Prematurely launched pages and pages that weren't fully fleshed out at the point of launching, are a big problem. Since these usually share several problems at once, this thread is aimed at re-running them through the TLP for fixing - the usual fix - or cutting them if they are too bad.
Problems this thread deals with include bad names, not enough/bad examples, unclear description, etc.
For the interested, here's a list of recently created pages
. Launches
Note: Please do not request a mod to unlaunch drafts that don't have any issues besides lacking a launch notice/24hr launch notice. While 24hr launch notices are mandatory, there are a few exceptions to the rule. If you see a draft's sponsor launch a TLP without an announcement, it's best to remind them of our TLP Guidelines first. If they continue to repeatedly launch drafts without a launch notice, you can report them on Ask The Tropers or the TLP Community Issues
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Edited by MacronNotes on Jun 24th 2023 at 12:24:55 PM
Right, you can't discard something without consensus. Join the discussion, don't just rogue-discard the damn thing.
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- Anything less than 6 is Starvation.
Maybe put a hold on this draft until a consensus is reached one way or the other?
Suddenly I'm... still rotating Fallen London in my mind even though I've stopped actively playing it.Nurse Hitomi's Monster Infirmary is a stub that needs tropes added; by ~The Lovely Vocal.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman~Merseyuser 1 has made not one, but two different stubby, unindexed work pages in the past few hours. I felt it should be acknowledged here.
Edited by WarJay77 on Dec 30th 2019 at 3:33:44 PM
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You should probably use Sandbox pages then, as launching two articles hours apart from each other with both of them blatantly unfinished is a poor practice.
That said, I figured you were working on them, but I mentioned it here just to get a dialogue going.
Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper WallThat's really slow, though... which is, again, why I think you should use a sandbox instead and then make the official pages.
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Fair enough. However, Literature.Olga Da Polga is slightly improved, and an image was added, plus it's now indexed, so it's got some improvement, but it needs a bit more care to make it a good article. Its obscurity contributes to needing updates.
I've been thinking, since I have a limited capacity on this wiki due to a typhoon cutting off the power last week (luckily the phone signal came back two days after), I am asking for my draft for The New Twenties
to have its hold lifted an hour before the New Year, specifically at Pacific Standard Time (for the launch date to go in sync the site server), and the draft to be launched by anyone who has contributed to the draft just in case.
Otherwise, I shall launch it, but you guys need to wick it and add the remaining examples from the comment section to the launched page on my behalf due to the limitations I'm having.
Please and thank you.
Edited by alnair20aug93 on Dec 31st 2019 at 1:51:11 AM
ᜇᜎᜈ᜔ᜇᜈ᜔|I DO COMMISSIONS|ᜇᜎᜈ᜔ᜇᜈ᜔Films of the 2020s and Western Animation of the 2020s have been launched without the necessary hats-discards>=5, and Khugol has told me in a PM that he'd rather launch the films page himself, which I've noted in the comments. Should they be unlaunched? I'll tell NTC3 to avoid this in the future, please don't suspend as this was a genuine mistake, which I am part of as I didn't warn him early enough (I didn't know that Russia has time earlier), but I have explained to him now.
Edited by Piterpicher on Dec 31st 2019 at 12:31:14 PM
Currently mostly inactive. An incremental game I tested: https://galaxy.click/play/176 (Gods of Incremental)Preemptively bringing up Protagonist No. XIII
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Given past tropes such as Heroic Albino being "character trait + being the protagonist" being deemed not tropeworthy, I really don't think "character is associated with the number 13, and at some point has some intersection with protagonism" is viable. The sponsor seems pretty gung ho and the phrase "teeeechnically a TLP only requires a minimum of three examples" just worries me.
I'd like other critical eyes to take a gander and see if I'm imagining things.
Found a Youtube Channel with political stances you want to share? Hop on over to this page and add them.
Lark is just asking for more opinions, not for the draft to be immediately discarded...
This thread has been used for this purpose before...
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That seems pretty backwards, as ATT is where I would go to actually report something since mods frequent it more often and this thread is usually occupied by tropers more familiar with the pros and cons of the TLP and TRS process whose opinions I'm trying to solicit.
Edited by Larkmarn on Jan 3rd 2020 at 3:25:47 PM
Found a Youtube Channel with political stances you want to share? Hop on over to this page and add them.
You can do it either way, but most people would use ATT to discuss drafts and this place to discuss launched pages. You can do either, though.
I still think you brought that up prematurely, yet I acknowledge that problems with that draft and regret throwing a hat.
Edited by EarthboundFan on Jan 3rd 2020 at 12:35:13 PM
During Good Colours, Evil Colours wick cleaning (yes, the British redirect specifically today), I discovered Literature.The Kostek War. Now, it's not a great page, and it's not even indexed, but what really stands out to me is that it's a work made by a troper, and I can't find any evidence of it being published. We're gonna have to move it to Unpublished.
Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper WallThe X World Of Y has been launched, retaining even the Up for Grabs message at the top.
Edited by EarthboundFan on Jan 5th 2020 at 6:56:06 AM
Well, it's okay to launch a trope with a TLP Note as long as you remove it immediately. I do that all the time. That said, the launch has been done by Mister Snuffy, who didn't participate in any discussion.
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^^ Some points:
1. A trope needs three examples to be considered for launch. This trope has at least 15, so the idea that it doesn't have "enough" examples is patently absurd.
2. The whole "Discount Lesbians/Bizarre Alien Sexes" issue was addressed in the discussion, and in any case, you tried to delete the draft when these were still actively being discussed.
3. If the fact that there isn't a Useful Notes page for nonbinary gender bothers you, then you're perfectly free to make one, or at least bring up the issue in the discussion. But you made no effort to do either. That doesn't instill a great deal of confidence that this was really that much of an issue for you.
4. So, you deleted the draft because "in your opinion," the person who wrote the draft was trying to capitalize on "current events and societal changes". Well, that's pretty much a direct contradiction of your claim that your attempts to delete the draft weren't due to "personal beliefs." The idea of nonbinary gender isn't new, nor is its use in fiction. Just because gender issues have become a hot topic in society is really irrelevant to the fact that this trope exists.
So what I'm seeing in your (very poorly written) post is a whole bunch of excuses, and not a solid reason amongst them.