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TLP Crash Rescue - Fixing prematurely launched TLPs and pages

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Prematurely launched pages and pages that weren't fully fleshed out at the point of launching, are a big problem. Since these usually share several problems at once, this thread is aimed at re-running them through the TLP for fixing - the usual fix - or cutting them if they are too bad.

Problems this thread deals with include bad names, not enough/bad examples, unclear description, etc.

For the interested, here's a list of recently created pages. Launches

Note: Please do not request a mod to unlaunch drafts that don't have any issues besides lacking a launch notice/24hr launch notice. While 24hr launch notices are mandatory, there are a few exceptions to the rule. If you see a draft's sponsor launch a TLP without an announcement, it's best to remind them of our TLP Guidelines first. If they continue to repeatedly launch drafts without a launch notice, you can report them on Ask The Tropers or the TLP Community Issues thread.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jun 24th 2023 at 12:24:55 PM

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#8026: Apr 10th 2020 at 9:17:30 AM

Yow. Unlaunched and suspended.

Edited by Fighteer on Apr 10th 2020 at 12:17:39 PM

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000)
#8027: Apr 10th 2020 at 12:23:20 PM

Oof, prime example right there of why bombs need to do more than just sit there and look menacing.

Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper Wall
TheGreatConversation daughter of bilitis from Typhon Since: Apr, 2017 Relationship Status: Hounds of love are hunting
daughter of bilitis
#8028: Apr 11th 2020 at 3:36:10 PM

Can I get an unlaunch for Dumbwaiter Ridelaunchingtonight? Completely my bad.

Edited by TheGreatConversation on Apr 11th 2020 at 6:36:20 AM

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nombretomado (Season 1) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
TheGreatConversation daughter of bilitis from Typhon Since: Apr, 2017 Relationship Status: Hounds of love are hunting
daughter of bilitis
#8030: Apr 11th 2020 at 3:38:40 PM

[up]Thanks.

kissed by aliens
Erin582 Everything is Everything from I live among the creatures of the night Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Everything is Everything
#8031: Apr 12th 2020 at 12:32:26 AM

Hello. I currently have two potential tropes that are sitting in the Launch Pad (Elder Employee and Grandparent Favoritism). I was hoping to launch the latter any day now and the former somewhere down the line. Is there something more that I should do before I go ahead and do that (like wait for more hats, although both have more than five)?

Are you adding to the discussion on this site, or just taking away from someone else's contributions?
WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000)
#8032: Apr 12th 2020 at 12:50:17 AM

I think both of your drafts are lookin' good, and would not be opposed to a launch of either of them.

Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper Wall
Erin582 Everything is Everything from I live among the creatures of the night Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Everything is Everything
#8033: Apr 12th 2020 at 12:54:34 AM

Thank you! smile

Edited by Erin582 on Apr 12th 2020 at 12:54:49 PM

Are you adding to the discussion on this site, or just taking away from someone else's contributions?
4tell0life4 Since: Mar, 2018 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
#8034: Apr 12th 2020 at 5:30:36 AM

I wonder why we need a page for Kabbalic Golem when we already have Golem.

Not just that, the latter's page got completely overhauled (see the page history)

Edited by 4tell0life4 on Apr 12th 2020 at 5:32:43 AM

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valar55 Since: Aug, 2012
#8035: Apr 12th 2020 at 5:45:39 AM

Hmm... an explanation for most of that would seem to be in the TLP discussion? [https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/discussion.php?id=2slya2xvaj1jmw09xn24uwdy]

Serac she/her (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
she/her
#8036: Apr 12th 2020 at 7:22:56 AM

It looks to me like Golem was remade into a supertrope for all kinds of beings made of rock, iron, etc. and animated with magic, while Kabbalic Golem is specifically for golems inspired by the Jewish depiction of them.

Did this go through TRS? Does a Trope Transplant and supertrope creation like this need to go through TRS?

Edited by Serac on Apr 12th 2020 at 9:23:32 AM

Miss_Desperado https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YD2i1FzUYA from somewhere getting rained on by Puget Sound Since: Sep, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#8037: Apr 12th 2020 at 8:43:31 AM

Alice Macher's comment of "Please correct the title. It should be 'Kabbalistic,' not 'Kabalic.'" went unaddressed before launch.

