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TLP Crash Rescue - Fixing prematurely launched TLPs and pages

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Prematurely launched pages and pages that weren't fully fleshed out at the point of launching, are a big problem. Since these usually share several problems at once, this thread is aimed at re-running them through the TLP for fixing - the usual fix - or cutting them if they are too bad.

Problems this thread deals with include bad names, not enough/bad examples, unclear description, etc.

For the interested, here's a list of recently created pages. Launches

Note: Please do not request a mod to unlaunch drafts that don't have any issues besides lacking a launch notice/24hr launch notice. While 24hr launch notices are mandatory, there are a few exceptions to the rule. If you see a draft's sponsor launch a TLP without an announcement, it's best to remind them of our TLP Guidelines first. If they continue to repeatedly launch drafts without a launch notice, you can report them on Ask The Tropers or the TLP Community Issues thread.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jun 24th 2023 at 12:24:55 PM

Berrenta Bejeweled (she/her) (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Bejeweled (she/her)
#7551: Nov 30th 2019 at 6:54:11 PM

Re: Celebrity:

Looks like someone replaced their bomb with a hat, as the hat:bomb ratio is now 9:3, making it legal.

However, it doesn't look like anyone discussed launching. So, thoughts? Keep or send back?

Edited by Berrenta on Nov 30th 2019 at 8:58:16 AM

XFllo There is no Planet B from Planet A Since: Aug, 2012
There is no Planet B
#7552: Dec 1st 2019 at 4:53:14 AM

[up] I really dislike stealth launches, so I'm for un-launching (I know I already said so).

I think it's counterintuitive that the number of bombs and hats can be changed after launch.


Is there anything that can (or should) be done about Evil Nephew (re: the fact that there is still an active TLP draft for it)?

XFllo There is no Planet B from Planet A Since: Aug, 2012
There is no Planet B
#7553: Dec 1st 2019 at 5:00:41 AM

And re: Kishōtenketsu — any word on this? Larkmarn is correct — absolutely no discussion and the name could be clearer. Those five hats are there but it's kind of suspicious... With 3 examples and 9 wicks, it's really under-wicked, too.

Pichu-kun ... Since: Jan, 2001
Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#7555: Dec 3rd 2019 at 6:24:28 AM

And it's over 6 years old. Wow.

Now that's what I call not thriving.

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#7556: Dec 3rd 2019 at 6:48:53 AM

I could think of a couple examples to add, at least, but would it be too little, too late at this point?

XFllo There is no Planet B from Planet A Since: Aug, 2012
There is no Planet B
#7557: Dec 3rd 2019 at 7:37:21 AM

[up] It's recommended (I think) to run these under-wicked, almost-example-less tropes through TLP and collect examples there. It can be done without unlaunching. If it fails to do so, then it's probably cutting time...

WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
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#7558: Dec 3rd 2019 at 11:23:59 AM

Well, it has 20 wicks, so those examples could be transferred to the draft itself.

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4tell0life4 Since: Mar, 2018 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
#7559: Dec 4th 2019 at 7:08:43 AM

Nobody responded to this, so I'll put it again: the issue of Comic Book Continuation when we already have Sequel in Another Medium.

I personally think the former is just The Same But More Specific.

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LordGro (Old as dirt)
#7560: Dec 5th 2019 at 10:10:48 AM

I suggest to unlauch Sea Serpents in order to re-launch it as Sea Serpent. No real reason why the name should be in plural.

wingedcatgirl mys. minty from the silly dimension from lurking (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
mys. minty from the silly dimension
#7561: Dec 5th 2019 at 3:53:32 PM

No real reason why the name should be singular, either. One can type {{Sea Serpent|s}} without trouble if one needs the singular form.

Suddenly I'm... still rotating Fallen London in my mind even though I've stopped actively playing it.
LordGro (Old as dirt)
#7562: Dec 6th 2019 at 8:08:31 AM

Well one can type {{Sea Serpent}}s without trouble as well if the plural form is needed.

It's the much more logical way, too. And editors will need the singular form more often than the plural form.

Tabs Since: Jan, 2001
#7563: Dec 6th 2019 at 8:36:55 AM

We have Fauns and Satyrs but Basilisk and Cockatrice, Catlike Dragons but Feathered Serpent, Pegasus, Mummy, Unicorn, Dhampyr...

Renaming Sea Serpents to Sea Serpent would at least be in line with the supertrope Sea Monster and its sister tropes.

wingedcatgirl mys. minty from the silly dimension from lurking (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
mys. minty from the silly dimension
#7564: Dec 6th 2019 at 6:49:24 PM

Like I said — it's arbitrary. There's no compelling reason to pick one over the other.

Suddenly I'm... still rotating Fallen London in my mind even though I've stopped actively playing it.
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#7565: Dec 9th 2019 at 12:33:07 AM

We could make it less arbitrary to make it uniform at least. Sea Serpents wouldn't work if a particular work consists of only one sea serpent. Even a hydra with multiple heads is considered a singular form compared to hydras. Plus it's easier formatting.

I.e. {{SeaSerpent|s}} vs [[SeaSerpent]]s

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Malady (X-Troper)
#7566: Dec 9th 2019 at 1:41:01 AM

[up] - Singular, and it'd still be {{Sea Serpent}}s

Curlies for all word mods.

Edited by Malady on Dec 9th 2019 at 1:41:26 AM

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#7567: Dec 9th 2019 at 6:55:49 AM

Frightening Power Usage was quietly launched and... I kind of have an issue with the fact that, uh, the description doesn't actually define the trope. Like at all.

Token Immortal was quietly launched with no fanfare and honestly I don't think it's a trope past "this work has an immortal, but not every single character is immortal."

Edited by Larkmarn on Dec 9th 2019 at 11:35:29 AM

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#7568: Dec 9th 2019 at 10:04:21 AM

[up] [tup] to both.

WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
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#7569: Dec 9th 2019 at 11:24:43 AM

I think Token Immortal could work...if they'd fleshed out the description like I'd asked.

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4tell0life4 Since: Mar, 2018 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
#7570: Dec 9th 2019 at 2:36:27 PM

[up][up][up] Both are good tropes but in need of fleshed out description.

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Miss_Desperado https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YD2i1FzUYA from somewhere getting rained on by Puget Sound Since: Sep, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#7571: Dec 9th 2019 at 6:55:33 PM

Reflexive Remark of Reverence was previously unlaunched and mod-holded by this thread for being rogue launched and ban-evade launched. It looks ready to go to me, it has seventeen hats and one bomb, but I'm the only one saying "just launch it already" in the comments. Is it time to remove the mod hold and launch it yet, or should it cook on TLP some more?

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Berrenta Bejeweled (she/her) (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Bejeweled (she/her)
#7572: Dec 9th 2019 at 8:24:09 PM

If you're going to claim it, I'll remove the hold.

WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
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#7573: Dec 10th 2019 at 10:47:06 PM

Napoleon_Blownapart rogue launched Sneeze Interruption and Monster Mouth.

Edited by WarJay77 on Dec 10th 2019 at 1:56:44 PM

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#7574: Dec 10th 2019 at 11:28:59 PM

^ De-wicked the wicks for preventive measures.

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It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000)
#7575: Dec 11th 2019 at 9:36:04 PM

Bump?

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