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I remember there being confusion over Bubblegum (hence why she was on Ambiguously Gay and Ambiguously Bi at different points), but the intended idea is likely that she's bisexual. It's never stated but there's no canonical reason to think otherwise.
The Amazing Spider-Man Series:
I'm leaning to cut the diviviseness was not clearly do to fans and critics praising it, at least the one's it mentioned didn't effect US fans to my knowledge. (Was it released in full early overseas? Otherwise it doesn't count since it's just a preview.) Thoughts?
Based on the write-up, I'd delete it. More context would be needed. I also think that "mixed reviews" and "divided opinions" do not equal "hype backlash". "Various audiences have various reactions" is not Hype Backlash either.
Pichu@She did had a boyfriend in the past and she with Marceline. Though, it may seem she was largely into women.
Reposting from the previous page:
Given how often Critical Research Failure is misused on this wiki, can I get confirmation as to whether or not the following examples from The Dom Reviews are being used correctly?:
Reposting from the previous pages:
I'm thinking about adding some tropes regarding Vanessa and the Witch Queen from Black Clover:
Thoughts about this?
Also, in Trivia.James And The Giant Peach, is the following What Could Have Been entry regarding Toots and the Upside Down House relevant enough to be kept?
Not sure if this is the place to ask this, but is it okay to list Fan Works right in a work's description?
Awful Hospital's description lists four different fan works, only one of which has its own page.
I know that There Is No Such Thing as Notability, but three out of those four fan works were abandoned, and one of those three — The Watchtower — looks like it barely even got started, and was only added by its creator to self-promote. Is it really worth listing those ones, even if this is allowed?
Edited by Primis on Jan 9th 2019 at 9:43:58 AM
No, fan works don't get troped on the page of the work that inspired them. They get their own page.
Alright, I cut that section.
From Failure Is the Only Option, does this count?
It's a failure-ish in the minds of the audience, and the player, but is it a failure according to the game? The Reapers are still destroyed...
A Pyrrhic Victory, is still a victory?
Failure Is the Only Option is about works whose status quos can only be maintained by the protagonists failing at their long-term goals. It has nothing to do with whether a victory "counts" or not.
I say cut it.
From YMMV.Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney: Spirit Of Justice:
From my understanding, Darkness-Induced Audience Apathy is for works where the world is dark and both sides of the conflict are equally bad, or things are too hopeless for the good guys meaning the world would still suck by the end of it. While the tone may get darker than previous Ace Attorney games, the tone is still optimistic and the heroes still always win in the end.
Scooby-Doo sounds more like Alternate Aesop Interpretation, doesn't explain why it's broken. "Changeling", ignores they were being judged for their past actions not their appearances, is that More Clueless Aesop. Thoughts?
Edited by Ferot_Dreadnaught on Jan 10th 2019 at 12:34:31 PM
Is this really You Are Not Alone?
Works based on other works are never troped on the source work, regardless of if the source work is original or fanwork.
Works are always troped on their own pages.
As the Duck said, only official derivatives are allowed to exist on the primary work page. A fanwork is, by definition, not officially authorized. You may, however, index such pages on FanWorks.Primary Work Title, regardless of medium.
- So, this Failure Is the Only Option wick, from Characters.Mass Effect Commander Shepard:
It's wrong? It'd be more Unwinnable of some kind, or something, because there's no status quo to change?
Also, the first Failure Is the Only Option Video Game entry:
It doesn't count because it's not referencing some kind of Status Quo?
But we have Status Quo Is God, and Laconic.Failure Is The Only Option is saying: You will always fail at achieving the Series Goal, because succeeding will end the story.
But, Laconics are usually not right? But the description doesn't mention Status Quo either...
Recent Unwinnable by Design entry that was added:
Sounds more Unwinnable by Mistake, or Insanity? Both, because the latter is YMMV? Or is it just Guide Dang It!?
Edited by Malady on Jan 10th 2019 at 7:52:36 AM
Almost enough questions for a dedicated Trope Talk thread here ...
I don't think Failure Is the Only Option counts for just any plot-mandated failure. Every story in existence requires the protagonist to fail at some point. Consistent failure at the same long-term goal is the key here.
The Series Goal of Mass Effect was defeating the Reapers. It would be Failure Is the Only Option if Shepard and co. consistently failed to defeat them, but that's not what happened. Several Reapers are taken down over the course of the trilogy, including in the very first game. All three games end with Shepard and co. victorious.
Unwinnable means you literally cannot win the actual game. It has nothing to do with plot or character.
That Unwinnable by Design entry is valid, in my opinion. It would also fit Guide Dang It!. Unwinnable by Insanity is deliberate by the player.
Something I want to clarify: Fan Works were not actually being troped on Awful Hospital's page. It was just a list with external links. Here's the exact text that I deleted:
Edited by crazysamaritan on Jan 10th 2019 at 4:10:16 AM
Is this Hype Backlash?
used near the very end of the episode, and not being sung in the series itself despite the singer being the same person voicing Stevonnie.
What that even mean? The song was feature in the show itself. I say delete.
Edited by WhirlRX on Jan 10th 2019 at 8:27:03 AM
Deleted. Would also like some feedback on the You Are Not Alone examples I posted x10.
AuthorsSavingThrow.Duck Tales 2017 has a lot of "maybe" examples and I'm not sure if the valid examples are enough to give it its own page.
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