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TLP Crash Rescue - Fixing prematurely launched TLPs and pages

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Prematurely launched pages and pages that weren't fully fleshed out at the point of launching, are a big problem. Since these usually share several problems at once, this thread is aimed at re-running them through the TLP for fixing - the usual fix - or cutting them if they are too bad.

Problems this thread deals with include bad names, not enough/bad examples, unclear description, etc.

For the interested, here's a list of recently created pages. Launches

Note: Please do not request a mod to unlaunch drafts that don't have any issues besides lacking a launch notice/24hr launch notice. While 24hr launch notices are mandatory, there are a few exceptions to the rule. If you see a draft's sponsor launch a TLP without an announcement, it's best to remind them of our TLP Guidelines first. If they continue to repeatedly launch drafts without a launch notice, you can report them on Ask The Tropers or the TLP Community Issues thread.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jun 24th 2023 at 12:24:55 PM

Candi Sorcerer in training from Closer to rimward than hubward Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
Sorcerer in training
#3951: Dec 8th 2015 at 6:16:01 AM

Than the Jyuuouger article needs to be created in the Sandbox namespace, and not place in the main wiki until there is something out to work with.

Be very careful how you phrase things. "It will get quickly recreated" if it's cut -which will be by a mod- sounds very close to an intention to edit war over the article's existence. I'm certain I'm reading it wrong. smile Just please be careful, okay? tongue

Coming back to where you started is not the same as never leaving. -Terry Pratchett
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#3952: Dec 8th 2015 at 6:22:17 AM

Eh, if it gets the requisite 3 good examples then it can live.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Digifiend Since: Sep, 2009
#3953: Dec 8th 2015 at 9:18:26 AM

It already had more than three tropes listed - and it was already a redlink on the Super Sentai page - that's what I meant when I said it would only end up getting recreated. If I hadn't made the page, someone else would have. And they wouldn't know if a previous version had been deleted, as unlike on Mediawiki wikis, there's no "you are recreating an article that was previously deleted" notification.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#3954: Dec 8th 2015 at 11:58:31 PM

Today's worklist:

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#3955: Dec 10th 2015 at 3:25:44 AM

Today's worklist:

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
mariic Since: Nov, 2009
#3956: Dec 10th 2015 at 6:28:38 AM

Trust me, Tumblr has a LOT of character blogs.

valozzy Since: Feb, 2013 Relationship Status: Desperate
#3957: Dec 10th 2015 at 6:31:39 AM

[up] Sure, but that namespace is not valid.

Also, YMMV.Donald Trump needs to go. It's just asking to spark an Editing Flame War over Trump himself and his running for president.note 

edited 10th Dec '15 6:33:27 AM by valozzy

AntonioCC Since: May, 2012
#3958: Dec 10th 2015 at 11:57:54 AM

[up][up][up] Added more content to the Nova Trek page, as well as a link to the content.

Candi Sorcerer in training from Closer to rimward than hubward Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
Sorcerer in training
#3959: Dec 10th 2015 at 12:44:40 PM

[up][up]We don't trope real people anyway. The only tropes that should be on any page are ones about his fictional appearance in media that don't have their own works' pages to appear on. Nuke it with fire.

Coming back to where you started is not the same as never leaving. -Terry Pratchett
valozzy Since: Feb, 2013 Relationship Status: Desperate
#3960: Dec 10th 2015 at 12:50:12 PM

[up] Well yeah, but I didn't feel like stating the obvious. tongue

Looking at it's Discussion page, it seems to have been cut before in February of this year. Maybe it needs a lock so someone doesn't try to add it again?

Candi Sorcerer in training from Closer to rimward than hubward Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
Sorcerer in training
#3961: Dec 10th 2015 at 3:49:31 PM

Probably. It wouldn't be the first time a page had to be perma-locked.

Coming back to where you started is not the same as never leaving. -Terry Pratchett
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#3962: Dec 11th 2015 at 1:07:22 AM

We shall see. Today's worklist:

Also, on Captain America Films Sandbox, The Incredible Hulk Sandbox, Iron Man Films Sandbox and Thor Sandbox, ~randomtroper89, what is the scope of these pages?

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#3963: Dec 11th 2015 at 2:46:37 AM

Additional work page stubs: Block Five, The Addams Family, Shining Wind, Clang Invasion, Mitten, Fruity Robo, The Real Golden Gamer, Squiddish Gaming, Ittlesam.

