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Prematurely launched pages and pages that weren't fully fleshed out at the point of launching, are a big problem. Since these usually share several problems at once, this thread is aimed at re-running them through the TLP for fixing - the usual fix - or cutting them if they are too bad.

Problems this thread deals with include bad names, not enough/bad examples, unclear description, etc.

For the interested, here's a list of recently created pages. Launches

Note: Please do not request a mod to unlaunch drafts that don't have any issues besides lacking a launch notice/24hr launch notice. While 24hr launch notices are mandatory, there are a few exceptions to the rule. If you see a draft's sponsor launch a TLP without an announcement, it's best to remind them of our TLP Guidelines first. If they continue to repeatedly launch drafts without a launch notice, you can report them on Ask The Tropers or the TLP Community Issues thread.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jun 24th 2023 at 12:24:55 PM

WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000)
#8351: May 28th 2020 at 1:47:53 PM

I had concerns over the meaning of the trope since it seemed any character who gave makeovers was this trope. Nobody else seemed to agree though.

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#8352: May 28th 2020 at 1:59:37 PM

My understanding was a character whose primary, if not sole, purpose was to provide the makeover.

Edited by sgamer82 on May 28th 2020 at 3:00:00 AM

wingedcatgirl mys. minty from the silly dimension from lurking (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
mys. minty from the silly dimension
#8353: May 28th 2020 at 5:00:40 PM

I'm also not enthused about its page image. Wild guess, is it also the trope namer?

Suddenly I'm... still rotating Fallen London in my mind even though I've stopped actively playing it.
WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000)
#8354: May 28th 2020 at 5:04:33 PM

Yes, yes it is.

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#8355: May 29th 2020 at 8:35:15 AM

Human Jack-O-Lantern was rogue launched as soon as it hit three days.

Multiple tropers expressed confusion about it being confused with Pumpkin Person, but that's neither here nor there since it was rogue launched by a rando. Please unlaunch.

[down] Yeah. I get the trope, but it's asking for misuse with that name.

Edited by Larkmarn on May 29th 2020 at 12:18:54 PM

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4tell0life4 Since: Mar, 2018 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
#8356: May 29th 2020 at 8:59:36 AM

[up] I can understand the trope at least, though perhaps calling it "Human Head Lantern" could be a bit clearer.

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Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
4tell0life4 Since: Mar, 2018 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
#8358: May 29th 2020 at 2:46:38 PM

So why is Ghastly Ghost a trope? Aren't ghost being scary/malicious the default, and thus the "twisted" portrayals (Friendly Ghost, Silly Spook etc) are tropes?

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Kappaclystica Since: Jan, 2019
#8359: May 29th 2020 at 3:20:32 PM

[up]No Trope Is Too Common. As long as it has some sort of meaning, a trope can be as omnipresent as it wants.

Edited by Kappaclystica on May 29th 2020 at 6:20:59 AM

WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000)
#8360: May 29th 2020 at 3:24:37 PM

The "Default"="Chairs" situation only applies if the default matches reality, making the trope Like Reality, Unless Noted if it has no other meaning.

This however is absolutely a trope, a very common one but still a trope.

TBH my biggest gripe with it is that a lot of the in-comments examples weren't added.

Edited by WarJay77 on May 29th 2020 at 6:25:14 AM

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Theriocephalus Amateur Veteran from gimme a map and a moment and I can tell you Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Amateur Veteran
#8361: May 29th 2020 at 9:01:04 PM

Divided Deity launched with no discussion and three net hats.

TBH my biggest gripe with it is that a lot of the in-comments examples weren't added.
That's always annoying, but fixed easily enough. I'm happy to handle that myself if nobody does it before I get around to it.

Edited by Theriocephalus on May 29th 2020 at 11:04:28 AM

Berrenta Bejeweled (she/her) (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Bejeweled (she/her)
#8362: May 29th 2020 at 10:09:08 PM

[up] Unlaunched. As it was launched by the sponsor, messaged.

WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000)
#8363: May 29th 2020 at 10:23:29 PM

[up][up] I might be a bit biased since my example specifically was overlooked for no reason, but I added it myself to the finished product. tongue

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WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000)
#8364: May 30th 2020 at 1:32:22 PM

Anyway, what are we doing with Dressed In Element?

Edited by WarJay77 on May 30th 2020 at 4:32:33 AM

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4tell0life4 Since: Mar, 2018 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
#8365: May 30th 2020 at 2:23:06 PM

I remembered having problems with The Voice of a Generation and it seems that the trope still has them now.

First off, the draft maker seems a bit too attached to the title that the examples aren't exactly voices of a "generation". How about calling it "Unofficial Spokesperson"?

Then I don't know how the examples actually fit. Some of them actively intends to speak for a group, some others have other people deeming the character as some group's "spokesperson".

Edited by 4tell0life4 on May 30th 2020 at 2:23:14 AM

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WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000)
#8366: May 30th 2020 at 8:16:46 PM

Old People Love Bingo Soon To Change was rogue launched without even removing the sponsor note in the title.

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#8367: May 30th 2020 at 8:19:13 PM

Rogue Launcher was Soul Sabre 117, who doesn't appear to have posted in the draft at all.

For a little while I remember Fighteer was asking people in Edit-Banned why they were doign that. Did we ever get a conclusive answer?

WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000)
#8368: May 30th 2020 at 8:20:09 PM

Besides people apparently lacking any sense of etiquette and wanting to contribute without reading the rules? Not really.

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Serac she/her (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
she/her
#8369: May 30th 2020 at 8:23:52 PM

One person saw the message that says "Enough Tropers and Wiki-Magic have deemed this YKTTW ready to Launch as a Trope." and thought launching would be a good idea (and that's pretty understandable), and another person thought something like "Wait, what? Why is the button visible to me if I haven't contributed to the draft? I wonder what will happen if I click it."

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#8370: May 30th 2020 at 8:31:46 PM

On the subject of etiquette, I was wondering, if we're reporting a rogue launcher, should we ping them to the thread here? I was considering doing that with SoulSabre but wasn't sure the thread actually wanted anyone to do that.

WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000)
#8371: May 30th 2020 at 8:33:35 PM

FWIW Sabre's only other TLP "contribution" thus far is this nuked stub draft. They...don't fully seem to grasp how the TLP works.

Pinging people here might be fine, but since they usually end up banned anyway over it there's not much we can say or do that the mods can't do in Edit Banned.

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WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000)
#8372: May 30th 2020 at 8:59:26 PM

Anyway, besides Spring Break Plot still needing a hold placed, I'm requesting a hold on The Good Unfavorite. Despite the overwhelming number of hats, most of the draft posters agree that the draft is not ready to launch if it's even tropeworthy at all. We need to curb a potential stealth/rogue launch so we can hammer out the actual trope and get it ready to go, or discarded for a fresh start.

Edited by WarJay77 on May 30th 2020 at 12:00:34 PM

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#8374: May 30th 2020 at 10:17:05 PM

The Rogue Launcher here was also ~Soul Sabre 117. I'll go ahead and ping them this time before a third launch happens.

WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000)
#8375: May 30th 2020 at 10:18:09 PM

It's...the same trope that was mentioned earlier. They only rogue launched one trope.

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