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TLP Crash Rescue - Fixing prematurely launched TLPs and pages

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Prematurely launched pages and pages that weren't fully fleshed out at the point of launching, are a big problem. Since these usually share several problems at once, this thread is aimed at re-running them through the TLP for fixing - the usual fix - or cutting them if they are too bad.

Problems this thread deals with include bad names, not enough/bad examples, unclear description, etc.

For the interested, here's a list of recently created pages. Launches

Note: Please do not request a mod to unlaunch drafts that don't have any issues besides lacking a launch notice/24hr launch notice. While 24hr launch notices are mandatory, there are a few exceptions to the rule. If you see a draft's sponsor launch a TLP without an announcement, it's best to remind them of our TLP Guidelines first. If they continue to repeatedly launch drafts without a launch notice, you can report them on Ask The Tropers or the TLP Community Issues thread.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jun 24th 2023 at 12:24:55 PM

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#8701: Aug 6th 2020 at 6:28:44 AM

[up]Seems it's too early to call for a TRS on that, unless there's a big evidence that Villain of the Detour is a dupe of Lone Wolf Boss.

ETA: Providing context as this one's a pagetopper.

Edited by alnair20aug93 on Aug 6th 2020 at 9:33:26 PM

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#8702: Aug 6th 2020 at 6:32:47 AM

We don't need TRS for any of those things. It's still super new. Everything can be solved if we just unlaunch it.

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Spark9 Since: Nov, 2010
#8703: Aug 6th 2020 at 6:52:10 AM

[up][up] There is, in fact, big evidence that these two are duplicates, yes.

4tell0life4 Since: Mar, 2018 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
#8704: Aug 6th 2020 at 7:47:10 AM

[up] Such as similar examples? Or just description writing?

If it's the latter, it's easier to talk about. We can make them stricter so that what counts as one won't count in the other.

Edited by 4tell0life4 on Aug 6th 2020 at 7:49:03 AM

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#8705: Aug 6th 2020 at 7:51:12 AM

Both.

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#8706: Aug 6th 2020 at 12:58:05 PM

So, address the sponsor of Villain of the Detour on this thread on why it's a dupe.


I do think Ghostfreak 45 rushed in launching the "Green Is Unnatural" page, which is now Supernatural Is Green, which sounds better in my opinion, but the problem is, they launched it immediately after my title suggestion without any further feedback.

Edited by alnair20aug93 on Aug 6th 2020 at 4:09:48 PM

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shadowmanwkp from The Netherlands Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#8707: Aug 7th 2020 at 5:14:12 AM

[up]

I already pinged ~Dream Scrape about Villain of the Detour when I first brought up the trope here, but it seems that they've not been active since the 1st of August. Ah well, I'll ping them again to be certain.

A quick refresher if I may summarize:


If I take a look at another trope they launched, Final Battle-Induced Shirt Loss, I do see the same thing happening: immediately launched after a week after it garnered 5 net hats (literally 5 hats 0 bombs), for a trope that's more specific compared to an existing one, Shirtless Scene. That page has some problems by mixing up Shirtless Scene and Walking Shirtless Scene in the description. There's also quite some ZCEs, and examples that are stated in the description as not qualifying for the trope.

For example:

Not to be confused with Battle Strip, where a character willingly removes their top.

Yet under Films - Live Action we have this:

Bruce Lee tends not to have a shirt for the final battle. Although it's usually by his own choice.

Mind you I do think we have a trope here, because I can think of some examples off the top of my head, but it seems that this trope was not touched up during the TLP, or after launch, because these issues have persisted for well over a year.

Edited by shadowmanwkp on Aug 7th 2020 at 2:16:08 PM

4tell0life4 Since: Mar, 2018 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
#8708: Aug 7th 2020 at 7:19:21 AM

I don't know if this fits this thread, but I'll ask:

I hope someone can adopt my TLP draft Personally Relating. I know I'm no longer around there anymore.

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#8709: Aug 7th 2020 at 11:48:53 AM

We can add it to the TLP Adoption Drive.

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4tell0life4 Since: Mar, 2018 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
#8710: Aug 7th 2020 at 5:22:01 PM

Can A Molten Date with Death count pools of molten metal?

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#8711: Aug 7th 2020 at 5:23:37 PM

[up] Yes.

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Theriocephalus Amateur Veteran from gimme a map and a moment and I can tell you Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
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#8712: Aug 8th 2020 at 10:01:43 AM

[up][up]I don't see why it shouldn't.

4tell0life4 Since: Mar, 2018 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
#8713: Aug 8th 2020 at 5:10:39 PM

I felt that Systematic Villain Takedown would overlap a lot with Villain of the Week.

What could differentiate them?

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Vilui Since: May, 2009
#8714: Aug 8th 2020 at 7:07:50 PM

A Monster of the Week is present for just one episode; victims of Systematic Villain Takedown are a recurring presence that are taken out one by one. In Sailor Moon, for example, the Monsters of the Week are the youma and the Systematic Villains are the Shitennou. There shouldn't be much, if any, overlap.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#8715: Aug 8th 2020 at 7:12:45 PM

Plus the Monster of the Week for one story doesn't necessarily have to be related to the Monster of the Week of the next, while the villains caught up in a Systematic Villain Takedown are all connected by being part of the Big Bad's group, if not a Big Bad Ensemble unto themselves.

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#8716: Aug 8th 2020 at 9:49:40 PM

The rest of the page looks fine to me, but Tanuki/Kitsune Contrast has the same source for the quote and the page image (sort of, the page is from a review show but it's clearly still Animal Crossing). Is this an issue?

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#8717: Aug 8th 2020 at 9:51:11 PM

It's generally something we try to avoid, but it's not against the rules or anything.

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Theriocephalus Amateur Veteran from gimme a map and a moment and I can tell you Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
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#8718: Aug 9th 2020 at 7:32:01 AM

Scary Sun Spider rogue launched by someone with minimal involvement in the discussion, while title was still in debate.

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#8720: Aug 9th 2020 at 8:33:29 AM

[up]Do not do that. Cutlisting an trope will discard the draft. Holler the mods to unlaunch it.

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#8722: Aug 11th 2020 at 4:02:23 AM

So, this has been ignored for two and a half years, but what should we do with Overly Long Hug? I had asked this question at the ATT, and added it's disclaimer as a rogue launched trope.

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#8723: Aug 11th 2020 at 6:15:56 AM

Err. 2 years is kinda too late to worry about a rogue launch.

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#8724: Aug 11th 2020 at 6:48:57 AM

Yes, and I have to resist being salty about it. My concern that it's low on wicks. I do think me soft dewicking it doesn't help its case due to its status as a rogue launched trope.

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#8725: Aug 11th 2020 at 10:33:02 AM

Probably a TRS candidate then if it's not thriving. Then maybe it can be sent back to TLP and properly launched.

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