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- Wrong: The Mentor: Kevin is this to Bob in the first episode.
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- Wrong: Badass Adorable
- Right: Badass Adorable: Xavier, the group's cute little mascot, defeats three raging elephants with both hands tied behind his back using only an uncooked spaghetti noodle.
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- Wrong: Full Moon Silhouette: Diana
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Edited by SeptimusHeap on Jul 17th 2025 at 8:59:01 PM
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That edit is dated January of 2021, so over a year ago. The troper certainly has not participated in any forum threads related to Trope descriptions either. Not sure if we need a trope talk on this or not to determine.
I don't see any discussion on the Trope Description Improvement Drive
thread around that date either.
Edited by laserviking42 on Feb 20th 2022 at 8:54:48 AM
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I agree with you and the whole misuse thing seems to oparate on the Animation Age Ghetto.
We have loosely discussed
Cross-Cast Role in the context of trans actors. Personally I don't think it counts because they were not cast with the intention of them not being the same gender as their role, but it would count if they are kept in the role after transitioning. Maybe worth a Trope Talk thread for more consensus?
On the topic of "the many Relationship Voice Actors in Japanese Voice Acting"
, is it a Only So Many Canadian Actors, but Seiyu, situation?
Edited by Malady on Feb 20th 2022 at 6:48:05 AM
Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576On the Bolt page, I want to include an In-Universe example of Seasonal Rot.
Mindy, the studio executive, says the show's basic formula of "Bolt the Superdog" is beginning to run its course, with declining ratings and people getting tired of the same "Bolt saves Penny" plotline. The director's attempt at spicing up the story triggers the plot.
So would this count as an In-Universe example of Seasonal Rot?
Edited by redandready45 on Feb 20th 2022 at 7:14:52 AM
That sounds valid, if the reception is indeed decreasing. Is there a more specific trope for people getting sick of Strictly Formula setups after a while?
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.In One Piece, the Arlong Pirates was one of the founding crews of the Sun Pirates, but broke away to become their own crew once again after Jimbei became a Warlord and Fisher Tiger was killed. Does this count as The Remnant?
He/His/Him. No matter who you are, always Be Yourself.
Not familiar with the work and can't quite parse that sentence, but if there was an army/faction, and it was defeated, any leftover forces still fighting after said defeat would be The Remnant.
The Kirby entries on Woolseyism.Video Games list every translations' versions of the level-acronyms, no matter how similar they are to the original. Should I remove the ones that basically mean the same thing?
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Arlong Pirates are a splinter group from Sun Pirates, who were still active after Jinbei took over, so I don't think that works.
I don't really see the problem, if these are acronyms then naturally they wouldn't work well in other languages and needed to be changed to something else.
Edited by Amonimus on Feb 20th 2022 at 10:26:01 PM
TroperWall / WikiMagic CleanupI mean like:
The only one that feels like it counts is French.
I think all four are examples, but it would be difficult to illustrate why without listing every single level whose name had to be chosen to spell out the new acronym.
ERROR: The current state of the world is unacceptable. Save anyway? YES/NORegarding Cross-Cast Role, I'd personally vote to exclude retroactive examples from the definition, but I I opened a discussion in ATT
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Does Fake Nationality cover constructed worlds, or is there a more appropriate 'fake accent' trope? In Arcane, born-and-bred Englishman Harry Lloyd noted that he put on a Czech accent
for his character, but of course the setting doesn't have a "Czech Republic". I'm also reminded of Angelina Jolie putting on a British accent to play a Human Alien in Eternals, even though (a) they're aliens (b) everyone else kept their native accents.
Edited by Synchronicity on Feb 21st 2022 at 11:17:17 AM
Does this from the main description of Filler before the examples list, count or is it better on another trope's page?:
In the context of ongoing anime series adapted from ongoing manga, because where the main purpose of the anime is often to follow the manga storyline (unless the source material ended and there are no plans to continue further - with everything being anime-only), any story that's created to fill time because the series Overtook the Manga literally cannot have any significance. Ultimately the anime is going to Snap Back into following the manga, so the filler arcs — even if they're enjoyable in their own right — cannot contribute anything of substance to the story.
In most cases, the defining aspect of filler is the lack of series momentum.
Edited by Merseyuser1 on Feb 21st 2022 at 5:32:38 PM
So remember how I said I would try to Justice League example
for Fan-Preferred Cut Content. Well, here is my attempt:
- Justice League (2017) went through many extensive reshoots, modifications and cuts as a result of original director Zack Snyder departing in favor of Joss Whedon, namely the reduction of Cyborg's character arc, removal of characters like Darkseid and Ryan Choi, and several scenes which gave more depth to the villain Steppenwolf. The finished product was not well received by fans or critics. This and fans showing interest in the cut content revealed by Snyder would cause Warner Bros. to let Snyder re-edit the film with much of the cut content to be closer to his original vision with much of the cut content, resulting in Zack Snyder's Justice League, which most consider to be a far better film than the theatrical version, with the Cyborg scenes, in particular, being something a lot of fans feel should have been kept in the theatrical cut.
Thoughts?
Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup thread
Seems fine to me.
Would this fit Astonishingly Appropriate Interruption? A character is about to finish a sentence with "Ruby", but midway through the word, another character interrupts with a sentence starting with "be". It's part of a musical song, if that matters.
- "I hate to be the newbie, if only I could find Ru—"
"Be calm(?) young man, you got nothing to lose, [...]"
From what I can tell it belongs.
Side note, Astonishingly Appropriate Interruption is riddled with ZCEs, make sure your entry isn't just the name of the show and a quote.
Edited by laserviking42 on Feb 21st 2022 at 8:48:44 AM
I didn't choose the troping life, the troping life chose meI found this under Characters.One Piece World Government, under the World Nobles folder:
- Always Chaotic Evil: Almost all the World Nobles are sociopathic jackasses who kick and rape puppies as much as they breath For the Evulz.
Almost is the key word here. If it's almost than it isn't this trope at all. One Piece actually subverts this trope with Doflamingo's family. His father wanted to renounce the title and live among the commoners, even though he and his family ended up paying the price for basically existing. They didn't even do any bad stuff while they were nobles IIRC.
So, with a rewrite, should I put this under Not Always Evil instead?
Thomas fans needed! Come join me in the the show's cleanup thread!Definite rewrite or cut, but I'm not sure if Not Always Evil is the best trope if it and Always Chaotic Evil are mostly about races and henchmen. I'd personally modify Aristocrats Are Evil to something along the lines of "All of them with the exception of White Sheep ..., who ..."
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There are a couple of examples in Animated Shock Comedy that aren't actually animation. One is Conker's Bad Fur Day, which is a video game. Another is Avenue Q, a stage musical with puppets like the ones on Sesame Street. And the trope was also listed on the work page for Meet the Feebles.
So do we count those, despite not being animated?
I talked to El Squibbonator about Meet the Feebles, and they said that since puppets are seen as childish, the basic concept is the same—to subvert expectations by using something people see as childish in order to be subversive and add adult stuff like sex, swearing, etc.