Also My Best Friend's Girl has only about 2 complete tropes, and Resident Evil: The Marhawa Desire has only 1.

edited 11th Dec '15 3:17:14 AM by Morgenthaler

You've got roaming bands of armed, aggressive, tyrannical plumbers coming to your door, saying "Use our service, or else!"
Berrenta Bejeweled (she/her) (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
MyTimingIsOff Since: Dec, 2011
#3965: Dec 11th 2015 at 3:07:34 PM

Here's a botched work page creation: Mario Super Slugger. Issues:

  • The title is spelled wrong (Sluggers should be plural).
  • Incorrect formatting, such as the lack of italicized work titles, unpunctuated example entries, and the examples list not being properly separated from the description.
  • Zero Context Examples.
  • Not enough indexing.

I would also like to note that the game is a sequel to a game we don't have a page for (Mario Superstar Baseball).

I notified the creator via PM.

edited 11th Dec '15 3:41:50 PM by MyTimingIsOff

Berrenta Bejeweled (she/her) (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Bejeweled (she/her)
#3966: Dec 11th 2015 at 8:25:53 PM

Okay, according to the creator of the trope I inquired about, the trope they were trying to present is different from what the name told us. (They wanted it to be a trope for unnamed diseases, apparently.) Replied back suggesting that they can think of a better, not-misleading name, and directed them to YKTTW.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#3967: Dec 12th 2015 at 2:51:35 AM

Today's worklist:

^^That should be cut straightaway; stub+wrong URL=instant cut as it cannot be repaired or moved.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
DrNoPuma Streaky from the land of Humorous Hyenas (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: Married to the music
#3968: Dec 12th 2015 at 6:27:28 AM

[up] If you don't mind me asking, what exactly is wrong with my page? And what do I have to do?

Very good kitty
Candi Sorcerer in training from Closer to rimward than hubward Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
Sorcerer in training
#3969: Dec 12th 2015 at 12:11:41 PM

It's been discussed in ATT and elsewhere that Self-Demonstrating pages should be limited to characters that have a distinct voice, such as Deadpool's chronic Fourth Wall Breakage, or Hulk's "puny god" type speech.

(Unofficially, it's preferred if they have some level of extended vocabulary: "I am Groot" or "Pika-pika-pickachu" over and over got old really fast.)

Coming back to where you started is not the same as never leaving. -Terry Pratchett
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#3970: Dec 13th 2015 at 2:29:04 AM

Today's worklist:

~randomtroper89, what is the purpose of Agent Carter Sandbox, Agents Of SHIELD Sandbox and Guardians Of The Galaxy The Movie Sandbox?

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Akriloth2160 a.k.a. Artemy Musha from the UK Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Hounds of love are hunting
a.k.a. Artemy Musha
#3971: Dec 13th 2015 at 11:00:34 AM

Oh, I see what happened on my end. Hold on, I'm putting up an alternative on the original Laconic page. I'm only just getting the hang of footnotes, which is likely why it didn't occur to me at first to put the spoilery laconic description on the laconic page itself. The TrueLaconic page linked on the top of the game's main page can be removed. (Not the one on the redlink above my post, since that seems to have a typo)

edited 13th Dec '15 11:01:52 AM by Akriloth2160

Ronnie, Ronnie
Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#3972: Dec 13th 2015 at 11:15:20 AM

Additional work page stubs: Pumpk And Cham And Pai, Space Goose, Spookyville USA, Nonsense World, The Keeki And Cookie Show, Littlest Pet Shop Presents, Cat Person, Knights Of Zodiakos, and Cyans Legacy.

You've got roaming bands of armed, aggressive, tyrannical plumbers coming to your door, saying "Use our service, or else!"
randomtroper89 from The Fire Nation Since: Nov, 2010
#3973: Dec 13th 2015 at 2:59:59 PM

Explanation for the mcu sandboxes. I'm putting together an organized sandbox for the franchise at whole. The page sandboxes are to direct the readers.

Nohbody "In distress", my ass. from Somewhere in Dixie Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
"In distress", my ass.
#3974: Dec 13th 2015 at 8:04:43 PM

Sandbox pages are fine, but they should go in the /Sandbox/ namespace, e.g. "Sandbox/AgentCarterCharacters" or whatever. The /Characters/ namespace is for completed pages.

All your safe space are belong to Trump
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#3975: Dec 13th 2015 at 11:54:43 PM

~randomtroper89, can you please Cut List these misplaced Character namespace pages? Including Daredevil 2015 Sandbox, Jessica Jones 2015 Sandbox and Luke Cage Sandbox.

Otherwise, worklist:

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

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