If not for this anchor I'd be dancing between the stars. At least I can try to write better vampire stories than Twilight.
ShinyCottonCandy Everyone's friend Malamar from Lumiose City (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Everyone's friend Malamar
#8038: Apr 13th 2020 at 3:19:03 PM

Representation Backlash YMMV was rogue launched with 2 net hats.

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XFllo There is no Planet B from Planet A Since: Aug, 2012
There is no Planet B
#8039: Apr 13th 2020 at 4:08:58 PM

[up] Yup. I came here to report that as well. It was not launched by the sponsor and the YMMV-trope's issues have not been resolved. It's also launched with the YMMV tag which is only a part of working title.

BTW, Dumbwaiter Ridelaunchingtonight has not been unlaunched yet.

4tell0life4 Since: Mar, 2018 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
#8040: Apr 13th 2020 at 4:17:07 PM

[up] Dumbwaiter Ride exists already, so that one can be cut

And I think Kabbalic Golem should be "Kabbalistic Golem"? Not to mention whether it was okay to change Golem's description like that.

We can never truly eradicate the coronavirus, but we can suppress its threat like influenza
nombretomado (Season 1) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#8043: Apr 13th 2020 at 9:19:01 PM

Looks like Recurring Fanon Character and Ambiguous Religions were put Up For Grabs and promptly rogue-launched. The latter isn't even formatted properly.

~Shelton TV Tropes, don't do this please.

Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#8044: Apr 13th 2020 at 11:46:20 PM

Oh goddamnit, again?

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WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000)
#8045: Apr 14th 2020 at 12:51:44 AM

We need to make it clear that "Up For Grabs" is not synonymous with "Launch now, even if you didn't participate".

Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper Wall
Berrenta Bejeweled (she/her) (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Bejeweled (she/her)
#8046: Apr 14th 2020 at 4:11:32 AM

Unlaunched and suspended.

Dacool1here Since: Oct, 2017
Miss_Desperado https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YD2i1FzUYA from somewhere getting rained on by Puget Sound Since: Sep, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#8048: Apr 14th 2020 at 9:05:00 AM

You're definitely not the only one who's made that mistake. I corresponded with the launcher of Fright Beside Them (which STILL hasn't been unlaunched) and they said they weren't aware that they had to announce that they a) adopted the draft and b) were about to launch the draft. I directed them to read Administrivia.TLP Guidelines, which was recently updated by the Outdated Pages thread.

Edited by Miss_Desperado on Apr 14th 2020 at 9:05:35 AM

If not for this anchor I'd be dancing between the stars. At least I can try to write better vampire stories than Twilight.
XFllo There is no Planet B from Planet A Since: Aug, 2012
There is no Planet B
#8049: Apr 14th 2020 at 9:13:50 AM

Personally, I blame the note that displays automatically after 5 hats. It says the following:

Enough Tropers and Wiki-Magic have deemed this YKTTW ready to Launch as a Trope.

I am convinced it should be changed to something else, something that makes clear that a trope can't be launched by just any random troper who feels like smashing the launch button. If I were a newbie, I would probably be confused as well.

The note should be clear that only an official sponsor who has been shepherding the draft can launch it.

Enough Tropers and Wiki-Magic have deemed this draft ready to Launch as a Trope. Its TLP Sponsor may launch it soon.

It still doesn't solve the problem of net hats and net bombs and proper consensus because the note appears after 5 hats, no matter with how many bombs, too. But it could be a start.

Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#8050: Apr 14th 2020 at 9:18:05 AM

I'm curious as to how the "up for grabs" = "launchworthy" misconception came around in the first place. It may not have always been spelled out on TLP guidelines, but it's not like the site has ever said this was correct. Is there a way to get the new TLP guidelines page out to everyone?

[up]I agree; I believe the 5-hats message is misleading because it assumes people have been using hats and bombs correctly. The addition of a "TLP sponsor" might help curb rogue-launching.

Edited by Synchronicity on Apr 14th 2020 at 11:18:42 AM


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