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TLP Crash Rescue - Fixing prematurely launched TLPs and pages

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Prematurely launched pages and pages that weren't fully fleshed out at the point of launching, are a big problem. Since these usually share several problems at once, this thread is aimed at re-running them through the TLP for fixing - the usual fix - or cutting them if they are too bad.

Problems this thread deals with include bad names, not enough/bad examples, unclear description, etc.

For the interested, here's a list of recently created pages. Launches

Note: Please do not request a mod to unlaunch drafts that don't have any issues besides lacking a launch notice/24hr launch notice. While 24hr launch notices are mandatory, there are a few exceptions to the rule. If you see a draft's sponsor launch a TLP without an announcement, it's best to remind them of our TLP Guidelines first. If they continue to repeatedly launch drafts without a launch notice, you can report them on Ask The Tropers or the TLP Community Issues thread.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jun 24th 2023 at 12:24:55 PM

theAdeptRogue iRidescence Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
iRidescence
#2601: Dec 2nd 2014 at 12:44:01 AM

[up][up]What does archived discussion mean, actually? And how would it affect how we'll have to deal with this stub?

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#2602: Dec 2nd 2014 at 12:49:22 AM

The archived discussions are the discussions that existed before a change in the discussion system in early 2010. The existence of an "archived discussion" button means that the page existed already since early 2010.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#2603: Dec 2nd 2014 at 6:17:51 AM

Given the one example, and the fact that Googling the phrase "Roddenberry Line" only brings up the page (and copied versions from the TV Tropes knockoffs), I'd say it's safe to cut.

Though I suppose given its age TRS would be the appropriate place to take it.

edited 2nd Dec '14 6:18:12 AM by Larkmarn

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StFan Since: Jan, 2001
#2604: Dec 2nd 2014 at 9:44:01 AM

Another stub located: The Search For Wondla

It's about 3 years old but hasn't moved beyond three tropes and a very short description. Has a fridge subpage but is unindexed and in the wrong namespace.

Also Young Samurai

The description is acceptable, but there's no tropes, no wicks (so no crosswicking possible), and it is also unindexed and in the wrong namespace. (Plus it's locked for some reason.)

edited 2nd Dec '14 1:50:56 PM by StFan

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#2605: Dec 2nd 2014 at 3:18:29 PM

Tomorrow I won't be doing a worklist - I have an assignment due and it's been delayed for the third time, and trying to finish it this evening has burned me out completely.

This evening, though:

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Cooper Since: Dec, 2009
#2606: Dec 2nd 2014 at 3:57:33 PM

Was gonna delete that, but you locked it before I could. So yes, feel free to get rid of Super-Evil.

theAdeptrogue iRidescence Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
iRidescence
#2607: Dec 2nd 2014 at 11:15:12 PM

@2603: Last time I did that with Human Trial Is Human Error, I got redirected here, so I thought I should bring it up in this thread. So any more support to cut?

SolipSchism Since: Jun, 2014
#2608: Dec 3rd 2014 at 2:35:31 PM

It doesn't look like anyone has added it yet, so I'll go ahead and say that Is It Just Me was brought up in ATT. It's been around since 2010 but has only a very small handful of wicks and inbounds. Its example list is all quotes with no explanation, the description is very stubbly, and it's being treated more or less as a Stock Phrase with no clearly-defined trope. It was suggested to bring it here.

Darksilverhawk Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
#2609: Dec 3rd 2014 at 11:01:37 PM

When In Rome Do As I Do. Year and a half old, two sentence description and three somewhat poorly written examples. Technically hitting the minimum here, but hardly thriving.

Rocks fall, everyone miraculously survives.
Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#2610: Dec 4th 2014 at 5:36:41 AM

Lose Lose Situation: All we've got is a (really bad) description.

