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TheMountainKing Since: Jul, 2016
#5901: Jul 24th 2018 at 11:33:21 AM

[up] I don't think so. I've seen those tropes used for sequels, so I think it's just in relation to any other part of the franchise.

Pichu-kun ... Since: Jan, 2001
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#5902: Jul 24th 2018 at 3:06:22 PM

On the Speculative Biology example from last page, Speculative Biology already has fantasy examples. There seems to be overlap between it and Fantastic Science.

Anywho, would Blake being secretly rich (and having parents) in RWBY count as a Retcon? I've seen it called that elsewhere but I'm reluctant to list it. The first three seasons never technically said she was an orphan, however it certainly looked like it was. That would probably be a twist, not a retcon, then?

Edited by Pichu-kun on Jul 27th 2018 at 3:46:38 AM

AegisP Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man
#5903: Jul 24th 2018 at 4:17:13 PM

There are rich orphans you know?

As long as this flower is in my heart. My Strength will flow without end.
WhirlRX Since: Jan, 2015
#5904: Jul 24th 2018 at 4:27:02 PM

[up][up] I wouldn't call it a retcon since her past was shrouded in mystery.

TheMountainKing Since: Jul, 2016
#5905: Jul 24th 2018 at 5:52:14 PM

From YMMV.The Legend Of Korra Turf Wars

  • They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot:
    • As of Part 1, each nation's view of queerness boils down to a basic pro or anti view that even Word of God admits was a bit brief and hopes to expand later on feeding suspicion that he's Writing By The Seat of His Pants. The Air Nation was Too Good for This Sinful Earth in being open to all orientations, the Fire Naton used to be the same before mean ol' Sozin came along for unexplained reasons, the Water Tribe's DADT and the Earth Kingdom was too stubborn and militaristic to be more progressive. Although the present state of the world views have yet to be elaborated on, there's yet to be anything more nuanced like in real world cultures such as the Grecian Sacred Band of Thebes, Ancient Rome, Laotong and the obvious nuances of bisexuality, such as biphobia even from gay people.
I feel like this verges on the "rewriting the entire plot" form of misuse, but I'm not quite sure. It also reads like a complaint and borderline rant. From the same page:
  • Tainted by the Preview: When the preview pages were leaked, many were not happy with a certain page retconning characters from the original series (for example, revealing Fire Lord Sozin setting up an anti-gay law or Avatar Kyoshi being bi, despite this never being mentioned or even hinted at back when The Last Airbender was a thingnote ), causing them to write the comic off as fanfiction.note 

This one is purely technical: Can it qualify if the backlash was for a leak, not a deliberate piece of promotional material?

Edited by TheMountainKing on Jul 24th 2018 at 10:20:40 AM

Malady (X-Troper)
#5906: Jul 24th 2018 at 8:08:08 PM

Could King Incognito be applied to a Big Bad hiding in the commoners?

If that's actually right, then Laconic.King Incognito is wrong, and needs to be changed...

If that's something else, what is it?

Edited by Malady on Jul 24th 2018 at 8:13:45 AM

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nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#5907: Jul 24th 2018 at 8:13:27 PM

[up][up]All "examples" of They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot are basically random people rewriting a plot, really. I mean, I'd favor cutting that just as a stopgap measure, but the page as a whole really needs attention more than a few individual examples.

Edited by nrjxll on Jul 24th 2018 at 10:14:08 AM

Anddrix Since: Oct, 2014
#5908: Jul 25th 2018 at 2:33:10 AM

Reposting from the previous page, so it doesn't get lost:

Are the following examples being used correctly?:

From Digimon: The Movie:

  • Anti-Climax: As noted by the Nostalgia Critic, the last third of the movie comes across as extremely anticlimactic. The segment that adapts Our War Game culminates in a full-scale battle against an army of Diablomon, with the protagonists desperately trying to prevent a nuclear missile from exploding. It is then followed by the adaptation of Hurricane Touchdown, which mostly revolves around the 02 children traveling across America, cracking several jokes and attempting to save a single Digimon.

From Mega Man: Fully Charged:

  • Uncanny Valley: The art style, particularly with Mega Man's face, is a mix of cartoony and too-realistic and the end result looks off.

