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TLP Crash Rescue - Fixing prematurely launched TLPs and pages

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Prematurely launched pages and pages that weren't fully fleshed out at the point of launching, are a big problem. Since these usually share several problems at once, this thread is aimed at re-running them through the TLP for fixing - the usual fix - or cutting them if they are too bad.

Problems this thread deals with include bad names, not enough/bad examples, unclear description, etc.

For the interested, here's a list of recently created pages. Launches

Note: Please do not request a mod to unlaunch drafts that don't have any issues besides lacking a launch notice/24hr launch notice. While 24hr launch notices are mandatory, there are a few exceptions to the rule. If you see a draft's sponsor launch a TLP without an announcement, it's best to remind them of our TLP Guidelines first. If they continue to repeatedly launch drafts without a launch notice, you can report them on Ask The Tropers or the TLP Community Issues thread.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jun 24th 2023 at 12:24:55 PM

YasminPerry Since: May, 2015
#3876: Nov 18th 2015 at 11:22:03 PM

IMHO, the wiki as a whole would be MUCH better without the dumb SD pages.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#3877: Nov 19th 2015 at 2:12:26 AM

Today's worklist:

  • Snail Bob: Stub work page; creator messaged.

Sliding Scale Of Live Action TV Obscurity strikes me as a "bad idea" Sliding Scale page.

Locking a namespace is possible, but not in a prompt fashion. Sunset Shimmer can be cut however.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#3878: Nov 19th 2015 at 2:28:54 AM

The only thing about locking the namespace is that while the character pages are terrible, I think self-demonstrating trope pages, at least as a Just for Fun thing, are somewhat defensible and so shouldn't be flatly prohibited.

Candi Sorcerer in training from Closer to rimward than hubward Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
Sorcerer in training
#3879: Nov 19th 2015 at 3:01:37 AM

A vetting thread for SD (is the character worth it or not) might need to be a thing. Working like Complete Monster and Five-Man Band, where no approval means no page/entry.

It might also prevent the kind of reasoning I'm seeing on the edit banned/suspended thread at the moment...

Coming back to where you started is not the same as never leaving. -Terry Pratchett
Nohbody "In distress", my ass. from Somewhere in Dixie Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
"In distress", my ass.
#3880: Nov 19th 2015 at 5:57:44 AM

Submitted the Sunset page for cutting. Should be easy to find, as it's the only entry at the moment. tongue

All your safe space are belong to Trump
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#3881: Nov 20th 2015 at 12:46:03 AM

Intros Always Lie: Anyone opposed to cutting for stub?

Worklist:

Also, regarding Club Der Roten Bänder ~Kai Aquila can you move that page to Club der roten Bänder and Cut List the previous page, please? The wiki software does not like umlauts in the URL.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
YasminPerry Since: May, 2015
#3882: Nov 20th 2015 at 4:42:50 AM

Just putting it out there - I made a page on Laughter in the Dark. Now, while I have read the book, it's been a couple of months so I don't really remember a lot of what happened in it. If someone who's read the book recently can work on the page, I'd be grateful.

Berrenta Bejeweled (she/her) (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Bejeweled (she/her)
#3883: Nov 20th 2015 at 5:34:25 AM

In regards to Intros Always Lie, I have no objections on cutting it.

Ozian123 from UK Since: Aug, 2015 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
#3884: Nov 20th 2015 at 5:54:37 AM

[up]The thing with Titanic, is that I am not very familiar with it having just listened to the cast recording but I am going add as many examples as I can but any help I can get would be appreciatedsad

superkeijikun Since: Aug, 2010
#3885: Nov 20th 2015 at 9:05:34 AM

@Septimus Heap20th

My bad. I went ahead and fixed those, and will keep that in mind in the future.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#3886: Nov 21st 2015 at 2:17:23 AM

Today's worklist:

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#3887: Nov 22nd 2015 at 2:40:28 AM

Today's worklist:

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
TheUnsquished Filthy Casual from A youngun between two oldies Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Filthy Casual
#3888: Nov 22nd 2015 at 4:48:08 AM

I don't think the Marvel Cinematic Universe Actors page needs to exist, really.

