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Prematurely launched pages and pages that weren't fully fleshed out at the point of launching, are a big problem. Since these usually share several problems at once, this thread is aimed at re-running them through the TLP for fixing - the usual fix - or cutting them if they are too bad.

Problems this thread deals with include bad names, not enough/bad examples, unclear description, etc.

For the interested, here's a list of recently created pages. Launches

Note: Please do not request a mod to unlaunch drafts that don't have any issues besides lacking a launch notice/24hr launch notice. While 24hr launch notices are mandatory, there are a few exceptions to the rule. If you see a draft's sponsor launch a TLP without an announcement, it's best to remind them of our TLP Guidelines first. If they continue to repeatedly launch drafts without a launch notice, you can report them on Ask The Tropers or the TLP Community Issues thread.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jun 24th 2023 at 12:24:55 PM

SolipSchism Since: Jun, 2014
#3026: Apr 2nd 2015 at 4:13:17 PM

Oh, I see. Well, in any case, the rest of my post is valid. I also agree with everything Cathari Sarad said: It still needs work, but it's shaping up nicely.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#3027: Apr 3rd 2015 at 3:35:19 AM

Coga Nito is shaping up well, but it needs Crosswicking.

Otherwise, worklist:

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
sanfranman91 Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#3028: Apr 3rd 2015 at 5:05:02 AM

[up] Hi there. I got the message regarding 'Plastic Memories. It's a series that will begin airing tomorrow and I think is going to receive a lot of attention from other tropers. I would thus respectfully request that the page would not be deleted yet as I will add tropes to it later today. Thanks for the heads up though.

GELGOOG Since: Apr, 2015
#3029: Apr 3rd 2015 at 8:21:35 AM

Thanks very much for the input, everyone. Proper Crosswicking is on my to-do list for this evening. While I'm in the process, I'll have another look over what's listed on the works page, and maybe consider taking some off and 'putting them aside for later' in case later comic updates provide better examples of such. Edit: Good call in particular on Slasher Smile- that page itself linked me to Cheshire Cat Grin, which is much more accurate for the character in question [being 'eccentric and up to something' rather than 'literally going to murder someone'].

edited 3rd Apr '15 8:54:19 AM by GELGOOG

SolipSchism Since: Jun, 2014
#3030: Apr 3rd 2015 at 9:39:01 AM

[up] Actually, since you're the creator, you're in a unique position to provide whatever information you want to provide via Word of God or All There in the Manual, it just needs to be hosted somewhere. So if you do like a companion blog or something where you post supplementary information, you won't need to worry about whether you're troping something that has actually happened in the work or if you're just losing perspective on what you know and what your readers know. If that makes sense. Just an idea.

Candi Sorcerer in training from Closer to rimward than hubward Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
Sorcerer in training
#3031: Apr 3rd 2015 at 5:43:25 PM

[up][up]Also, you don't need to delete those trope if you think you'll be adding them later. Just use %% to comment them out, and they can be fleshed out later as you post later pages.

Coming back to where you started is not the same as never leaving. -Terry Pratchett
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#3032: Apr 4th 2015 at 3:36:43 AM

Today's worklist:

edited 4th Apr '15 3:36:52 AM by SeptimusHeap

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Digifiend Since: Sep, 2009
#3033: Apr 4th 2015 at 5:09:33 AM

The Thunderbirds Are Go page that I started should easily be fleshed out once the first episode airs four hours from now.

In answer to the Doctor Who one, I looked at Namespace and I'm not sure if that would count as Web Video or Fanfic.

edited 4th Apr '15 5:18:27 AM by Digifiend

tryrar Since: Sep, 2010
#3034: Apr 4th 2015 at 6:30:49 AM

[up]brotip; simply don't make a page until the show starts airing and you have more info. It's lot like you'll keel over dead if you're not the one to make the page

crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
NaNo 4328 / 50,000
#3035: Apr 4th 2015 at 7:20:13 AM

~Digifiend & ~KittyEden — Fanfic/ is for Literature-based stories that violate copyright. Any other stories that violate copyright are permitted in their medium namespaces, which would be Web Video/ in this case.

edited 4th Apr '15 7:21:02 AM by crazysamaritan

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
Digifiend Since: Sep, 2009
#3036: Apr 4th 2015 at 7:28:57 AM

Tryrar, the intention was to pre-emptively prevent redlinks. What if people start adding stuff to other pages (such as Thunderbirds) before the page was made? Also, notice that I already categorized it (under British Series). How many pages get made without that being done?

Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#3037: Apr 4th 2015 at 8:17:17 AM

Here are two more:

You've got roaming bands of armed, aggressive, tyrannical plumbers coming to your door, saying "Use our service, or else!"
Digifiend Since: Sep, 2009
#3038: Apr 4th 2015 at 1:51:33 PM

Thunderbirds Are Go has been expanded and I've just copied the Doctor Who: The Ginger Chronicles page to the Web Video namespace. The wrong namespace version should probably now be cutlisted and the Main redirect needs to be updated.

edited 4th Apr '15 1:53:05 PM by Digifiend

KittyEden from in a murder forest, somewhere Since: Jun, 2014 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
#3039: Apr 4th 2015 at 3:46:20 PM

Ooh, sorry. I'm a bit new to this and I wasn't sure how to index it properly. How should I fix it?

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#3040: Apr 5th 2015 at 2:32:01 AM

Today's worklist:

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
WillyFourEyes from [Hyperlink blocked] (Troper Sage) Relationship Status: Abstaining
#3041: Apr 5th 2015 at 2:51:28 AM

I think Suikoden should count. The series had been going on for at least a decade (five mainline video games and at least two spinoffs), and there were a few radio shows and drama CD adaptations that aren't chronicled in detail here on TVT. I probably goofed by changing the namespace and not adding the page to the index when I was working on it.

"It ain't about whether you win or lose, unless you got money on the game, because...damn. That's your money, son."
Zyffyr from Portland, Oregon Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
#3042: Apr 5th 2015 at 4:48:10 AM

Willy, there needs to be pages for 3 distinct mediums present on TV Tropes before it qualifies for a franchise page. The fact that there are works in that many mediums isn't sufficient in itself.

Digifiend Since: Sep, 2009
#3043: Apr 5th 2015 at 3:58:18 PM

Kitty, I fixed the namespace for you. I copy and pasted the page to the right namespace, mentioned what I did, and I see that the incorrectly named page has now been deleted (and I assume any wicks updated - I left that job for a moderator to do). The actual article looks fine, it was just in the wrong place.

I did just notice that the Fan Work page is about types of fan work, not a specific one, so I'm afraid Ginger Chronicles didn't belong there. It should have been indexed on Web Video.

edited 5th Apr '15 4:02:39 PM by Digifiend

crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
NaNo 4328 / 50,000
#3044: Apr 5th 2015 at 4:56:57 PM

~Digifiend — It is okay for a work to be a Red Link. That's not a bad thing.

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#3045: Apr 6th 2015 at 2:39:53 AM

Today's worklist:

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#3046: Apr 6th 2015 at 2:44:48 PM

Another worklist:

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
PDL (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#3047: Apr 6th 2015 at 3:41:13 PM

@ Septimus Heap

I've actually never heard of the work in question, so I don't really know what category it's actually supposed to fall under. I only made the page because the original page was in the wrong namespace (if I recall, it was created under "Web Series"). I moved to "Mr Ubiquitous" but wasn't aware that "Web Series" wasn't even a proper category.

edited 6th Apr '15 3:42:34 PM by PDL

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#3048: Apr 7th 2015 at 1:27:49 AM

~PDL: Seems like it's a YouTube series, thus it would go into WebVideo/.

Otherwise, worklist:

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
SolipSchism Since: Jun, 2014
#3049: Apr 7th 2015 at 9:12:27 AM

~Digifiend: crazysamaritan has the right of it. Red Links are not inherently a bad thing. Red Linking works is actually more or less encouraged as long as they point to the correct name for the page, because it encourages editors familiar with the work to create a page for it.

Edit: As a matter of fact, that's mentioned in the second paragraph on Red Link.

edited 7th Apr '15 9:13:23 AM by SolipSchism

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#3050: Apr 8th 2015 at 12:50:17 AM

Today's worklist:

Also, seeing as nobody has justified Suikoden I've backed the page back out.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

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