Is this an example?

I figured he's a dinosaur, but is he a dinosaur that's similar to a dragon? Because Cat Like Dragons is pretty specifically about dragons.

YMMV.Bridgerton: Is the layman expected to know they didn't wear corsets in the Regency era?

• Critical Research Failure: One of the early episodes includes a gag where the Featherington girls are tight-laced into corsets, with Lady Featherington insisting that when she was their age, her waist was only the span of orange; disregarding that women of the era would not be wearing corsets but rather stays (which are also very difficult to tight lace) and that the fashion of the time was to look like a Greek column, meaning that dresses were not intended to highlight a lady's waist, instead going straight up and down. Comes across as a failed attempt at feminist commentary on how restricted/tortured women were by their clothing in the past (see also: Daphne's scratches and scabs from wearing her corset - not stays - without a shift).

Maybe Artistic License – History?

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re Killed Offscreen: Could mention the uncertainty and move it to Uncertain Doom.

Trouble Cube continues to be a general-purpose forum for those who desire such a thing.

Bringing up my previous question since it got buried.

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I was wondering if a case for Early-Installment Weirdness for Helluva Boss could be added to the main page. It has to do with the recent episode establishing that demons have to avoid being recognized while on Earth through either human disguises or staying hidden. The series pilot had IMP being in full view of the public and talking with humans (at the hospital when the doctor asked them for insurance) as well as opening the Hell portal and dropping off Eddie's corpse to his mother on live tv.

So would a case for this trope be arguable, or is it too early to tell?

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Is this an example of EIW, or not?

I think if only one episode has contradicted the pilot so far then it's too early to tell.

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Back on Critical Research Failure: It's an example of Hollywood Costuming for sure, but I'm asking if it's an obvious enough error for CRF.

My answer on the ATT hasn't changed for that one.

Edited by Synchronicity on Feb 10th 2021 at 2:28:04 PM

Ssj@ I don't think it counts because the episode that established it has Loona call out the others for not doing it in the first place and treated it as them being stupid.

On Characters.Winnie The Pooh Main Cast, Christopher Robin is listed as a Mr. Imagination because of his adventures with the characters based on toys. But while the real Christopher Milne was only imagining his adventures, in the fictional universe, they're actual Living Toys if not Funny Animals (they're clearly toys in Disney; in the books it's a little unclear). So is he really a Mr. Imagination?

For every low there is a high.

If they're not products of his imagination, then there's no evidence he's a Mr. Imagination.

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Can the The Stars Are Going Out cover just the sun going out?

Also, would this count for Deus Exit Machina? (previously brought up here)

• 17776: An offscreen example. Ten spends the time in between 17776 and 20020 in hibernation. As a result, and without her around to object, Juice ends up developing and implementing the bowl game which becomes the basis of 20020's plot. As the author put it in a Q&A:
  I needed Ten to hibernate, because she loves well-considered, intelligent gameplay, and she would have shot [Juice] down at every opportunity.

Inspired by a video that was recently added to Flirty Stepsiblings, which also had an example added as well from the same series, Drake & Josh. However, at least half of these moments are subtext, and we came to a disagreement over whether subtext counts for the trope, especially in a children's show where relationships between stepsiblings are highly unlikely. Here's the entry text, BTW - note that it leads with fandom perception. (Also I think it way oversteps the amount of gay jokes between the brothers - I'm pretty sure the moments in the videos are all of the really gay moments between the two. I don't remember seeing them as a couple at all, and the idea is just No Yay to me personally.)

• Drake & Josh fans aren't imagining things when they say the step-brothers act more like a couple. Their constant bickering Like an Old Married Couple doesn't even scratch the surface. The Nickelodeon Kid Com hit the ground running with this vibe between them and never stopped, from the numerous times they use flirty (or, in Drake's case, seductive) tones with each other, a bit where Drake apologizes to Josh by acting like he's proposing to him, that time they both started hanging out with the other's doppelganger in a mutual Operation: Jealousy, the time Josh dumped Drake for good and insisted that from now on, "all we'll be is roommates," to all the times they've kissed. Including once on the lips.

(Note that some of these moments aren't even deliberate Homoerotic Subtext in canon, but are simply the duo having disputes as friends, i.e. the Operation: Jealousy episode and the "all we'll be is roommates" thing, which meant Josh was cutting ties with Drake as a friend, and possibly as a brother. I'm actually a bit concerned with how Julia 1984 is troping this show as they also referred to the duo as Flirty Stepsiblings on an Opposites Attract entry, which suggests a weird shipping agenda.)