Also when troping adaptations of a work, Media Adaptation Tropes should be written so that a work is being compared to its source material, correct? So would these examples from Rise of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles count as misuse as they’re comparing the work to Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2012) which is a different adaptation of the same source material:

  • Denser and Wackier: The mutants in this series are much less visceral than the 2012 incarnations, being more humanoid and with even more supervillain-esque gimmicks.
  • Lighter and Softer: Compared to the 2012 series, this show will focus less on narrative and be more humor-oriented.

Elfkaiser Since: May, 2013
#5909: Jul 25th 2018 at 6:18:07 AM

[up]On Digimon: The Movie:

Don't think Anti-Climax is being used properly at least from what I understand. Since the whole thing is a Compilation Movie combining three different shorter movies, it's understandable that there is some jarringness when transitioning from the second part to the third one. That said, the third part actually does have a climax. Whether or not it perfectly fits as the climax for the whole Compilation Movie might be subjective.

Not sure if this is an adequate answer you're looking for though.

On Mega Man: Fully Charged:

Uncanny Valley maybe a bit much. From what I've seen of the show so far such as the trailer, it's actually not that realistic looking to be considered remotely Uncanny Valley. The artstyle maybe anime inspired and cartoony but definitely not "a mix of cartoony and too-realistic" visuals. It could be best compared to the artstyle of Mega Man Legends or of Mighty No. 9.

Based on the number of dislikes on the trailer and what little I know so far about the show's reception, the entry may have been added prematurely and not in good spirit.

[up][up][up]A Big Bad can be an evil king, an evil aristocrat, and etc. So applying King Incognito to the Big Bad doesn't change the trope's laconic I believe provided they fit the definition.

Edited by Elfkaiser on Jul 25th 2018 at 9:02:59 AM

TheMountainKing Since: Jul, 2016
#5910: Jul 25th 2018 at 12:46:52 PM

[up]x5 So, I've got one vote for cutting the Perfectly Good Plot entry. Any objections?

Also would still appreciate clarification on Tainted by the Preview.

Malady (X-Troper)
#5911: Jul 25th 2018 at 2:22:29 PM

Would calling an enemy, a little girl, even if she is a minor, being an example of Your Little Dismissive Diminutive?

Or not, because that trope needs a possessive, like "Your"?

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Unicorndance Logic Girl from Thames, N.Z. Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Logic Girl
#5912: Jul 25th 2018 at 7:57:08 PM

I found two episodes of Little Princess that have what might be examples of Radish Cure but I'm not sure:

  • In "I Want Two Birthdays", the princess wants every day to be her birthday and is allowed but eventually wants only one birthday. The reason why it might not be an example is because 1.) Was it deliberate or were the adults just spoiling her? 2.) She doesn't get bored of birthdays, she just gets bored of the extra birthdays because the presents are no good.
  • In "I Want Baked Beans", the Princess wants only baked beans and so they only feed her baked beans, but then she gets bored of them. However, the adults say, "Why didn't you ask?", which suggests that it wasn't deliberate.

For every low there is a high.
WhirlRX Since: Jan, 2015
#5913: Jul 25th 2018 at 8:36:00 PM

Mountain King@ I would removed the Wasted plot. Also, on Tainted Preview, I wouldn't call these Retcon as there's nothing being retcon as it's just new info.

Ferot_Dreadnaught Since: Mar, 2015
#5914: Jul 25th 2018 at 11:35:16 PM

About Anitclimax, If it's a reviewer making the claim, that's YMMV which this trope is not. I've seem many Anitclimax examples listed under Moment of Awesome page, we're confusing one-sided or poorly done climaxes for lack of them. I'd say cut any that are not intentional.

From YMMV.Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom

  • Unintentionally Unsympathetic: Regardless of her motivations or circumstances, Maisie has been a particularly sore point among critics and fans alike for her decision to release all of the dinosaurs onto the mainland, thus becoming the main instigator for what is arguably the end of the human species as we know it.

This fails to explain why it's unintentional and the protagonists struggling with that decisions shows it was intentionally morally grey. And it admits the consequences are arguable (are their enough dinosaurs to make a valid breeding population?). Thoughts?

