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Prematurely launched pages, pages that weren't fully fleshed out at the point of launching, are a big problem. Since these usually share several problems at once, this thread is aimed at re-running them through YKTTW for fixing - the usual fix - or cutting them if they are too bad.

Problems this thread deals with include bad names, not enough/bad examples, unclear description, no crosswicking etc.

For the interested, here's a list of recently created pages. Launches

edited 8th Aug '17 10:10:12 AM by SeptimusHeap

4tell0life4 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
Feb 6th 2020 at 6:47:07 PM

Seriously, the only way you can get "asked for responsibility" for hitting someone is when at least a third party witnessed it.

If there's anything that separates it from Bystander Syndrome, I'm not seeing it.

Oh, and just in case, such a thing is not as unrealistic as the description's trying to make it, either

I'm never an adult
Larkmarn Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
Feb 8th 2020 at 4:04:35 PM

Neutrals, Critters, and Creeps was launched with a net 5 hats but no discussion or announcement for several days.

Something about it just feels... Off, I can't quite put my finger on it. Well, other than the fact the name is obtuse to me. And the fact that I'm not a fan of how the description goes so long into 4X for some reason.

Larkmarn Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
Feb 12th 2020 at 6:22:05 PM

Roku Alhazared has been making a new Self Demonstrating character page a day for a bit. None of them really seem like they have any kind of distinct voice.

... Sure would like that namespace to be locked like Main/ is.

Edited by Larkmarn on Feb 12th 2020 at 9:23:15 AM

4tell0life4 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
Feb 12th 2020 at 6:26:07 PM

[up] why though?

I'm never an adult
WarJay77 Wash your hands, be safe from Upstate New York Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Wash your hands, be safe
Feb 12th 2020 at 7:21:09 PM

The (admittedly ready-to-launch) Thin-Skinned Bully was rogue launched.

Tropes Needing TRS - Currently writing a fanfic for a dead fandom. If you're at all interested, then yay!
Larkmarn Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
Feb 12th 2020 at 7:21:52 PM

Because people make bad self demonstrating pages all the time and there's no viable means to keep up with them.

4tell0life4 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
Feb 12th 2020 at 9:14:26 PM

[up] One of those Sturgeon things, I guess?

I'm never an adult
Larkmarn Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
Feb 13th 2020 at 10:29:51 AM

Yes, but even moreso because some of them are simply impossible to have an effective SD for many characters that plain don't have a distinctive voice.

So it's "90% are bad, and of the 10% that are decently done, many of them are still fundamentally flawed because they don't work."

4tell0life4 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
Feb 13th 2020 at 3:14:19 PM

Or maybe most of us just cringe at internet roleplaying. :P

I still believe, though, that self-demonstrating trope pages are OK.

I'm never an adult
Dghcrh Perfect Stranger from Small country that looks like a fish Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Perfect Stranger
Feb 14th 2020 at 9:56:49 AM

Thought They Knew Already was launched without incorporating the last few examples from the comment section.

Edited by Dghcrh on Feb 14th 2020 at 8:51:51 PM

That moment when Peeves randomly pops out of chests
gc10 Human Individual from Earth for sure Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
Human Individual
Feb 14th 2020 at 10:44:51 AM

Casual Assault And Battery is still up, but the OP was just permabanned after his third suspension.

About the trope, the very first sentence: "In the real world, if an altercation ends with you throwing a punch, there's a good chance you're going to have charges pressed against you."

Uhm... wrong? How many times did we witness physical fights that didn't result in legal consequences?

My suggestion would be at least to unlaunch it right now, since is fresh and has barely 3 wicks, then we'll see in the TLP if there's a way to rework it (I can't see it tbh, but that's not the problem now). Anyone against requesting an unlaunch?

Do not want
WarJay77 Wash your hands, be safe from Upstate New York Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Wash your hands, be safe
Feb 14th 2020 at 10:55:35 AM

[up] I want an unlaunch too; the description needs a lot of work, and there are plenty of arguments people are making against the trope itself.

