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No, that's too vague.
Some more thoughts about Ultimate's Memetic Loser section:
Edited by Metaverse on Apr 22nd 2019 at 11:02:20 AM
Reposting from the previous page so it won't get lost.
From VideoGame.Shin Sakura Wars:
Are those Call-Back or Internal Homage examples?
Gonna do the same thing here and post this again so it isn't lost (forget about the other example I gave. I've decided I don't need to ask since it pretty obviously is one, I'm still a bit unsure on the Another Code example though):
In Another Code: Two Memories (the game is called Trace Memory in North America) Ashley asks the guy pretending to be her father about her mother's murder. If the player has, without any prompting at all, gone out of their way to take a photo of the newspaper article about the murder using the in-game camera, the scene is altered slightly: instead of just telling her supposed father that she saw an article, she instead shows him the photo you took and asks about the article in the photo.
Would this count for a Developers' Foresight example?
This was deleted off of Transplanted Character Fic:
The edit reason states that the author didn't want the example listed anymore because it's a mediocre Dead Fic of theirs. Is that against the rules or not?
The Fic May Be Yours, but the Trope Page Is Ours
In other words, it is against wiki policy to remove that example.
Edited by Serac on Apr 22nd 2019 at 2:39:54 PM
On Manic Pixie Dream Girl:
I'm unsure whether it's an example because Yuri has her own goal from moment one. She drags Hinata along after they meet to be a part of her cause, and he ends up willingly supporting her. The purpose of the group they make is Yuri's goal.
The trope description talks about "lack of independent goals" as a defining feature of the trope, but it's not clear whether it's an essential feature — see the paragraph that starts "Despite all that".
Edited by Twiddler on Apr 22nd 2019 at 5:06:34 AM
What Serac said. Add it back if it hasn't been already.
I found these examples at and am uncertain if they should be on the work page, for an Alternate History Web Original page, WebOriginal.Dirty Laundry An Alternate1980s (which I've added to Follow This Page, since I'm trying to slowly re-write parts) :
and (shouldn't this be in trivia):
The reason I ask is - if something's Alternate History, surely Original Flavour doesn't apply as it's a Fan Fic, not an Alternate History trope, unless I'm wrong?
Edited by Merseyuser1 on Apr 23rd 2019 at 2:03:50 PM
First example: No, because the work IS an original work. The only source material it should be a fan fic of is Real Life. And, well, every single piece of entertainment you could be entertained by would count.
Second example: Yes, it should stay there, because the creator is talking about a band that exists only in the work's universe. Well, the band existed in real life (maybe) and made a song with that title (maybe), but the song is different. The band didn't dress up as raisins while preforming their song, for starters.
Once Is Not Enough, is about hitting with a weapon once, then stopping, right?
Not these, "Killing once isn't enough" examples, which seem pervasive on the page?
From Trivia.Ben Hur:
Edited by gjjones on Apr 24th 2019 at 3:52:51 PM
I created WesternAnimation.Mr Magoo 2019 (only seen a few episodes) and added these tropes, but am uncertain if I've used them correctly:
I wasn't sure if I've used some of them correctly or if they need expansion.
I've included Minion with an F in Evil but aren't certain if that's correct, and as for Pro Wrestling Episode, should it br another trope?
Edited by Merseyuser1 on Apr 24th 2019 at 12:16:44 PM
Re: Manic Pixie Dream Girl asked here
I don't think she fits either. It doesn't hit other defining features of the trope, at least they're not mentioned in the description.
~Merseyuser 1, you seem to have problems with Zero-Context Example (or poorly explained, half-context examples, at any rate).
Also, the page needs to be indexed. See How Indexing Works.
If I remember correctly, you've been told once before that checking a large amount of examples posted at once in one huge post is time-consuming for others, especially without your reasoning why you think the tropes might or might not apply.
Edited by XFllo on Apr 25th 2019 at 10:41:24 AM
Case in point:
Seeing the trend thus far?
Is Trope 2000 for any title with any number that's within 1 digit of a millenium?
Or just 2000?
'Cause it seems like Film.Two Thousand One A Space Odyssey and it's book might count, if the broader definition is used...
I'm not sure if 2001 qualifies, because it's literally about the year 2001. It's not just a number arbitrarily tacked on.
Trope 2000 is not about the year, it's about "2000" or similar multiple of 10^3 being tacked onto a name arbitrarily to make it seem cooler. The work being set in the designated year doesn't automatically exclude it from the trope, but if the year is significant to the story instead of being an afterthought, it's probably not an example.
When 2001 was written, it was imagined that we might have spaceships able to go to Jupiter (or Saturn) in that year. Obviously, we don't, but it wasn't a crass exploitation of the title to goose sales.
On the other hand, the "Jumbotron 2000" large-format television probably has nothing to do with the year 2000 and its name is just a marketing gimmick.
Edited by Fighteer on Apr 24th 2019 at 4:49:26 AM
So, would Anime.Pokemon 2000 count for Trope 2000, due to its title being an Annual Title?
Edited by Malady on Apr 24th 2019 at 3:45:08 AM
Is there precedent for declaring that Trope 2000 instead of Annual Title, or in addition to?
Well, it seems to have been there from the start... There's no context other than it being an Annual Title.
Trope 2000 is about adding the 2000 to technology to make it seem cool, snazzy, or futuristic. It's unclear to me whether that title is an Annual Title or not, but I would lean towards Annual Title over Trope 2000.
Does Spell My Name with an "S" include characters with punctuation in their name? Like K.O. and KO, for instance.
- Its only context was "It was released in 2000", a.k.a, it's named after the release year. a.k.a it's an Annual Title.
Edited by Malady on Apr 25th 2019 at 5:12:24 AM
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