Anddrix Since: Oct, 2014
#5915: Jul 26th 2018 at 4:41:15 AM

Are the following examples being used correctly?:

From She-Ra and the Princesses of Power:

  • Internet Backdraft: In addition to the design being perceived as masculine (read: "androgynous"), people complain that She-Ra is "ruined" because of the Adaptational Modesty particularly blaming both on "social justice warriors". This, in turn, has led to a backlash against the backlash and accusations on the creepiness of trying to keep She-Ra Stripperiffic for a children's cartoon, flaring the conflict further and causing a backlash against the backlash against the backlash, where the first side accuses the other of "dragging She-Ra to this decade's culture wars". The flame volleyball around this issue is bad enough that Rule Of Cautious Editing Judgement should be applied on this one, obviously. And then there's the inevitable third camp, who has some criticisms of the designs, but think the "too masculine" ones that have become the most prominent are hyperbolic and baseless. There is also a fourth side, who didn't approve of She-Ra's appearance, but want to watch the show regardless of this due to how promising it looks.

From Batman (Rebirth):

  • Critical Dissonance: Batman #50. Reviewers who had read the issue in full before being spoiled had a lot of praise for the writing and delivery of the story. Meanwhile, fans who had been spoiled by the NY Times article were far more cynical.
  • Memetic Mutation:
    • "Kite Man. Hell yeah.", Kite-man's catchphrase gained popularity as he ascended to Ensemble Dark Horse, in part because of its tragic story. Nowadays it's not uncommon to see Kite-Man related comments on the internet without someone else replying "Hell Yeah".
    • "Knightfall of the Heart" or "Knightfall 2: Emotional Boogaloo", in reference to King's interview in which he explains that he's setting up a spiritual sequel/homage to the original Knightfall, this time with Bane wanting to emotionally break Batman, and doing so by manipulating an unwitting Catwoman into leaving him at the altar.

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#5916: Jul 26th 2018 at 5:43:51 AM

[up] The Internet Backdraft example looks valid as written. The Critical Dissonance example needs a bit more explanatory punch. The Memetic Mutation examples correctly explain the context, so seem valid also.

I'd like to remind posters here that if you think an example may not be valid, please explain your thoughts. Don't just drop examples and expect other people to pick up the necessary context from scratch.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#5917: Jul 26th 2018 at 12:47:07 PM

So I made a discussion thread covering the various issues I have with the page, but I figured that one of the issues with Age-Inappropriate Art can be answered here.

Specifically, does something qualify as Age-Inappropriate Art if said art is censored?

For example, one example from AgeInappropriateArt.Kidz Bop is

  • "Kidz Bop once covered Gwen Stefani’s “Hollaback Girl”, a song with the word “shit” repeated throughout."

Setting aside how much some people care about Kidz Bop on this site, is it still Age-Inappropriate Art if the song is bowdlerized to not have the inappropriate thing in it anymore?

Edited by Larkmarn on Jul 26th 2018 at 3:47:27 PM

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Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#5918: Jul 26th 2018 at 3:17:51 PM

I wouldn't say so. Censorship means a deliberate effort was made to make the art in question age-appropriate, defying the trope. Now, one could argue that the censorship was insufficient, or the source material so fundamentally inappropriate that no amount of censorship would sanitize it for the widdle kiddies, but that hasn't been demonstrated in the example in question.

Edited by Fighteer on Jul 26th 2018 at 6:18:11 AM

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
TheMountainKing Since: Jul, 2016
#5919: Jul 26th 2018 at 4:13:27 PM

[up] Agree. There are examples on that page that do fit, where the censors either missed something or the original adult subtext is still present, but the original having curse words that this version removed isn't enough.

Edited by TheMountainKing on Jul 26th 2018 at 7:13:44 AM

Elfkaiser Since: May, 2013
#5920: Jul 26th 2018 at 6:40:45 PM

Thought this matter with an edit of Troper heartshiningg was settled until I saw they just gave me a recent PM continuing the matter.

So reposting this here again:


Been asking a certain matter over at Ask The Tropers for some time and eventually got sent here. I guess I should've started here but I wasn't sure if this matter was the appropriate place.

