Prematurely launched pages and pages that weren't fully fleshed out at the point of launching, are a big problem. Since these usually share several problems at once, this thread is aimed at re-running them through the TLP for fixing - the usual fix - or cutting them if they are too bad.
Problems this thread deals with include bad names, not enough/bad examples, unclear description, etc.
For the interested, here's a list of recently created pages
. Launches
Note: Please do not request a mod to unlaunch drafts that don't have any issues besides lacking a launch notice/24hr launch notice. While 24hr launch notices are mandatory, there are a few exceptions to the rule. If you see a draft's sponsor launch a TLP without an announcement, it's best to remind them of our TLP Guidelines first. If they continue to repeatedly launch drafts without a launch notice, you can report them on Ask The Tropers or the TLP Community Issues thread.
Edited by MacronNotes on Jun 24th 2023 at 12:24:55 PM
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Well, was it hollered?
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IDK until I just did that. Considering how quick the stealth/Rogue launches get unlaunched shortly after getting mentioned on this thread, was hoping the same treatment will be given. God, I'm a damn idiot.
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It's cool. I don't usually holler because I'm never really that concerned, sometimes the mods appear immediately but I never know if that's because someone else hollered for me or not.
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Royal Bastard Launch On 925 and Levitating a Lady have been unlaunched. Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
Easily Angered Beauty was stealth-launched with some pretty serious unaddressed concerns. And almost no examples. It also has more bombs than hats.
Edited by Eiryu on Sep 24th 2021 at 5:00:06 AM
Double.
Edited by Eiryu on Sep 24th 2021 at 4:58:06 AM
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Levitating a Lady has been launched. Although it was launched with an announcement, someone expressed a concern with the trope description not explaining the scope of the trope (making some of the comic book examples look like misuse), but the trope creator made the announcement to launch after that concern was expressed, and then launched without apparently addressing that concern at all.
Edited by Wyldchyld on Sep 25th 2021 at 11:58:16 AM
If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
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So Badass Bolas just launched, and it wasn't rogue or stealth, but I'm concerned because the most recent comment is me pointing out an issue I have with the tropes definition (that is, that the trope is "Bolas Exist"), which was never addressed.
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Will do. Paging masterrobert to this thread to discuss the launch of Levitating a Lady.
Plus, it's another "Badass X" trope at a time when "Badass X" tropes are being cleaned up, partially because of issues like this. It's also got some problematic language, such as "probably because it looks so spectacular in action", which implies that the actual reason for its narrative use has not been identified by this trope, merely assumed, meaning (as you say) the trope's purpose is suddenly in question. The Laconic backs up your concern by being literally "Characters using bolas as a weapon."
I also notice there's a throwaway line in the trope description saying that Knows the Ropes is the Western equivalent, which is instantly creating a trope relationship problem that the description doesn't attempt to solve: is Knows the Ropes a sub-trope or sister trope? Or is the description trying to claim that Bolas is a super-trope? I'm also not sure that designated split is entirely true. I've seen plenty of older Westerns back in the day, where bolas were sometimes given to any character that was, or was implied to be, either Hispanic or Native American. And, there, it's not about being "badass", it's about racist cultural stereotyping (implying that the users are inferior, uncouth or primitive).
Edited by Wyldchyld on Sep 26th 2021 at 10:13:50 AM
If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
Consider taking it to TRS.
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This thread is to avoid doing that to brand new drafts.
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
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Yeah, zero point in sending a brand new launch to TRS when it can just be unlaunched.
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I'm pretty sure All Just a Prank is stealth-launched.
Edited by Adept on Sep 27th 2021 at 8:30:01 PM
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Unlaunched Badass Bolas, paging ~foxley.
You didn't page ~Masterrobert correctly.
Unlaunched All Just a Prank, paging ~ratmother.
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It wasn't stealth launched, I had a 24 hour notice up.
I removed the launch notice from the title before posting.
Where I am right now it is the 27th, in case that has caused confusion
Edited by ratmother on Sep 27th 2021 at 11:52:57 PM
Will I need to relaunch it from the launch pad?
I put a 24 hour launch notice on it and then launched it 24 hours later.
We know. The issue is that you didn’t listen to last-minute concerns from Warjay.
A Diligent Index got stealthed. A real stealth, I confirmed the post history. The same sponsor also stealthed A Lazy Index, so I’m not sure they understand the rules.
Edited by Eiryu on Sep 27th 2021 at 10:12:59 AM
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Paging ~Tropers/{{313Bluestreak}}. That may not work because of their username.
Anyway, I'm not feeling all these indexes.
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Soft dewicked them, and added the laconic page of the Diligent Index to the cutlist.
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Thanks for the correction on the paging. One of these days, how to do it properly will sink into that soggy walnut I call my brain.
If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
Are any of the mods still up? I'm sorry if I sound impatient but Royal Bastard still hasn't been unlaunched and it's been stressing me out.
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