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I think the characters themselves have to shift.
Edit@ From YMMV.The Rising Of The Shield Hero
Wangst: Naofumi's bitterness and cynicism can come across as this for some viewers who find him more of a Designated Hero due to his one track mind.
Does this still count even though he was falsely accused of rape and gets treated by dirt by a large portion of people? Wouldn't that justify him being cynical and Bitterness?
Edited by WhirlRX on Apr 19th 2019 at 9:53:41 AM
Troper smasll_lordvoice added the Hilarious in Hindsight entry back to the YMMV page of Superman: Grounded, even though it had been previously agreed that this entry didn't meet the trope's requirements. This edit has no justification whatsoever, it's merely blank. What should we do?
I already did. I'm still waiting for an answer.
Edited by MasterHero on Apr 19th 2019 at 1:28:40 AM
Report it in Ask The Tropers.
Should Eclipsed by the Remix apply to Nightcore? From what I've seen, a lot of nightcore videos are more popular than the original song's videos, but I don't know if that translates to actual popularity.
I say on a case-by-case basis. One valid example I know of is "Rockefeller Street" by Getter Jaani.
From VideoGame.Shin Sakura Wars:
Are those Call-Back or Internal Homage examples?
Edited by gjjones on Apr 22nd 2019 at 12:44:44 PM
Marco's entry on Ambiguous Gender Identity keeps on being edited to be less and less ambiguously trans than before.
Just this month:
It's been edited down so much that I don't think it even counts as Ambiguous Gender Identity anymore. Should it be removed?
I think the first one might be the best version. I mean, the show still has Marco being referred to as male but still not above feminine endeavors
This is Zero Context, right?
YMMV.This Perfect Day:
I think the note in the second one about the series creator might be worth integrating with it.
Yes, because it doesn't explain what about the rape is dissonant to anyone's values.
Edited by sgamer82 on Apr 20th 2019 at 7:44:55 AM
Does anyone know if this example would count as Late-Arrival Spoiler or Spoiled by the Merchandise (I'm assuming Late-Arrival Spoiler judging from the page image)? The DVD cover for volume 11 of the animated adaption of Persona 5 happens to be reversible and as such spoils a pretty big reveal about a certain character, both variants said cover were revealed at the same time. This also happens to be a major reveal that was spoiled before the game even came out due to datamining of the game's preloads.
I think the second one.
How similar do Recycled In Space examples have to be?
These series really aren't that similar aside from being xenofiction.
Edited by Pichu-kun on Apr 20th 2019 at 2:23:22 AM
Can non-music works be listed under Non-Appearing Title as long as the title never appears either as the name of anything within the work or in a line of dialogue?
From YMMV.Devil May Cry 5.
Would this still count even though both Dante and Nero got their a$$ handed to them during the beginning by Urizan. Nero was the first to get a legit hit on him in story only after getting his Devin Breaker. And even thst wasn't enough. Its not until Dante gets his Sin Devil Trigger thay he becomes just as powerful as Urizan.
I think the Memetic Loser section of YMMV.Super Smash Bros. Ultimate could use a look, since every character from the represented series who was Demoted to Extra or was ever the butt of a few jokes is being listed here. I also feel people are using this to sneak in complaints about certain characters not being made playable, particularly Ashley's and Viridi's examples.
Regarding Shana Clone, need a character have all of the traits listed in the trope page, or are they optional as long as most of the traits apply?
Relevant example: One-Punch Man: S-Class Heroes lists Tatsumaki as a Shana Clone, but she fails to meet the criteria of having at least waist length hair and being either the female lead or the primary love interest.
Edited by Eagal on Apr 20th 2019 at 6:23:05 AM
re: Recycled In Space
having only read like 0.5 Warrior Cats and none of the others, I admit I don't know how similar they actually are, but the immediate first impression of Survivor Dogs is definitely "this is Warrior Cats for dog people".
And entries for Sonic and Cloud we're just added which come off as complain-y and speculative in Sonic's case.
I'm fairly sure that this is some sort of Bat Deduction, but I'm not sure specifically what it'd be. Is it an inverted Bat Deduction?
"Inverted in Touch Detective 3. Inspector Daria and Mackenize are stumped as to why someone has been going around stealing nothing but bananas. Daria "reasons" that the only kind of person who would steal people's bananas is someone who doesn't respect banana lovers, and as a sentient being made out of bananas would, by definition, be a banana lover, the thief's objective is absolutely NOT to make a sentient Banana-Man out of their stolen bananas. This is absolutely the thief's objective."
Edited by godsareus on Apr 21st 2019 at 12:30:28 PM
The Sonic and Cloud examples sounds like complaining. I would probably cut them. I have mixed feelings about including Banjo + Kazooie, since they've never appeared in Smash.
x10 would anyone know if this example should go in the Anime & Manga section or Video Games, since it's a spoiler shared between both mediums. I feel with how widespread it is it should be added to Late-Arrival Spoiler, especially with how easily someone looking up the animated adaptation could come upon the images of both cover variants.
Edit: Going to have to go with Late-Arrival Spoiler on this, since from what I can tell Spoiled By The Merchandise is for spoilers via merchandise before something is released.
Edited by Metaverse on Apr 21st 2019 at 3:31:05 AM
In the Sakura Wars series, there are certain scenes where Ogami or Taiga enter the baths at the player's discretion and he laments "my body is moving on its own toward the baths," knowing that it won't end well. Would that count as a true This Is Gonna Suck moment?
Edited by gjjones on Apr 21st 2019 at 11:03:40 AM
In Another Code: Two Memories (the game is called Trace Memory in North America) Ashley asks the guy pretending to be her father about her mother's murder. If the player has, without any prompting at all, gone out of their way to take a photo of the newspaper article about the murder using the in-game camera, the scene is altered slightly: instead of just telling her supposed father that she saw an article, she instead shows him the photo you took and asks about the article in the photo.
Would this count for a Developers' Foresight example?
I can't really say Survivors is "Warriors, but for dog people". It's written completely differently and has a different plot. If anything it's "Watership Down, for dog people".
I'm trying to figure out if this fits under Chaotic Neutral or not.
From "The Ninjas":
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