Edited by mightymewtron on Feb 10th 2021 at 11:57:04 AM

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A character does not die on-screen, and was neither in a scene that could have led to his death if we kept the focus on him. We simply have Word of God that he died in a event from the work that killed untold numbers of people. Is Killed Offscreen still the right trope?

For example, Lady Sif from the Thor films, who was dusted during the snap in "Infinity War", confirmed dead by the Russos among other minor characters not in the film (see here).

Ultimate Secret Wars

The Night That Never Ends?

I'm.......pretty sure Flirty Stepsiblings has to be less shipping goggles-y than that.

Killed Offscreen technically applies to the situation, but if the context for something is entirely Word of God I believe it should be listed under that in trivia.

Edited by Synchronicity on Feb 10th 2021 at 11:12:59 AM

Hm. I guess? The description mostly focuses on when it's the goal of a villain. It doesn't... seem to be limited to that, though?

And then there's Always Night, which claims that "If this is caused deliberately (such as by a villain) during the story, as opposed to having always been the case, that is The Night That Never Ends." I'm gonna take this to the Trope Description Improvement Drive...

Edited by Twiddler on Feb 10th 2021 at 9:34:13 AM

Can Does Not Like Guns apply to a character who doesn’t want to use a gun because they’re afraid of having to use a weapon?

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Is this correct?

• Strong Family Resemblance: Pictures of Skid without his mask show he has the same bob-like haircut as his mom, with hers going down the shoulder and his stopping at the neck. Lila actually purposefully styles her hair like Skid's because them having the same haircut makes him happy.

Work is Sr. Pelo's Spooky Month.

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That trope seems to mainly be about characters who can hold their own (master martial artist, has superpowers, or an expert at non-firearm weaponry), and the contrast comes from them being good at fighting and refusing to use this thing that is good at killing on principle. If they are afraid of all weapons and not guns in particular then that might not be an example.

Justified Hereditary Hairstyle would be a closer fit.

Edited by Synchronicity on Feb 11th 2021 at 10:14:47 AM

Something like this, then?

• Hereditary Hairstyle: Pictures of Skid without his mask show he has the same bob-like haircut as his mom, with hers going down the shoulder and his stopping at the neck. Lila actually purposefully styles her hair like Skid's because them having the same haircut makes him happy.

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I think so.

Tommy Turnbull, the human protagonist of Robotboy, has a crush on Bambi, which falls under All Love Is Unrequited considering her personality and that she subjected him to Humiliation Conga one time, which brought him to tears (even Robotboy thinks that she's bad). However, he continues to pine for her. What's also baffling is that Tommy is very Oblivious to Love regarding Lola Mbola, one of his best friends, having a huge crush on him despite how very obvious she is about that. Does Tommy fall under Love Makes You Dumb or otherwise?

Edited by FoxABeeNeeOwnYes on Feb 11th 2021 at 11:12:31 AM

>Tommy has a crush on Bambi, which falls under All Love Is Unrequited

Tangential question: Is all love unrequited in that work, or just this one case? Because only one of those falls under the trope.

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Before I add this to Unintentional Period Piece (can't decide where on that page), does this entry fit the trope:

• A car dealer in Ashton-under-Lyne, Greater Manchester, England still had its website from 2004 Frozen in Time to May 2004 on the Internet until August 2019 when it disappeared permanently from the web; the website showed its age in terms of design and cars available - hatchbacks, sedans and sports cars, when nowadays it'd be crossover SUV, hybrid and pickup trucks. The pre-HTML 5 design and color scheme also dated it to the 2000's as well, plus promos for Strictly Come Dancing 's first season as pop-up adverts.

Can Attack Its Weak Point apply when a character doesn’t realize they’ve injured the part of a creature that instantly kills it?

Also, does the Non-Action Guy need to be a Foil to another character?

Edited by jandn2014 on Feb 11th 2021 at 10:12:48 AM

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Can humanlike aliens count as Ambiguously Brown since there's likely not any chance of a human ethnicity to begin with? I ask because hibiscusleilei removed a bunch of Ambiguously Brown edits from some Star vs. the Forces of Evil character subpages with the edit reason, "this isn't simply "brown skin equals ambiguous". Not human so impossible to say if brown skin is unusual for their ethnicity." The trope page doesn't seem to specify how to approach alien characters, just that Fantasy Counterpart Culture would disqualify one from counting.

Some of them are Moomans but I think Kelly was included there too, and she's not Mooman. I'm not super familiar with the show (I didn't know the twist you mentioned).

Edited by mightymewtron on Feb 12th 2021 at 12:24:40 PM

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^ Honestly I don’t know. I asked that question in the TRS that fizzled and died and never got an answer.

I mean, unless I drastically misunderstand the trope, I'd assume Human Aliens would not count.