Prematurely launched pages and pages that weren't fully fleshed out at the point of launching, are a big problem. Since these usually share several problems at once, this thread is aimed at re-running them through the TLP for fixing - the usual fix - or cutting them if they are too bad.
Problems this thread deals with include bad names, not enough/bad examples, unclear description, etc.
For the interested, here's a list of recently created pages
. Launches
Note: Please do not request a mod to unlaunch drafts that don't have any issues besides lacking a launch notice/24hr launch notice. While 24hr launch notices are mandatory, there are a few exceptions to the rule. If you see a draft's sponsor launch a TLP without an announcement, it's best to remind them of our TLP Guidelines first. If they continue to repeatedly launch drafts without a launch notice, you can report them on Ask The Tropers or the TLP Community Issues thread.
Edited by MacronNotes on Jun 24th 2023 at 12:24:55 PM
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Disappearing Bullets, launched two years ago with incorrect formatting corrected only today, has accumulated a total 23 edits, most by the launcher, and 7 wicks.
I feel I should run this by the thread and make sure it's even its own thing.
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Blapper of Water
I'm on mobile so I can't do much but the "its ready" ought to be "it's ready."
Look at all that shiny stuff ain't they pretty
Bonnie's Artistic Cousin
Might it be helpful to also mention in the guidelines that a TLP should not be launched until all discussion has come to a conclusion? Even if it has five net hats, that doesn't mean it's launchworthy, and we've had a lot of cases of someone launching a trope when there were still things to discuss on the launchpad.
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Anachronistic Orphanage is still up... Apparently some examples are just "Orphanage Exists"...
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While "traditional orphanage in a modern-day setting" could be a tropable concept, quite a few of the examples on that page are just "an orphanage exists," which is just People Sit on Chairs. I'd say send it back to TLP.
It doesn't even describe elements of the orphanage that make it anachronistic. I'd say send it back, but I don't have high hopes.
Bonnie's Artistic Cousin
Send it back.
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The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
Scary Squid is still up. Can we send it back to TLP already?
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Naive Navigation Works was quietly launched with no fanfare. Seven hats, but it's three years old. You could make a blank YKTTW and in three years it'll get seven hats.
The name's garbage, the description is meandering at best (I don't think it ever actually describes what the trope is, just says one thing it's not and gives some examples) and the examples are... ehhhhhh (probably due to said poor description).
Found a Youtube Channel with political stances you want to share? Hop on over to this page and add them.
Lost in Space
Unlaunched both of those.
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What about Anachronistic Orphanage?
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Lost in Space
I don't see it on the launch list...
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It was launched more than a month ago. It's on the second page.
Lost in Space
So, Disappearing Bullets. Low wick count, low example count, two years old. ... Still undecided...
Currently on page 34...
Also on that page are weird blank entries from IP addresses, like 207.241.229.110.
Edited by Malady on Oct 9th 2018 at 9:41:58 AM
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The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
Great. Now if only we could purge the hats and bombs on it (13:3), we could at least prevent/delay any further rogue launches.
Blapper of Water
Someone recently made Jake Paul (and Logan Paul) and on the page for Jake, they made YMMV.Jake Paul where the only entry is Overshadowed by Controversy concerning his life. It just seems like an "on the line" example, so I'd rather discuss it with others.
These are new pages, though, and I think it's notable that the troper (Zekrom 350) made them as stubs and added a "Needs Wiki Magic Love" in the first edit. Like, is this person not going to do the work or, like, what. I'm sure there's enough to trope here, but it might be a better idea to start this sort of thing off in TLP to write up a description and collect examples.
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Lost in Space
It's illustrative that the main purpose seems to be to discuss the controversy around them. It means they aren't notable otherwise. I vote cut.
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Blapper of Water
Honestly, I only noticed because I was considering making a page for Jake Paul but someone made the page a few days ago. It's difficult to differentiate between creators and their public personas when we're talking about vloggers, but it is possible. (In case anyone's wondering "Why now", see Shane Dawson's docu-series on Jake Paul.)
But I do agree with cutting the YMMV/ page as there's only one entry and that entry is about the controversy surrounding the creator himself rather than any of his work.
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Lost in Space
If a creator has one, singular work, which is their own work and not something they're being paid for, like an actor that appears in one show, then having a creator page for them and a work page is completely redundant.
It's basically an excuse to trope the person, which is something we don't permit. To throw up another example, we have Tobuscus, and that's it. We don't need a creator page for Toby Turner as well, since his public identity is completely bound up with his YouTube channels. (Well, to be fair, he does have a few film and TV appearances, so maybe it's not a perfect case.)
Edited by Fighteer on Oct 10th 2018 at 4:16:22 AM
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Blapper of Water
I'm not really all that familiar with Jake Paul's work, but as I understand it, there's vlogging, Team 10 stuff, and some music content. I'd expect a WebVideo/ page to be more appropriate than a Creator/ one. I was going to take it through TLP to get feedback and such.
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Lost in Space
I rather agree, there. I'm not sure why Tobuscus was ultimately put in Creator rather than Web Video.
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Modified text in the launching section of TLP Guidelines to the following: