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Prematurely launched pages, pages that weren't fully fleshed out at the point of launching, are a big problem. Since these usually share several problems at once, this thread is aimed at re-running them through YKTTW for fixing - the usual fix - or cutting them if they are too bad.

Problems this thread deals with include bad names, not enough/bad examples, unclear description, no crosswicking etc.

For the interested, here's a list of recently created pages. Launches

edited 8th Aug '17 10:10:12 AM by SeptimusHeap

alnair20aug93 hablar dias, spa, asiento, dedo del pie en inglé from Furryppines Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
hablar dias, spa, asiento, dedo del pie en inglé
Aug 24th 2017 at 5:31:17 AM

Somebody named Indiana Park Wars launched Deadly Book without removing the [Launching Within One Day].

edited 24th Aug '17 6:04:31 AM by alnair20aug93

That's all there is. There isn't anymore. "YOWZA!!!"
Aug 24th 2017 at 6:40:41 AM

A quick look at TabletopGame.Fantasy Girl Group Campaign doesn't suggest that it is a tabletop game, it is full of ZC Es and a few other problems

Larkmarn Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
Aug 24th 2017 at 7:59:15 AM

Furry Lens got launched at 5 hats in only 7 days with no warning or fanfare.

Aside from the decidedly inscrutable name, I agree with every criticism in the YKTTW, which, while they were technically addressed, were essentially brushed off.

[up] Pretty sure it's someone troping their own D&D campaign, which seems like something we wouldn't have here. I messaged them about stub and Zero Context. Hopefully they'll de-stub it a bit and we can figure out if it's something we'd trope.

Out of curiosity, if there is a documented D&D campaign, what namespace would we put that under?

edited 24th Aug '17 8:03:08 AM by Larkmarn

SeptimusHeap from Southern Italy Relationship Status: Mu
Carliro My Patreon from My Patreon Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
My Patreon
Aug 24th 2017 at 8:26:22 AM

"Brushed off"? I addressed the criticisms, with few counter-arguments so far.

My Patreon. It is my life.
Larkmarn Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
Aug 24th 2017 at 8:32:27 AM

I mean, how is "I think so" not a brush off? Especially since the criticism (that there's not enough examples to split it off from another trope, making it The Same But More Specific) isn't actually addressed and the small number of examples doesn't exactly lend itself to being a self-explanatory answer.

I'm not saying you did anything wrong, it's more a critique on the TLP system and the ease that tropes can get launched.

edited 24th Aug '17 8:33:00 AM by Larkmarn

Derkhan Relationship Status: Charming Titania with a donkey face
Aug 25th 2017 at 12:36:49 PM

Characters.Terra Ignota was created four days ago and I'm bringing it here because I am not sure how to proceed. It has the makings of a good characters page, but no tropes so far and the work page doesn't have enough to fill it in. A sandbox would've been a much better choice of namespaces for this as it is now. Anyway, I sent a stub notifier. Do I wait for a response and send it to the cutlist if I receive no reply?

Fighteer Geronimo! from the Time Vortex Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
Geronimo!
Aug 25th 2017 at 12:43:36 PM

Yes. They should launch it with much better quality than that.

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Derkhan Relationship Status: Charming Titania with a donkey face
Aug 27th 2017 at 9:19:52 AM

I have messaged the troper who made the page twice now, the second time with a non-standard message explaining the use of the Sandbox namespace for pages still under construction. Since they've edited in the meantime without replying, I've put the page on the Cutlist.

lakingsif Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
Aug 27th 2017 at 2:33:02 PM

Furry Lens desperately needs a better name, and some more time in TLP

OH MY GOD; MY PARENTS ARE GARDENIIIIINNNNGGGGG!!!!!
Aug 29th 2017 at 7:00:31 PM

Viga Loves Comics and The Apartment On Third Street is mostly a copy of the standard template and no examples

New account StupidMinotaur created a few pages that need work in most aspects

VideoGame.Enzai may be the same work as VisualNovel.Enzai which appears to be have been cut under 5P

edited 29th Aug '17 7:27:23 PM by jormis29

MarqFJA Fiat justitia, et pereat mundus from Saudi Arabia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Fiat justitia, et pereat mundus
Aug 29th 2017 at 9:29:13 PM

Video Game.Enzai may be the same work as Visual Novel.Enzai which appears to be have been cut under 5P
No maybe about it. It is the same work.

When we are crushing the black hearts of our oppressors, we will find our hands blackened.
SeptimusHeap from Southern Italy Relationship Status: Mu
Aug 30th 2017 at 1:39:01 AM

Where'd You Go, Bernadette? was created almost 2 months ago and so far has only one trope. I've messaged the page's creator 3 days ago but they haven't responded.

Jodorowsky's Dune was created on the 7th of August and has only 2 examples and is un-indexed. I sent 2 editing messages to the page's creator on the 18th, they responded back... asking how you make a custom title and not even mentioning what I'd messaged them about.

Larkmarn Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
Aug 30th 2017 at 8:19:17 AM

Splatter Horror launched with 6 hats, 1 bomb and enough unresolved issues it needed more discussion.

Furry Lens still needs to go back, if only for the name.

edited 30th Aug '17 8:19:58 AM by Larkmarn

WaterBlap Blapper of Water Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Blapper of Water
Aug 30th 2017 at 11:11:15 AM

I agree that Furry Lens needs to be unlaunched. The name is not clear.

[witty saying]
Aug 31st 2017 at 2:58:07 AM

Characters.Signal Firefly doesn't seem connected to anything and not much in the way of content

Kingof Idol is full of ZC Es, it is badly formatted, it has no description and other problems

Adventures In Aurora appears to be a personal campaign rather then a game

edited 31st Aug '17 4:20:52 AM by jormis29

WaterBlap Blapper of Water Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Blapper of Water
Aug 31st 2017 at 5:17:21 AM

Characters.Signal Firefly was created by ~Signal Firefly, so I think that's the tropers original characters. Maybe they can discuss where they can put that information? (Probably their troper page or the Characters/ page of the RP or fanfic those characters appear in.)

I don't know about Adventures In Aurora. So long as it's publically available, it could theoretically stay after some clean-up... It's been worked on by ~Legendwriter and ~Hydriatus, so maybe they can help clear things up.

I sent indentation and ZCE notifiers to the person who made King Of Idol.

edited 31st Aug '17 5:17:32 AM by WaterBlap

[witty saying]
Aug 31st 2017 at 6:02:41 AM

Analysis.Death Note Rules Of The Death Note and YMMV.Live Action TV appear to be misplaced

edited 31st Aug '17 6:02:54 AM by jormis29

WaterBlap Blapper of Water Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Blapper of Water
Sep 2nd 2017 at 12:01:34 AM

Brought in from ATT (courtesy link).

Artistic License Politics was launched early. There were unaddressed concerns that it would attract Flame Bait, and also concerns that it should focus on different elements of politics than it currently does. Other concerns include it not being cross-wicked or indexed, and it only having one example.

Somehow, it gained 8 hats (with 2 bombs making a net 6 hats). Here's a link to the draft: link. The last comment on the draft was 27 August but it was launched 1 September.

edited 2nd Sep '17 12:01:48 AM by WaterBlap

[witty saying]
Sep 2nd 2017 at 3:15:21 AM

Whoops, I didn't expect anyone to notice that page, since I didn't index it or anything. There isn't a work page to attach it to, so I can just move it to my troper page.

sgamer82 from Meridian, ID
Sep 4th 2017 at 11:01:18 AM

I hit the Random Media button and wound up with, Demolition Squad, a page whose description is one big run-on sentence. It had eight tropes, five of which are Zero Context Examples, one of which, Immaculate Conception, wasn't a trope, and there were issues with formatting and alphabetizing. After making the relevant fixes, it's only got two entries and even then Art Shift might yet be a ZCE (I tend to be a big generous).

I sent the person who made the page, movie007, a Stub PM, but their last edit is in May 2012, their last general edit is so far back the edit history's empty, their last forum post was July 2014, and the last mention of them in Ask The Tropers is September of last year, so not holding out hope here will be a resposne.

Still, since I already sent the PM and it directs people here, I'm posting on the off-chance they show up and so as to not go too far unilaterally.

edited 4th Sep '17 6:16:54 PM by sgamer82

Plus, remember how in Eragon everyone cries "a single tear"? Yeah, just try that with One Piece and see if it works
Berrenta Sweet Veil from Texas Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Sweet Veil
Sep 4th 2017 at 7:36:28 PM

[up] Checked info on that user, and they were last seen May of this year. There appears to be an edit around then, but for a page that was likely cut.

As for that page, it's pretty stubby. Might as well cut it.

sgamer82 from Meridian, ID
Sep 4th 2017 at 10:07:28 PM

Cut request submitted. Should I do anything about the redlinks, since they're usually left in to encourage making a page?

Plus, remember how in Eragon everyone cries "a single tear"? Yeah, just try that with One Piece and see if it works
Sep 5th 2017 at 6:01:07 AM

Analysis.The Secretof NIMH doesn't appear to have muchh in he way of analysis


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