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From YMMV.Cytus II:
Given how the game DOES have an E10+ rating, would it be a better fit for What Do You Mean, It's for Kids??
If it was marketed as for kids, it's What Do You Mean, It's for Kids?. If it was marketed as an adult work, it's What Do You Mean, It's Not for Kids?. The rating is irrelevant.
Reposting from the previous page:
For a potential entry on YMMV.Sakura Wars:
Is this a true example or a misuse?
#8500 — It may be YMMV, but those opinions do still need to be a lot more common for them to qualify. If we documented every single opinion out there, every YMMV page would be a mile long.
The Wii U has not been Vindicated by History. If anything, I've been seeing the opposite since the Nintendo Switch was released, with people saying it's "what the Wii U should have been in the first place".
If you have to ask the answer is probably "misuse".
It doesn't really explain where the harsher comes in, and really it's just "these two characters who are enemies in this show were voiced by people who were married in real life"
Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
Primis: fair enough; it's definitely not a hill i intend to die on.
I was checking out ComicBook.Ultimate Spider Man and found a huge Deconstruction listing that's "possibly even more of a deconstruction than its mainstream counterpart."
Can Techno Babble and Perfectly Cromulent Word apply to the same word in the same instance?
VideoGame.Jimmy And The Pulsating Mass:
Would these examples of Ultimate Universe fit the trope or are they too short.
From Anime.Fullmetal Alchemist:
From Tropes Qto Z:
Is this a ZCE?
Also, from The Transformers Megaseries, a possible ZCE:
Finally, from FanFic.Earth 27, isn't this another trope and not what's described:
Edited by Merseyuser1 on May 11th 2019 at 6:15:33 PM
From YMMV.Code Geass Lelouch Of The Resurrection.
What an Idiot!: Compared to the original series, the dumbest thing Ohgi does in this continuity might as well be how he tried committing suicide. Look, we get that you still screwed up and you're really sorry (and this probably means that so is your original counterpart), but did you have to try it in front of Lelouch, who still sees you as a one of his closest allies and doesn't even care about what happened anymore? Not to mention you still have Viletta and Naoto to look after.
I believe this wouldn't be an example on the account of looking at it in the Japanese view of seppuku in which someone who dishonored would commit ritual suicide to amend.
The two really short descriptions are clear Zero Context Examples. The Ultimate Universe page lists several components that an Ultimate Universe might have, and those descriptions fail to mention any of them; they could have all of them, or just a few, and it's just not enough information. Even the ZCE has some examples of a ZCE as "[name] is this trope."
The Fullmetal Alchemist example seems valid.
The Earth 27 example is ambiguous. I'd normally lean towards not an example, but the Ultimate Universe trope page itself has a bunch of poorly-elaborated examples, so both this one and the FMA one seem great in comparison. I'd keep it for now.
Edited by Darkaros on May 11th 2019 at 1:28:20 PM
that's clear misuse. What an Idiot! specifically applies to actions that are idiotic in the context of the narrative and narrative convention, and also have a specific format that's expected to be followed in writing the examples. pull it with fire.
e: huh, the page doesn't actually mention it, but almost all What an Idiot! entries follow the format of:
You'd Expect: actions that make sense within the narrative
Instead: actions that don't make sense within the narrative
i thought this was a hard rule, but it appears to just be a convention.
Edited by razorrozar7 on May 11th 2019 at 11:43:22 AM
Is this example on YMMV.Professor Layton Vs Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney an example?
"* Darkness-Induced Audience Apathy: The ending is happy, but there are so much deaths and moral ambiguity on the way to it that "no-one really died" comes off not as a relief but an asspull to make sure that everyone, regardless of their actual actions, are just innocent victims."
Darkness-Induced Audience Apathy indicates that it only applies if the conflict is meaningless because a) all sides are heinously evil or b) there's no hope whatsoever of a positive outcome. it sounds like the trope they're looking for is more along the lines of Esoteric Happy Ending, although that's not quite right either imo. it's definitely not an example of DIAA.
I was going to make an edit to Madagascar 3: Europe's Most Wanted, but I'm not sure it's a proper example.
Also, just to clarify; Skipper is using "Russki"note yes they do spell it without the 'e', in addition to pronouncing it as "Rooskie" as a synonim for "Russian", and has been doing so ever since he first met Vitaly. And any self-respecting American who remembers the whole "Better dead than Red" debacle in WWII can understand why Skipper would invoke said trope.
Isn't that more I Can't Believe I'm Saying This? EDIT: Sorry, I saw this before on Ask the Tropers and misread it.
I think this example on No Ending better describes a Gainax Ending, and is rather complainy:
Edited by rjd1922 on May 11th 2019 at 7:10:00 AM
Dude, read it again. I actually did change it to ICBIST before posting it here. EDIT: No prob, it's a minor mistake anyone could've made.
Edited by Gofastmike on May 11th 2019 at 11:08:56 AM
8510 — The Fullmetal Alchemist 2003 anime is not an Ultimate Universe. It doesn't "distill" anything, because there was nothing to distill; at the time, the manga was the only Fullmetal Alchemist content out there. It adapts the chapters of the manga that had been published up to that point more-or-less faithfully. In fact, the anime only deviates at all because the manga was still being written at the time.
Also, the anime ends with the protagonists' homeland being invaded by interdimensional Nazis, so I wouldn't really call it a more realistic take...
If he starts the sentence with "I never thought I'd say this...", then it counts.
Edited by Tabs on May 11th 2019 at 3:02:26 AM
x5: It's not Invoked in this instance; it's simply Played Straight, which doesn't need to be mentioned.
Kick Them While They Are Down... Could that be applied semi-literally? Emphasis mine:
So instead of "Invoked by Skipper", I can change it to "Done by Skipper"? I'd like to avoid making major changes to it, and the fewer, the better.
probably better to just leave that out entirely; it's a teensy bit nattery. also, in the quote, that should be a comma, not a semicolon. i would word it like so:
Im wonder if Wrestling.WWENXT can be considered a More Popular Spinoff to Wrestling.WWE Raw and Smackdown. NXT is just use as a development for wrestlers before being move to the Main Roster of Raw and Smackdown. However, fans see it as a more better product compare to the main ones.
Edited by WhirlRX on May 11th 2019 at 11:35:58 AM
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