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- Wrong: The Mentor: Kevin is this to Bob in the first episode.
- Right: The Mentor: Kevin takes Bob under his wing in the first episode and teaches him the ropes of being a were-chinchilla.
- Never just put the trope title and leave it at that.
- Wrong: Badass Adorable
- Right: Badass Adorable: Xavier, the group's cute little mascot, defeats three raging elephants with both hands tied behind his back using only an uncooked spaghetti noodle.
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- Wrong: Full Moon Silhouette: Diana
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Edited by SeptimusHeap on Jul 17th 2025 at 8:59:01 PM
This is from Trivia.Teasing Master Takagi San:
- Studio Hop: The first season of the anime was licensed and streamed by Funimation and Crunchyroll, before switching to Netflix for the second season, and then Sentai Filmworks for the third season.
Since Channel Hop is for when a program hops between different channels/networks or different studios, and the first and third seasons of the anime have been respectively released on home media in North America by Funimation/Crunchyroll and Sentai, is this considered a valid example?
Edited by gjjones on Nov 25th 2022 at 1:21:12 PM
He/His/Him. No matter who you are, always Be Yourself.
Channel Hop just seems to involve networks and channels, so I don't feel home media-related entries count.
Found this example in ShrinkingViolet.Fan Works.
- Nobody Dies. Asuka. Langley. Sohryu. A Combination of the changes made by the backstory, Kyoko's Initial personality, Pieter's leaving Kyoko and leaving them for another woman (who is even worse than his first wife, amazingly enough.) has left Asuka a stuttering, self-depreciating nervous wreck with multiple personalities. Things get a lot better when she meets Shinji.
So I've gotten into a discussion with Black Yakuzu 94 about this trope that I deleted about The End
from Sonic Frontiers, and I believe both of us would really like to not get into an Edit War.
This whole enemy is very much so a spoiler btw
- Generic Doomsday Villain: Downplayed. While it has a slight manipulative side, it doesn't show off much personality besides craving destruction.
I'm gonna say that I truly don't think it counts. It has a large speech at the end that talks about how evil it is, making it a Card-Carrying Villain as well as how powerful it seems to be, and has moments of Evil Cannot Comprehend Good in its speech and is shown to taunt Sonic (it also has a Villainous Breakdown after its defeated where it blows itself up in attempt to defeat Sonic and Sage). Before it's revealed to be a villain, it also tells Sonic to free its friends and defeat the titans in a rather polite manner, and shows to be intelligent enough to exploit Sonic's lack of knowledge and Sonic's desire to save Tails, Amy and Knuckles, showing that it's highly manipulative.
I truly believe that its speech and intelligence gives it just enough of characterization for it to not qualify as a GDV, just as a Flat Character.
Here's the speech
- The End: Mortal, you have served your purpose. Now face your End. I am the all-consuming void. What can one mote of golden light illuminate within the abyss? Countless stars. Countless worlds. Countless lives. All fell to me, all brought to nothing. All the teeming chaos of creation? Brought to order. To neutrality. To nothing. I saw your mind as you ran through my prison. You have fought machines and gods. They were mighty. They were finite. I am Infinite. I am nothing. You struggle as so many have done before. You will be consumed like all those before you. I saw your mind. Your courage never wavered. Why? Arrogance? Ignorance? Stupidity? I was contained, once. Once. Is that why? My captors bent time and space. My captors built a whole reality to contain me. My captors burnt their souls away to fuel their engines. And you? You glitter; you fly above me like a gnat. I am inevitable, I cannot be denied. You strike this incarnation with all your might. It changes nothing. You are not brave; you are not victorious. No matter what form I take... The End comes for you all!
Edit: Forgot to mention, that the troper I was discussing this with is banned from the forums, so he can't come on this thread.
Edited by ReynTime250 on Nov 26th 2022 at 11:23:56 AM
Wasn't there some Trope Talk on Generic Doomsday Villain about misuse and conflicts with Complete Monster? I don't know whatever came from that
Yeah, I think so. I know the rules for GDV changed a while ago, with villains like The Shadow Queen, MCU's version of Dormammu and Malekith now being allowed for Complete Monster status when before they were originally considered as GDV's.
This isn't entirely about that, considering the threads shut rn (This villain may get brought up there when the threads active), but I don't really think it counts as a GDV because it isn't a mindless, sapient being. It knows what it's doing and has a little bit of characterization.
Edit: Alright, I found the old TRS thread
about Generic Doomsday Villain.
Edited by ReynTime250 on Nov 26th 2022 at 10:56:23 AM
From the main pgae of The Witch Boy:
- Deliberate Values Dissonance: Charlie is the only person who's openly cool with Aster being a witch, if only because as a Muggle, she has no frame of reference for what magical folk would consider "normal" or "proper." Furthermore, she has two fathers and chafes at the gender segregation of her school's sports, further compelling her to sympathize with Aster for being "different."
This sound more like Your Normal Is Our Taboo or something similiar to my. Thoughts?
ValdoOn The Owl House - Amity Blight:
- Obliviously Evil: In her first few appearances it seems that she doesn't see or care how much she was hurting others with her attitude, she spent years demeaning Willow over her poor abomination magic even though they use to be very close, she also blames Luz for embarrassing her, ignoring the fact that she was the one who escalated the situation and puts Luz in life threatening danger. Amity only thought about herself without thinking of the problems and feelings of others. She even hypocritically called Luz a bully despite her own attitude over a misunderstanding involving her diary and other incidents and being confused on why Luz wants to befriend her and make up. However this trope gradually becomes averted when its revealed that she does show remorse for "overreacting" and has a Heel Realization after Luz tries to save her, and later when she makes up with Willow.
Amity isn't evil, she was just a bully, can I cut it?
"We'll meet again" | 🏳️⚧️Okay, I just can out of an early screening of Puss in Boots: The Last Wish so I’m going to spoiler tag this one:
The Black Forest will change its appearance and landmarks based on what is in the heart of whoever holds the map to the wishing star. Puss, who is fearful of losing his last life, gets a firey Death World. Kitty, who just wants someone she can trust, gets a sorrowful swamp. Perrito, who is happy-go-lucky and doesn’t have a wish, gets a peaceful path full of flowers. Goldilocks, who just wants to find a family of her own, gets a recreation of the Three Bears’ cottage in an effort to show her that they were her true family the whole time. Sounds like a Fisher Kingdom to me!
Also, I think we can call the Black Forest an eldritch location, due to the aforementioned changing of the landscape and the characters getting the sense it doesn’t want them to reach the wishing Star.
You’re Gonna Carry That Weight.I brought this up on the unreleased works thread. Early screenings are fine, as it means they were available to the public, albeit temporarily.
You’re Gonna Carry That Weight.Should I bother listing someone as The Ghost if they eventually make an appearance (i.e. Unseen No More)?
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Generic Doomsday Villain are, according to the trope page: "defined solely by the threat they pose." and "never does anything particularly evil, or even much of anything." They can have personality and motives, yes. But the goal is always something like Take Over the World.
Edited by SoyValdo7 on Nov 26th 2022 at 6:05:10 AM
ValdoAre you sure about that?
Edited by WarJay77 on Nov 26th 2022 at 7:06:21 AM
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its from the PlayingWith.Generic Doomsday Villain
Edited by SoyValdo7 on Nov 26th 2022 at 6:07:22 AM
ValdoPlaying With pages, like laconics, aren't authoritative definitions.
I didn't choose the troping life, the troping life chose mePages like that aren't always reliable. GDV recently went through TRS, so that might not be accurate anymore.
Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper Wall
(x7) From my understanding of The Ghost, it stops counting if the character is eventually seen.
(x6) I agree that it has too much characterization to count as a Generic Doomsday Villain. I also feel it has too much characterization to count as a Flat Character; FCs have a couple personality traits from my experience (EDIT: at least).
Edited by RandomTroper123 on Nov 26th 2022 at 5:47:38 AM
Suggesting adding to the pinned post tips to work only with the trope's actual description, and not secondary sources like examples and subpages.
TroperWall / WikiMagic CleanupI feel this entry from Recap.My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic S 2 E 19 Putting Your Hoof Down is shoehorning. What do you all think?
Edited by RandomTroper123 on Nov 26th 2022 at 5:48:20 AM
Is this Existential Horror, Psychological Horror, or Cosmic Horror Story?
- Bad Press: Starscream proposes that the reason humans write fanfiction about Depecticons that places them in human-like scenarios is because on some instinctual level humanity understands that the Decepticons are far more powerful than they could ever be, and it terrifies them. In the grand scheme of things, there's very little stopping said Decepticons from bringing their full incomprehensible strength down upon the Earth; humans attempt to humanize them through writing in an effort to assuage their own fears, despite having no way of knowing what the Decepticons are actually capable of.
Found this in Trails Series Erebonia Ironblood (spoilers for Trails into Reverie ahoy!)
- Important Haircut: The first time Rufus is shown without his "C" mask, he's show to have cut his hair short in order to fit into his mask.
Iirc, Important Haircut should have the person cut their hair in story to show their Character Development. Since Rufus likely cut his hair before Reverie starts it probably fits Expository Hairstyle Change, but Im asking here to be sure my intuition is correct.
She/Her | Currently cleaning: N/A

Prissy and Mammy are two separate characters played by Butterfly McQueen and Hattie McDaniel respectively. I had forgotten (for shame!) about McDaniel when I made my comment above.
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