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valozzy Since: Feb, 2013 Relationship Status: Desperate
#2611: Dec 4th 2014 at 6:53:32 AM

Lose Lose Situation: Did they seriously put spoilers in the description? I also don't understand what the description is trying to say at all.

edited 4th Dec '14 6:54:00 AM by valozzy

mlsmithca (Edited uphill both ways)
#2612: Dec 4th 2014 at 9:24:26 AM

Isn't the premise of a lose-lose situation basically covered by Morton's Fork anyway?

edited 4th Dec '14 9:24:41 AM by mlsmithca

SolipSchism Since: Jun, 2014
#2613: Dec 4th 2014 at 9:50:57 AM

Re: LLS, I actually got mad at that page. Partially at the spoilers, and partially at how many Pot Holes there are in the tags. I have gotten into the habit of double/triple-clicking on spoilers to quickly reveal the whole thing, and twice I accidentally clicked on Pot Holes and had to go back to read the damn spoilers. >:|

[up] Not quite. A Lose-Lose situation is a situation in which both outcomes are bad. A Morton's Fork is a situation where both outcomes are not merely bad, but essentially the same.

  • Lose Lose Situation: I flip a coin. Heads I kill your lover, tails I kill your children.
  • Morton's Fork: I flip a coin. Heads I win, tails you lose. (Or heads I shoot you in the face, tails I slit your throat.)

edited 4th Dec '14 9:53:35 AM by SolipSchism

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#2614: Dec 4th 2014 at 10:34:22 AM

Today's work- and replieslist:

When In Rome Do As I Do and Is It Just Me can both go burn in Etna's fires as far as I care.

Also, ~Backlash, why did you make all these empty wrestler pages (like Wrestling.The Nation)?

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Anicomicgeek Burning MireGoji from Japan (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Burning MireGoji
#2615: Dec 4th 2014 at 10:39:11 AM

Didn't know whetever to put it in Franchise or Creator. Sorry about that.^^;

edited 4th Dec '14 10:40:51 AM by Anicomicgeek

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#2616: Dec 4th 2014 at 11:36:20 AM

Pretty sure it'd be Film/, actually.

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Darksilverhawk Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
#2617: Dec 4th 2014 at 12:01:55 PM

So does that mean you think it's unsalvagable and I should cutlist it?

Rocks fall, everyone miraculously survives.
Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#2618: Dec 4th 2014 at 12:11:34 PM

I say cut the sumbitch.

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ryanasaurus0077 Since: Jul, 2009
#2619: Dec 4th 2014 at 2:29:52 PM

I added some tropes for the 'verse in general; will that suffice, or should I add some more?

Anicomicgeek Burning MireGoji from Japan (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Burning MireGoji
#2620: Dec 4th 2014 at 2:37:26 PM

Pretty sure it'd be Film/, actually.

So, how do I fix it?^^;

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valozzy Since: Feb, 2013 Relationship Status: Desperate
#2621: Dec 4th 2014 at 2:52:37 PM

Move it to the Film/ namespace and cutlist the original.

edited 4th Dec '14 2:52:48 PM by valozzy

Anicomicgeek Burning MireGoji from Japan (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Burning MireGoji
#2622: Dec 4th 2014 at 5:01:39 PM

Move done and posted in the cutlist.

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BackLash Since: Jan, 2001
#2623: Dec 5th 2014 at 2:37:52 AM

^^^^^^^^^Heap: Yes, I intended to fill them when I made them but time go away from me IRL. I'll correct that.

Nohbody "In distress", my ass. from Somewhere in Dixie Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
"In distress", my ass.
#2624: Dec 5th 2014 at 5:42:54 AM

^ If you're working on a page and don't want to do it offline in notepad or whatnot, use the Sandbox namespace (f'rex, Sandbox.The Nation). Unless you're gone for months at a time, it'll still be there if you get caught up in RL stuff, and when it's ready to go then you can just copy the content over to the proper place and cutlist the sandbox page.

edited 5th Dec '14 5:43:58 AM by Nohbody

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