In any case, I've been having some PM discussions with Troper heartshiningg over a recent edit of theirs in the Demon Clan page of the The Seven Deadly Sins rather than start an edit war. I still feel though that some others' opinions might help things out.


Their original edit was this:

  • Who Wants to Live Forever?: Downplayed. Vampires are not immortal however they do have a long life-span. That said, with Zeldris no longer being around, Gelda finds no purpose in her vampire life and has grown weary which leads her to ask Meliodas to put her out of her misery.

Amongst other edits, I changed the original line to this:

And I gave this reason:

Some rewrites based on what's known/revealed up to now. Don't think downplayed is being used correctly in Who Wants To Live Forever. Also the line of the vampires being not immortal but just have long lifespans doesn't seem correct based on lore unless I missed a Q&A.

They reedited the line to make it somewhat similar to their original one:

And gave this reason:

Don't know why downplayed was takened out of it. The author revealed, in a Q&A a long time ago, that Fairies have the longest lifespan out of all the species/clan meaning that they, all species/clan, are not immortal. This is also a downplayed trope because one of the scenarios, in the playing with section, of Who Wants To Live Forever shows an example of the said lifespan being longer than average but not immortal - which is in the downplayed category. Make sure you guys read the Q&A to keep tabs on the information that is sometimes not mentioned in the manga and also the playing with section of tropes so you guys can see the different scenarios of said tropes.


Is this really an example of Who Wants to Live Forever? being downplayed?


The main argument they've been giving for their edit is this Q&A which they originally misquoted from chapter 132.

Q: Is the lifespan of the Fairy King longer than the rest of the fairies? A: It might be the longest out of all the different species.

While I have brought their misquote to their attention via PM, they are still citing Fairy King lifespan Q&A as their argument.

The argument they are asserting is because "the Fairy King has the longest lifespan, the other clans except humans must therefore simply have regeneration/longevity. Thus the vampires of this series are not immortal."

I have gone back through parts 1, 2, and 3 of the Vampire sidestory as well as other parts of the manga and there are really some things that go against their conclusion.

  • The vampires of this series are stated of to be undead. To defeat them, you either have to destroy their head or completely dismember their body.
  • With the exception of some unique individual abilities, they appear to be very much the stereotypical immortal undead vampires that are common in other works based on what's been presented.

While I have pointed these things out about the vampires, they have replied back saying that the vampires of this series are not immortal because they don't have Complete Immortality like a certain other character has.

Incidentally, Ban the character with Complete Immortality has Undead Ban as one of his monikers.


So again is this correct

Or should I revert back?

TLDR:

Is this an example of Who Wants to Live Forever? being downplayed on the basis that because the Fairy King is stated to have the longest lifespan in an Q&A, it must mean the other clans except humans must therefore simply have regeneration/longevity and thus the vampires of this series are not immortal.

Edited by Elfkaiser on Jul 26th 2018 at 6:43:24 AM

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Lost in Space
#5921: Jul 26th 2018 at 7:02:42 PM

[up] Well, it's not a downplayed example, for one. Downplayed is (ironically) overused. The trope is flexible enough that even if the character is not technically immortal, merely extraordinarily long-lived, it still applies. So it is a straight example.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
heartshiningg Team Orange Juice Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Team Orange Juice
#5922: Jul 26th 2018 at 8:20:29 PM

I decided to add the post to show my side/perspective in my own of the discussion and if I'm right or wrong then I can see why based on my reasoning...

So to restate...

I'm having a discussion with Elf Kaiser to decide what is the right or best info to conclude on for the Vampire Clan, and Gelda specifically, section on the tv tropes pg for NNT and the question/problem basically boils down to whether or not the Vampire Clan possesses longevity like all the other clans except humans or are they immortal. Its when we find an answer to that that we will be able to decide whether or not one of Gelda's tropes, "Who wants to live forever", is a downplayed trope for her.

