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I guess Gio technically would be one.
I would say it's a zig-zagged case. While they are the children of a vampire father (or head attached to a partially incompatible body) and human women, they display no vampiric qualities as seen earlier in the franchise.
That said, Giorno has said WRRRYYYYY a couple of times (against Ghiaccio in the anime and Cioccolata in the manga), though it could be just a parental thing, as with "muda" as Kiai. The part 7/8 timeline has no vampires, but the WRRRYYYYY comes up at least twice, one character being an alternate Dio and the other not so much.
In Sakura Wars 3: Is Paris Burning?, Lobelia Carlini is an Italian-Romanian criminal. Because of her Romani ancestry and her nomadic lifestyle since she lost her parents, she is referred to as a gypsy, which is how the Romani were called back in the 1920s.
Does that count as Deliberate Values Dissonance?
Sort of, in that "gypsy" is considered a slur in modern times. However, a lot of people don't realize how offensive the term can be.
I added this to AudioPlay.Big Finish Doctor Who, but have I used the trope correctly:
I also added this to Non-Serial Movie under Live Action TV:
Edited by Merseyuser1 on Apr 18th 2019 at 5:27:31 PM
I added a Fair for Its Day example on YMMV.The Hunch Back Of Notre Dame, but Hopeshalllive deleted it without giving a reason why. I asked them via notes, and they said it was because the story is set in Medieval times, and thus the example doesn't qualify.
I'm just wondering, is there a rule for Fair for Its Day that it doesn't qualify for works set years before they were made? Because I didn't see that anywhere on the trope page.
Edited by MrMediaGuy2 on Apr 18th 2019 at 12:13:10 PM
Deleting the entry with a disregard for when the work itself was made is erroneous. That it is set in Medieval times has no bearing on the work's own production date. Fair for Its Day talks about the applicability of the work based on its release era compared to now, not the setting it is based on. Hopeshalllive is in the wrong here.
Should I make a cleanup thread for Author's Saving Throw? As it stands, a lot of video game YMMV pages have tropers add entries under AST that have nothing to do with the game's narrative, but rather gameplay changes and QoL tweaks. And that's not getting started with unreleased works that have AST as predictions for a previous game's failures.
This was re-added to Characters.Black Clover Main Characters a few days ago:
Since those examples count as mis-use, I had to remove it. The troper in question who added it in, Beerusuo Hakaioshin, said that the trope is about anger and to what provokes the character. Thoughts?
Edited by gjjones on Apr 18th 2019 at 5:25:41 AM
This example has been added to Insane Troll Logic:
The example also got added to Conviction by Contradiction where I believe it definitely would qualify as an example. But I'm not so sure about Insane Troll Logic. Would this qualify or no? Just to add some context to the situation within the game where this happens, Cole is specifically investigating a car crash, and both the person he's talking to and their friend were car crash victims. Cole specifically asks her to describe the passenger who was in the car with her, and she responds by giving the normal general description you would give to a question like that (the passenger's name, what kind of person the passenger is, and how bad the crash has been on her). This is when the player is expected to make Cole accuse her of hiding the fact that the passenger was raped because she didn't mention it. IMO I think it's safe to say that it's a pretty ludicrous leap of logic, but what would it be Insane Troll Logic, specifically?
Edited by BakerGoods on Apr 18th 2019 at 2:41:09 AM
See the disclaimer: This is not about anger in response to something that would reasonably enrage someone. Key word being "reasonably".
Gj@Those aren't example. I honestly think the trope need a name change to be more clear.
I'm under the impression that Insane Troll Logic requires that the logic be acknowledged as insane and nonsensical In-Universe. If the example is accusing the writers of invoking Insane Troll Logic in the solution of one of the game's puzzles, that comes mighty close to being a real-life example, and ITL asks for No Real Life Examples, Please!.
Perhaps Violation of Common Sense or That One Puzzle would be a better spot for that example.
x6 — I'm not sure if a cleanup thread is in order, or if we should just expand the definition of Author's Saving Throw to include technical details like this. Maybe a subtrope?
I... Don't have any words for this. Do Moon Logic Puzzle examples really need that much detail?
Thats too much detail to the point it he TLDR. Also,i think its wrong.
I usually reserve this statement for YMMV entries, but be wary of entries you have to scroll through.
Edited by sgamer82 on Apr 18th 2019 at 5:36:49 AM
For what it's worth, the user who added these LA Noire examples also made an incredibly blatant troll post in ATT, so I have serious doubts about whether their edits were meant to be for the good of the wiki.
x5 That's the issue I'm willing to bring up. Either Author's Saving Throw gets its definition broadened to beyond narrative changes, or it stays like that and we zap anything that strays from the definition with extreme prejudice.
I'm not in favor of broadening the definition, since many of those "gameplay changes" entries that I deleted were complainy and sometimes bash on the creator.
Edited by AnoBakaDesu on Apr 18th 2019 at 8:00:30 AM
Is Spy's Suspicious Spouse, a subtrope of Mistaken for Cheating like the description says, or is it just a spy's spouse finding their behavior suspicious in general, and leading them in directions to find out that they're a spy?
'Cause I just made this in Fanfic.Oversaturated World, but not sure whether to crosswick or not...
Then there's the trope page having this:
Edited by Malady on Apr 18th 2019 at 7:47:15 AM
Is this an example of a Medium-Shift Gag? The comic is normally drawn.
I don't think so since the live action ant is taken from an actual movie.
I kinda want to salvage some of those LA Noire writeups, because if nothing else they do a good job of conveying how counterintuitive the solutions are to someone (like me) who knows nothing about the game. That said, in their current they're borderline-unreadable pure angry ranting.
- Burn all adjectives. Then you should be left with nearly pure facts?
What about this? Is that a Medium-Shift Gag?
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