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- Make sure that the example makes sense to both people who don't know the work AND don't know the trope.
- Wrong: The Mentor: Kevin is this to Bob in the first episode.
- Right: The Mentor: Kevin takes Bob under his wing in the first episode and teaches him the ropes of being a were-chinchilla.
- Never just put the trope title and leave it at that.
- Wrong: Badass Adorable
- Right: Badass Adorable: Xavier, the group's cute little mascot, defeats three raging elephants with both hands tied behind his back using only an uncooked spaghetti noodle.
- When is normally far less important than How.
- A character name is not an explanation.
- Wrong: Full Moon Silhouette: Diana
- Right: Full Moon Silhouette: At the end of her transformation sequence into Moon Princess Misty, Diana is shown flying across the full moon riding a rutabaga.
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Edited by Synchronicity on Sep 18th 2023 at 11:42:55 AM
Mountain King@ I say delete.
No, the other one.
I don't think that Hercules example would hit the radar, nor that it's an attempt at getting something past the radar, so no Getting Crap Past the Radar.
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Well, she was attack by Nessus who in mythology did try to rape Hercules wife. And centaurs are known for their violent nature.
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I think the Hercules example is trying to imply rape, which the censors would've forbidden if it was too blatant. I think it counts for Getting Crap Past the Radar, but not Rape as Backstory (because it isn't made explicit).
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- Any trope can be Implied, though?
How much can I stretch Corruption of a Minor? General corruption to general evil is fine?
Fanfic.Dungeon Keeper Ami: People fear that Ami is corrupting the children in her care to evil.
Edited by Malady on Oct 10th 2018 at 7:09:55 AM
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Does this count as Art Shift? On Recap.OKKO Lets Be Heroes S 2 E 18 Crossover Nexus.
- Ben and Raven are drawn and animated differently from their respective shows. Averted with K.O. and Garnet, since both of their shows share a person that worked on them.
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What's your point?
Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
- So, isn't Rape as Backstory then Implied, and therefore valid? Or is it too ambiguous?
I think even calling it implied is a massive stretch.
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Rape as Backstory isn't just "off-screen rape". It requires an explicit or implicit link between the trauma and the character's backstory. Given that Megara appears to be Hades's go-to suductress, I'm not convinced there is a link between rape and her personality.
There needs to be a connection made between that act and their personality. In Hercules, the rape is implied, but given her deceptive personality, I don't see a strong enough link between her pessimism/misongony/angst and the trauma of rape. Further material gives a different justification for her personality.
Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
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In The Loud House episode "One Flu Over the Loud House", the healthy siblings were trying to escape the sick siblings and they were trying to keep them out of the way by squirting them with squirt guns full of chicken soup. Is it an example of Soup Is Medicine? I can't tell, even though I wrote the trope. On the one hand, chicken soup + sick people. On the other hand, they're not really "taking care" of them.
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A parodied example, maybe.
Trouble Cube continues to be a general-purpose forum for those who desire such a thing.
Character: Coco Adel from RWBY
This character used to be troped as The Fashionista. Someone just rewrote the example, pointing out that Action Fashionista is more appropriate given that she's a fighter. I rewrote the example because it had grammar issues and then read the trope description.
The fashionista tropes require regular wardrobe changes that are not for plot-related reasons. The school students have two costumes in the work: their school uniform and their signature battle costume; although there have been occasional plot-significant costume changes here and there, there is no example of non-plot costume changing. Coco has only ever been seen in her signature costume — not even in a school uniform — so she has no costume changes, and certainly not the regular wardrobe change that the trope requires.
So, my question is this: is there a trope that the following example can fit to salvage it? Or should it be scrubbed entirely?
She does have a Girly Bruiser entry that is practically a Zero-Context Example. I'm not sure if Girly Bruiser genuinely applies to her, because I'm not sure we know enough about her personality. I'm thinking that, if it does, perhaps rewriting the Action Fashionista entry to fit the Girly Bruiser trope might be the best option, thereby killing two birds with one stone (save the example and fix the Girly Bruiser entry). What do you think?
- Girly Bruiser: Likes clothes? Check. Hates it when said clothes or the places she acquires them are destroyed? Check. Fights with a big honking minigun? Check.
- Action Fashionista: Although she's training to become a Huntress that protects humanity by fighting the monstrous Grimm they share the world with, Coco dresses very fashionably. She wears a beret and sunglasses at all times, even into battle, and her weapon is designed to look like a satchel that blends in with her clothing choices. The ammunition for her mini-gun is incorporated into her sense of fashion, becoming part of her belts and satchel strap. When the Grimm invade Vale at the end of Volume 2, she informs an Ursa that it should prepare to die because it has destroyed her favourite clothing store. During the tournament, she initially compliments Emerald's gunslinger style of fashion; however, when Emerald later smashes Coco's sunglasses, Coco completely changes her mind about liking Emerald. Her fans in the tournament stands reveal their preferences by wearing berets of the same style she chooses, strongly indicating that her reputation among tournament fans is based equally on her combat skills and her sense of fashion.
Edited by Wyldchyld on Oct 12th 2018 at 7:03:04 PM
If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
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I didn't post the Rape as Backstory example but I reposted it on Disney's Getting Crap Past the Radar page. That should be deleted then, right?
Can a rumor of something in an upcoming episode count under Urban Legends or is that just a false rumor (or maybe even incorrect speculation)?
Lost in Space
Rumors do not make urban legends unless they are passed down for a long time and become part of the culture.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Isn't that Urban Legend of Zelda?
No. That trope is exclusively about hidden content in video games.
Dont you mean non existing video game content?
Since Silver And Black has been cancelled, isn't the whole YMMV.Silver And Black page pointless.
Also From Trivia.DC Animated Movie Universe
- Unintentional Period Piece: The heavy New 52 influence of the interconnected movies starting with Justice League: War has led to this with DC Rebirth currently in the process of undoing that era of DC Comics. This extends as far as Suicide Squad: Hell to Pay, released two years into the Rebirth era but still with a New 52 portrayal of Amanda Waller.
Does it count if it's not about cultural references?
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I was talking about fandom urban legends rather than cultural ones.
Why is Shotgun Wedding a Forgotten Trope and not a Dead Horse Trope? Same with 30 Minutes, or It's Free!?
Shouldn't that entire page be deleted?
Lord of the Blue Star
Is Turned Against Their Masters strictly a robot trope? I was thinking of a Justice League episode when the characters end up in the alternate world and there is the Justice Guild who are re-creations of the originals by a man-child with incredible mental powers. They turn against the one who gave them life again to save the world from him.
This was deleted in YMMV.My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic S 8 E 20 The Washouts despite this thread approving it when I brought it up:
- Moral Event Horizon: Lightning Dust pressuring Scootaloo into a potentially lethal stunt, especially if, given the above, she was deliberately trying to get her hurt or killed to get back at Rainbow.
They gave https://twitter.com/TheBiggestJim/status/1025810726814797825 as a reason, Word of God that Lightning could be redeemed if the writers wanted to.
Edited by Ferot_Dreadnaught on Oct 13th 2018 at 3:35:44 AM
No, the other one.
If they can be redeemed, at all, they're disqualified from Moral Event Horizon.
I don't think it's strictly a robot trope, as it describes itself as being about artificial beings, which can be biological. I'm not sure how pets or slaves count, but there are examples of those on the page.
Depends on what's there. We do trope unpublished works if there's enough information about them to trope them on it. However, that only goes for the material that's actually there, and not what was planned to be (unless it's a trope specifically about could've beens).
Getting Crap Past the Radar? Yes. Rape as Backstory? Kill It with Fire!
Also needs more context.
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