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Which counts as the Adaptation Dye-Job?
Ozma is described as a strawberry blonde in one early book and never again AFAIK. Pretty much every illustration depicts her with dark brown hair and almost every adaptation depicts her with brown hair. At this point, isn't brown the closest thing she has to a canonical colour? Even Baum's 1910 films have her as a brunette. Her being a blonde would be an Early Installment Character-Design Difference. So, shouldn't her being depicted as a blonde be listed as Adaptation Dye-Job, instead of her as the more common brunette?
So, she should be excluded from Adaptation Dye-Job?
Edited by Pichu-kun on May 13th 2019 at 1:31:22 AM
Given the level of Continuity Snarl in the Oz books I think it's hard to coherently apply any of those adaptation tropes.
x4 Well, I would still spoiler the reason. And the reason why it was a semicolon is because it's the same thing as using a regular colon, but was within the same sentence. Example To add a post to the Trope Finder; push the blue "Find a Trope" button.
Made this example for WebVideo.Dad, but now that I'm crosswicking I'm less confident about it. Does it fit?
Edited by WarJay77 on May 12th 2019 at 11:22:09 AM
Do the following examples that were on Irene Iddesleigh and it's YMMV page, respectively, have enough context?:
Feel the second one is a ZCE since it does not elaborate on why its that.
Edited by WhirlRX on May 13th 2019 at 12:45:51 PM
Second bit sounds like speculation, but otherwise it fits.
I can see that; the series isn't even close to being over, so I did my best to mention what I felt was important without trying to make any major assumptions...but I guess it is still speculative. I'll chop off the second part to be safe.
the first one sounds more like Ye Olde Butchered English to me.
Edited by razorrozar7 on May 13th 2019 at 9:59:43 AM
Aesop.My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic
The trust your instincts one is the Aesop that's stated in-work, the other is inferred, so is that Alternate Aesop Interpretation instead and should be moved there? Can Some Anvils Need to Be Dropped overlap with Alternate Aesop Interpretation since it's not trying to drop that anvil?
Edited by Ferot_Dreadnaught on May 13th 2019 at 7:34:19 AM
From Series.Hannah Montana:
Does this count? Isn't Hidden Depths typically something like "The Big Guy also presses flowers and writes poetry in his spare time"?
Hidden Depths is about a surface archetype that conceals another aspect of characterization. It can be a tough guy who also writes poetry, but it can also be a Jerk Jock who's protecting his sickly sister, a pro boxer who's studying astrophysics on the side, or an estranged family member who would do anything to defend them.
The thing to look for is whether the character would fit more properly into another trope that captures that particular dichotomy better, under the principle that we should always use the most specific applicable trope in a supertrope-subtrope tree. Also, what matters for Hidden Depths is the juxtaposition of traits, particularly when the hidden trait is not obvious or comes out only in very specific circumstances. In other words it needs the "hidden" part, at least to the other characters if not to the audience.
Also, the example explains the relationship, but commits one of the classic TV Tropes sins of telling over showing: it's better if specific instances where the hidden trait is displayed are listed.
Edited by Fighteer on May 13th 2019 at 3:38:00 PM
This example on Spoiler Opening feels like a different trope:
That's closer to Trailers Always Spoil, I think. It's promotional material, at least.
I'm thinking about adding a potential example regarding VideoGame.Sakura Wars. Here goes nothing:
Edited by gjjones on May 14th 2019 at 3:13:06 PM
Does Cursed with Awesome applies to "curses" that aren't supernatural or science-fictiony? Like if a character had to get a new identity, and his "new" life is better, despity his angst?
Do the following example that are on Hellboy (2019) look like they have enough context?:
Can Shadow The Hedgehog from Sonic the Hedgehog being an example of Has Two Mommies?
Though is a gender-inverted situation. He was created by Professor Gerald and has the blood of Black Doom in his veins during the creation.
I added this to Amusement Park of Doom and the episode recap page, but now I'm wondering if it wouldn't fit better under Crappy Carnival (or both, if that's allowed), since the park in question is dangerous due to incompetence, not malice. Thoughts?
I wouldn't call Shadow, Gerald, and Black Doom a "family".
Having trouble figuring out whether an example is Defiant to the End or Face Death with Dignity. They're doing something violent in their last moments (defiant) but they are very calm and not spiteful about it (dignity). Specifically:
Amusement Park of Doom fits better, as itís not a carnival.
I've seen some examples of Year Outside, Hour Inside (currently wick-checking, and looking for ZCE's) which I'm not sure about. (Sorry for Wall of Text).
From Star Trek: Generations, should this be another trope:
Plus, these examples:
From FanFic.Legend Of Katara
Possible ZCE? No explanation of how? (not familiar with the source material)
From FanFic.Still Waters Series:
Possible ZCE? No explanation of how it's this way.
Also these examples from TropesGToF.Fate Gramd Order:
Seems valid, but is it rare for a work to have both Year Inside, Hour Outside and Year Outside, Hour Inside simultaneously?
I'll leave these four for now, but would appreciate it if people could check.
As I've been wick-checking, I'm wondering how we can avoid ZCE's with Year Outside, Hour Inside since some people may not be familiar with the work's source material, yet explaining how it qualifies for the trope.
This obviously isn't an Omnipresent Tropes trope, but examples with this should be looked at.
Edited by Merseyuser1 on May 15th 2019 at 7:09:06 PM
The Fate Grand Order happen on different events. So i think they can still have both.
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