Tropes Needing TRS - Currently writing a fanfic for a dead fandom. If you're at all interested, then yay!
Feb 14th 2020 at 11:23:35 AM

[up][up] Semi-related ATT thread: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/query.php?parent_id=84821&type=att Agree that the description needs to be worked out.

Larkmarn Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
Feb 19th 2020 at 8:39:23 AM

Bumping my last post about the rash of new SD pages.

I also brought it up in the SD cleanup thread, but that thread is so dead it makes this one look like a damn circus.

WarJay77 Wash your hands, be safe from Upstate New York Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Wash your hands, be safe
Feb 19th 2020 at 12:33:52 PM

[up] I mean, at this point, you probably want to go to ATT about the troper making these pages. The blanket ban is too big an idea to discuss here.

Tropes Needing TRS - Currently writing a fanfic for a dead fandom. If you're at all interested, then yay!
bitemytail from Arizona Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Feb 20th 2020 at 6:41:40 AM

Absurdly Short Level was launched by its sponsor, but the draft has been idle for over a month and only has a net 3 hats (5 hats, 2 bombs).

Edited by bitemytail on Feb 20th 2020 at 7:41:56 AM

Health sure is versatile. It's possible to be both light-headed and dim-witted. At the same time, no less.
WarJay77 Wash your hands, be safe from Upstate New York Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Wash your hands, be safe
Feb 21st 2020 at 7:17:20 PM

Dismissive Kick launched with only 4 net hats.

Tropes Needing TRS - Currently writing a fanfic for a dead fandom. If you're at all interested, then yay!
Feb 22nd 2020 at 1:27:05 AM

The Ranch has a good description but only ZCE for tropes. It's recent, so let's hope it'll improve. Creator messaged.

Agent2583 Secret Agent2583 from [CLASSIFIED] Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Secret Agent2583
Feb 23rd 2020 at 2:01:44 PM

Friendly Furry Monster appears to have been Rogue Launched, as there are still some Zero-Context Example notes

Edited by Agent2583 on Feb 23rd 2020 at 10:01:56 AM

WarJay77 Wash your hands, be safe from Upstate New York Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Wash your hands, be safe
Feb 23rd 2020 at 2:21:09 PM

^ Actually, the launcher was the OP...but the draft hasn't been touched in ages, still has a ton of ZCEs, and... for some dumb reason has 6 hats.

Ah, TLP. I'll never understand you.

Tropes Needing TRS - Currently writing a fanfic for a dead fandom. If you're at all interested, then yay!
WarJay77 Wash your hands, be safe from Upstate New York Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Wash your hands, be safe
Feb 23rd 2020 at 3:19:54 PM

Okay, the launcher, ~Bennell has gone onto delete the ZCE markup without actually fixing the bad examples.

Tropes Needing TRS - Currently writing a fanfic for a dead fandom. If you're at all interested, then yay!
Theriocephalus Beast Man from gimme a map and a moment and I can tell you Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Feb 23rd 2020 at 4:52:43 PM

Benell also just rouge launched Water Horses, despite taking no part in its discussion and changing its title from its previous one (Hippocamps and White Seahorses) also without comment.

WarJay77 Wash your hands, be safe from Upstate New York Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Wash your hands, be safe
Feb 23rd 2020 at 4:53:32 PM

What really burns me is that on ATT I linked them to TLP Guidelines.

Tropes Needing TRS - Currently writing a fanfic for a dead fandom. If you're at all interested, then yay!
Fighteer Geronimo! from the Time Vortex Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
alnair20aug93 Moo. from Furrypines Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Moo.
Feb 24th 2020 at 4:56:16 AM

I have dewicked the unlaunched tropes.

I couldn't find the draft link for "Friendly Furry Monster". Even at the search bar, I couldn't find a link. Is there a link to it?

Edited by alnair20aug93 on Feb 24th 2020 at 8:56:41 PM

No more "this troper".

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