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May 23rd 2019 at 12:25:34 PM A short Pokébreak for some Peridot.
ReynTime250 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
May 23rd 2019 at 1:47:54 PM

I just had this deleted for it being a story trope

Is Asshole Victim a story trope? I've always thought it was a character trope because it was about a character having a nasty fate but the character itself deserves it.

Edited by ReynTime250 on May 27th 2019 at 4:18:12 PM

May 23rd 2019 at 3:22:10 PM

Does this count, since it's not unlikely for a player to talk to that woman, given that she's not hidden, or is it just downplayed?

VideoGame.Threads Of Fate:

  • Developers' Foresight: A woman in Carona can ask Mint to find Elena, and that causes Mint to guess Elena's name, when they meet, but if that woman isn't interacted with, Elena gives her name, instead.

Edited by Malady on May 23rd 2019 at 3:22:46 AM

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May 24th 2019 at 2:12:17 AM

I've started to question the validity of an Infinity +1 Sword entry on Ace Combat 7: Skies Unknown

  • Infinity +1 Sword: The X-02S Strike Wyvern requires beating the campaign to open up in the Aircraft Tree, and requires the purchase of at least one of the YF-23, F-22A, or Su-57, AND 2 million MRP to unlock. Its stats are unparalleled.

To my knowledge, Infinity +1 Sword is meant for equipment that you'll never get if you don't deviate from normal gameplay loops. The X-02S in this game is easily acquired by just hoarding currency through replaying the story campaign or Free Mission. It would've been a different story if there were more conditions like some of those hellish medals (No-Damage Run and Gun Only Run, to name a few) in Assault Records, but that's not the case.

This wouldn't be brought up if not for different tropers repeatedly insisting that a superplane that becomes available from the get go with a paid DLC is an Infinity +1 Sword, which to me totally isn't an example due to the lack of effort required in acquiring it (other than spending real money).

"They played us like a DAMN FIDDLE!" — Kazuhira Miller, Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
May 24th 2019 at 3:01:28 AM

Reposting from the previous page:

A few more examples from Hellboy (2019).

Does the following count as a notable Aversion?:

  • Broken Masquerade: Unsurprisingly averted. Unlike in the original movies, Hellboy's existence is no secret, and although his sudden appearance may be cause for some alarm among the populace, it is because of his Doom Magnet and Destructive Savior tendencies rather than any shock about coming face to face with a supernatural creature.

These examples are comparing the film to the previous Hellboy adaptations, shouldn't these tropes be instead comparing it to the original source material. Also do both examples provide enough context:

  • Darker and Edgier: The movie has a fairly hard R-rating, with plenty of gratuitous gore and swearing, in comparison to the previous two PG-13 films.
  • Denser and Wackier: Del Torro's takes on the subject were plenty goofy already, but this film really has a blast revelling in the sheer ridiculousness of its plot and characters.

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May 24th 2019 at 8:28:04 AM

Would a reference to Revolutionary Girl Utena be a Parental Bonus? It's a shoujo but on the mature side of shoujo.

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May 24th 2019 at 9:03:30 AM

By itself, no. It only counts if the reference is specifically to something inappropriate for the audience of the work, and older viewers can be expected to get it without being intimately familiar with the referenced work.

Edited by Fighteer on May 24th 2019 at 12:04:07 PM

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Merseyuser1 from Greater Manchester, United Kingdom
May 24th 2019 at 10:30:29 AM

I added this to AudienceAlienatingPremise.Live Action TV within the Doctor Who section but does this fit?:

May 24th 2019 at 10:42:41 AM

[up][up]Thats more They Changed It, Now It Sucks!. And even im not sure on that.

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May 24th 2019 at 11:48:35 AM

Are the examples for Author's Saving Throw on Aladdin (2019) examples?

AnoBakaDesu Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
May 24th 2019 at 12:10:05 PM

[up] Only the fourth entry is salvageable. The first three reek of WTH, Casting Agency? complaining.

I noticed that many tropers tend to use Author's Saving Throw for things that aren't story related like quality-of-life changes in gameplay (that's my number one issue with this trope, and maybe we should start a cleanup thread). That is Square Peg, Round Trope.

