Do you have trouble remembering the difference between Deathbringer the Adorable and Fluffy the Terrible?
Do you have trouble recognizing when you've written a Zero-Context Example?
Not sure if you really have a Badass Bookworm or just a guy who likes to read?
Well, this is the thread for you. We're here to help you will all the finer points of example writing. If you have any questions, we can answer them. Don't be afraid. We don't bite. We all just want to make the wiki a better place for everyone.
Useful Tips:
- Make sure that the example makes sense to both people who don't know the work AND don't know the trope.
- Wrong: The Mentor: Kevin is this to Bob in the first episode.
- Right: The Mentor: Kevin takes Bob under his wing in the first episode and teaches him the ropes of being a were-chinchilla.
- Never just put the trope title and leave it at that.
- Wrong: Badass Adorable
- Right: Badass Adorable: Xavier, the group's cute little mascot, defeats three raging elephants with both hands tied behind his back using only an uncooked spaghetti noodle.
- When is normally far less important than How.
- A character name is not an explanation.
- Wrong: Full Moon Silhouette: Diana
- Right: Full Moon Silhouette: At the end of her transformation sequence into Moon Princess Misty, Diana is shown flying across the full moon riding a rutabaga.
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Edited by Synchronicity on Sep 18th 2023 at 11:42:55 AM
Film Hypocrite example
- Tony condemns Steve about knowing that HYDRA had his parents killed and not telling him. Treating the lie by omission as the ultimate betrayal of trust. However Tony had lied in the past when he was dying leading to erratic and self-destructive behavior. As well as without discussing with the rest of team, created an advanced tactical AI behind their back, that lead to mass death and destruction as well as almost ended the world. An act unlike Steve he has never apologized for.
Edited by Tuvok on Feb 23rd 2020 at 6:43:12 AM
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That's shoehorning. When he was dying he wasn't part of a team yet, so he had no one to tell, and Ultron wasn't a secret, he was working with Bruce the entire time.
Found this on YMMV.Omega Boost:
- That One Level: For many players, it was Zone Five, where Omega Boost heads down a timeshaft buried on planet Eta’s surface. Of course, it got much easier once they discovered the Scan button.
I don't doubt that Zone 5 would be difficult without using the Scan button, but the thing is, Scanning is such an integral part of the game that I have a hard time imagining many people being unaware of it.
It's like playing through all of Sonic 2 and not knowing about the spin-dash. Sure, it's possible, but, really?
I'm helping!
I can only assume that the person who added that example made exactly this mistake themself.
In any case, the trope they're looking for is Noob Bridge.
Trouble Cube continues to be a general-purpose forum for those who desire such a thing.
@Malady, Multi Ethnic Name is listed on No Real Life Examples, Please! on the basis of "Too Common in Real Life to Trope".
Edited by Twiddler on Feb 23rd 2020 at 12:07:01 PM
I have been trying to ask a question about an example I wish to add. Problem is, I've posted it twice, and both times it got ignored. I would post it a third time, but I fear it may come off as spam if I did so without asking.
Would it be alright if I re-post that potential example?
Edited by TheNerfGuy on Feb 23rd 2020 at 8:04:46 AM
- I've double-reposted before, but depending on what it is, it might be worth finding a thread for the work, instead.
Edited by Malady on Feb 23rd 2020 at 5:43:40 AM
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Bonnie's Artistic Cousin
Yeah, in my experience things seem to get ignored if people don't know the work well enough to say. Or it's just too busy and people get ignored.
Current Project: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
I'll give a link to the post.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13543987200A54420100&page=444#comment-11100
Edited by TheNerfGuy on Feb 23rd 2020 at 9:04:39 AM
- Yeah, likely subversion. The name implies the trope, which the description almost fulfills, but doesn't.
I don't think it's a subversion. To subvert it you have to set up an expectation first, but the name is False Hydra. Right from the start, it's telling you that it's not a true hydra.
Would it be an example of Our Hydras Are Different? And which folder would it go under?
I'm inclined to file it under Tabletop Games, but because it's homebrew, I feel it might be Fan Works, instead. I'm not really sure.
This link is the first time I asked about it: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13543987200A54420100&page=443#comment-11051
It includes a link to the actual monster as a reference since it would be part of the example.
- It's referencing hydras, so yeah, it'd count for some play on the trope.
Edited by Malady on Feb 23rd 2020 at 6:53:30 AM
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If it's meant to be played in D&D, but the monster itself never appears in any official D&D publications, I'd put it under Fan Works. Unless its source work can be considered a work in its own right, then I'd put it under whatever that work would go under. Like how Red Vs Blue started off as a Halo fanwork, but it's not categorized under Fan Works on trope pages.
Web Original, maybe? <ponders>
Edited by Twiddler on Feb 23rd 2020 at 7:06:16 AM
Berserk Button: misusing Nightmare Fuel
I'd say it's a legit example of Our Hydras Are Different, but the fact that it's homebrew makes me question whether it actually should be troped. It doesn't actually exist in officially-published DnD material, so it shouldn't be troped under that game, but at the same time Fan Works is for, well, fan works, and I don't think a single monster someone made up counts as a "work". Where was the monster published?
Does Seldom-Seen Species extend to seldom-seen dog breeds? And if so, would a Great Pyrenees qualify as seldom-seen? Referring to an example found in "Doggy"'s folder on Characters.Spy X Family.
Edited by Zuxtron on Feb 23rd 2020 at 10:06:00 AM
Details on it were first published here in 2014.
Bonnie's Artistic Cousin
Would a case of a doctor being able to give a paternity test to an in-the-womb fetus be Artistic License – Medicine, or Artistic License – Biology?
Current Project: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
Medicine? It sounds a medical procedure.
Bonnie's Artistic Cousin
Probably, I was just thrown off by some of the tropes on both pages. But Medicine does sound more accurate.
Current Project: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
- Actually, it sounds difficult, but not impossible. The genes are still there, you just gotta find a way to scan them.
Edited by Malady on Feb 24th 2020 at 2:37:51 AM
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It is possible to get a paternity test before birth, according to this anyway.
One could argue tropes are flexible, but I don't think a breed of a particular species counts when you can just, eh, make them. We don't trope Seldom-Seen Inventions.
If a boss is That One Boss, but is in a Boss-Only Level, does that count as That One Boss or That One Level?
For further context, the stage in question is actually two bosses, only the first one is That One Boss, but the entire stage is timed, which can make the second boss difficult as well since you'll probably take most of that time to fight the first one.
- Why not just both?
Removed this from Creator.Kathryn Bernardo... But does this count as valid Trivia for a Creator page?