(Annoyed grunt)
Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#3889: Nov 22nd 2015 at 5:05:02 AM

Additional stubs: Warlords, Space Duel, and Night Driver.

You've got roaming bands of armed, aggressive, tyrannical plumbers coming to your door, saying "Use our service, or else!"
Zyffyr from Portland, Oregon Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
#3890: Nov 22nd 2015 at 8:33:03 AM

Driving Stick - definitely off mission

MCU Actors - I suppose a case could be made for it to exist, but it does seem pointless to me.

edited 22nd Nov '15 8:33:12 AM by Zyffyr

Commander145 Since: Oct, 2010
#3891: Nov 22nd 2015 at 7:04:13 PM

About the Fanfic the The Dream Must Go On!, I have indexed it under https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Continuation, but the page for the fanfic still doesn't show it was indexed, may I ask why is that so?

Any advice to help me?

Nohbody "In distress", my ass. from Somewhere in Dixie Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
"In distress", my ass.
#3892: Nov 22nd 2015 at 7:28:59 PM

Not sure why it's not indexing. I tried the "blank edit to trigger indexing" thing, didn't work.

[edit] I did, though, submit a custom title to include the exclamation point at the end automatically.

edited 22nd Nov '15 7:32:02 PM by Nohbody

All your safe space are belong to Trump
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#3893: Nov 23rd 2015 at 12:46:32 AM

That page is not an index, it's a trope. That's why you cannot index your work page on it.

Otherwise, worklist:

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Zyffyr from Portland, Oregon Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
#3894: Nov 23rd 2015 at 3:35:17 AM

Analysis.Jaianto Robo - definitely an advertisement. The item it discusses isn't even connected to what it is allegedly an analysis of.

Anime.REC - definitely plagarized. All content is ripped directly from the 'source' link at the bottom of the page.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#3895: Nov 23rd 2015 at 3:59:06 AM

I've cut both pages.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
ARCHON Since: Jan, 2015
#3896: Nov 23rd 2015 at 9:23:41 AM

Hello all, I'm the author of usefulNotes/Driving Stick. I'm new to adding content, and aside from formatting and linking (was going to improve today), I'd like to ask what I did wrong? There's a lot of poor/misinformation out there regarding this skill, so I figured I'd add some background and instructions for anyone who wanted to know more about the Real Life use of the trope. Is that not what Useful Notes are for?

Honest questions, I'm still learning :-)

Zyffyr from Portland, Oregon Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
#3897: Nov 23rd 2015 at 3:54:28 PM

The issue with UsefulNotes.Driving Stick is one of whether or not such a page is something that belongs here at all. In what way is the page useful to someone trying to either understand or to create fiction?

edited 23rd Nov '15 3:58:53 PM by Zyffyr

Candi Sorcerer in training from Closer to rimward than hubward Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
Sorcerer in training
#3898: Nov 23rd 2015 at 4:53:35 PM

Driving stick is often represented in written stories I've see as automatic with an additional lever, so it could use a 'this is how it works' for those looking to represent it properly in fiction.

ARCHON, the point of Useful Notes is so those writing fiction have a reference point to represent the subject correctly. How it relates to real life is secondary, if relevant.

Of course, it's also easier to have your character screw up if you know what they're messing up in the first place. tongue

The description needs to discuss how it relates to fiction, rather than discuss real-life applications.

Coming back to where you started is not the same as never leaving. -Terry Pratchett
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#3899: Nov 24th 2015 at 12:12:01 AM

What Candi said.

Today's worklist, as an aside:

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Whoa15 Since: Dec, 2014
#3900: Nov 24th 2015 at 11:32:43 AM

Sorry! Thanks for removing the character page, I was about to do it when I got up this morning.


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