"They played us like a DAMN FIDDLE!" — Kazuhira Miller, Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
May 24th 2019 at 12:32:56 PM

[up] I see. I haven't seen much complaining about Jasmine's role in the original movie, but I have seen a lot of Author's Saving Throw where it pertains to gameplay patches to adjust balance or fan backlash, IE movie!Sonic's design changes. I think the last time AST came up in a discussion it was proposed to rework it to accept gameplay changes, but as far as I know nothing came of it.

Edited by lalalei2001 on May 24th 2019 at 12:33:31 PM

May 25th 2019 at 8:22:08 AM

Isn't this not "unwanted", but "just waiting for the right time"? A medicine works against an immediate threat? It being useful before it happens, would be a vaccine?

Unwanted Healing:

  • In Dragon Ball Z, Goku is visited by Trunks, a boy from the future who brings dire warning not only of deadly androids that will threaten Earth in three years' time, but of a heart virus that will kill Goku before they come. He gives Goku medicine that will save him when the illness appears, but in the entire three year span between Trunks' arrival and the androids', Goku never took the medicine because he never became sick. His illness doesn't kick in until the fight with the androids has already begun, incapacitating him while he's taken home and given the medicine to recover.

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May 25th 2019 at 8:25:15 AM

[up]I honestly see Goku being too stupid not to take it right away. Its not unwanted, just stupid.

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sgamer82 from Meridian, ID
May 25th 2019 at 8:55:10 AM

I remember adding that example when the trope was still TLP. I think I added it mostly because I was also adding the Abridged version, which seemed a straighter example where Goku deliberately avoided taking the medicine because it was grape flavor.

In hindsight, I can see how the regular series version doesn't fit.

Plus, remember how in Eragon everyone cries "a single tear"? Yeah, just try that with One Piece and see if it works
Merseyuser1 from Greater Manchester, United Kingdom
May 25th 2019 at 9:54:38 AM

I added this to AudioPlay.Big Finish Doctor Who but am I wrong here:

May 25th 2019 at 10:47:31 AM

[up]I believe that fits.

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May 25th 2019 at 12:49:21 PM

Trivia.Star Trek The Next Generation S 2 E 9 The Measure Of A Man:

  • Technology Marches On: Data, when asked, states that he can process 60 trillion operations a second, which was surely highly impressive at the time, but, as of 2018, you can buy a CPU for your computer that runs five times that fast off the shelf.

Is this accurate? I'm trying to fact-check this and while we definitely have supercomputers that far exceed Data in this department (and have for a while now), I can't figure out whether "average component bought by average consumer off average store shelf" is in this range or not.

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May 25th 2019 at 3:16:44 PM

This was deleted from Kiddie Kid because it wasn't deemed immature enough:

  • At age nine, In the kids from Recess still believe in cooties.

Is it an example or not? I've never heard of any kid who actually believed in "cooties", but it seems like something you grow out of by age 7 or 8.

sgamer82 from Meridian, ID
May 25th 2019 at 4:38:52 PM

Given it's literally a single sentence, I'd leave it off just for being Zero-Context. If there was an episode elaborating on cooties and whether or not they were too old to believe in them or something, there's not enough context to say either way if it's a proper example. Even noting, like you did, whether it's common to have grown out of it by this point would be helpful.

Plus, remember how in Eragon everyone cries "a single tear"? Yeah, just try that with One Piece and see if it works
May 25th 2019 at 7:11:41 PM

The Flash (2014) once got removed from the Dramedy page because I said it obviously wasn't, but somehow, it got readded.

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May 26th 2019 at 3:08:18 AM

  • In Pokémon Detective Pikachu, Pikachu is shown saying some mild curse words like "hell" and "damn". Many American Pokémon fans were surprised by these changes largely because the English localization of Pokémon media generally scrubbed out most adult content. In Japan, this wouldn't come as a surprise, since the anime has occasional moments of characters using similar levels of obscenity.

This was on a Values Dissonance page. I'm doubting whether the anime has swearing. That sounds like Obligatory Swearing added in by subbers.

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May 26th 2019 at 3:21:05 AM

I agree.

Too late, I'm already judging you. Here I go judging. Ahem. "That person spells 'Mmm' with seven M's. What a weirdo."
May 26th 2019 at 6:26:33 AM

From Characters.Kimetsu No Yaiba.

He Who Fights Monsters: While their motto is to destroy only "evil" demons, when confronted with a good demon like Nezuko they outright refuse to believe it is true and some even become incredibly angry.

Would the sentence be more in with Van Helsing Hate Crime since they would most likely kill a good demon?

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