So my opinion on the matter is that they possess or at least implied to have longevity(I think it says so on the NNT wiki as well). I gave my reasons that it was because of the Q&A corner where Suzuki answered that the Fairy King probably has a longer life span than the rest of the clans(Giant, Demon, Vampire, etc- It is also stated in the NNT wiki under The Fairy King Harlequinn) which would imply that the Vampire Clan are not immortal but they do have longevity/are long lived(which means they age slowly). I went to confirm it with experienced translators on discord (from otakumole.com if you have ever heard of it - they where once Raffmanga but they changed domains) and they said it, the answer Suzuki gave, can be translated as "out of all the species/races" so I still believe he meant compared to all the other clans(https://sta.sh/2qt6tp18ggd) as the clans are different species from each other.(I can provide the discord link if need be so you can check to see if they are legit). I also went on the tropes pg for Vampires(Our Vampires are different) to look for characteristics that are commonly portrayed for them. And the baseline rules listed for them, regarding age, is that they can be "The Ageless" or "Long-Lived"(I took note that they can still be called undead, regardless, as long they can "come back to life" as I saw the undead trope is still mentioned to describe them in the general description for the vampire tropes our vampires are different).

So I came to the conclusion since that Vampires, as according to the tropes, can be either "The Ageless" or "Long-Lived" that the Vampire Clan for NNT has been portrayed or at least implied to posses longevity or age slowly like the other clans except humans. I took note that even though "Long-lived" is listed with "The Ageless" under the immortality age tropes for vampires that they say that it, long lived, is not an immortality tropes but a long-lived trope. I also made sure to check the downplayed tropes scenario(in the playing with section) for the "who wants to live forever" and one of scenarios was indeed one where "long Lived" plays a part/is an example. I also took the discussion, regarding whether Suzuki was referring to the clans or just within the fairy clan, to the NNT Reddit where members are very much active are contribute to the info of NNT towards the wiki and here and they/majority ultimately said that he was referring to the clans and not just the within the Fairy clan.(https://www.reddit.com/r/NanatsunoTaizai/comments/91imq7/help_me_settle_this_discussion_on_the_fairy_king/). *I took the discussion to the NNT reddit because one of the mod gave us a link to help us with our discussion(from the previous Ask The Tropes post that Elfkaiser put - https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/query.php?parent_id=66366&type=att) and one of the tips in the solution was that it the tropes should "Make sure that the example makes sense to both people who don't know the work AND don't know the trope."(https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13543987200A54420100) and the NNT redditors would be considered those who don't know the trope(I think).

Edit- the post i made discussing the vampire tropes didn't get any replies by the time it got to where we are now so i guess i only partially did the useful tip,lol

The OP argument is what you see below that he put in which that Suzuki wasn't referring to the other clans and just only within the Fairy Clan or just the Fair King variety thus the Vampires are immortal/eternal life and he concluded that the Q&A question was not good enough to support my stance as the vampires clan nor others aren't mentioned. He gave further support by saying that they are stated to be undead, as mentioned by King, and thus have immortality and are the typical run of the mill vampire.

So which would it be?(If I'm right or wrong I would like to see why so as to note make a mistake again)...

Thank You.

Edited by heartshiningg on Jul 27th 2018 at 7:03:41 AM

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Elfkaiser Since: May, 2013
#5923: Jul 26th 2018 at 9:58:51 PM

[up]

I don't know how to properly respond to heartshiningg's reasoning anymore that:

is an example of Who Wants to Live Forever? being downplayed since it feels like we are going in circles and getting sidetracked so if anyone can explain things better than me then you are welcome.

I'll just restate some simple facts from the series for context for others:

  • The Fairy King Q&A is about the Fairy King's lifespan. Regardless of interpretation of the Q&A, Vampires aren't directly mentioned.
  • The Vampires are specifically stated to be undead.
  • They can be killed either by destroying their head or by completely dismembering their body.
  • Sunlight kills Vampires
  • We do not know for sure yet if they can die from lack of drinking blood.
  • We do not know for sure yet if they are Long-Lived as in they have a long but still limited lifespan.
  • We do not know for sure yet if they are The Ageless as in they are immune to old age.
  • We do know they fall under Really 700 Years Old as Gelda who looks like a young woman was 345 years old.
  • The oldest looking vampire Izraf was 1319 years old when he was killed.
  • We do not know for sure yet if they age slowly or are locked into the state they were converted into.
  • Gelda the Vampire was weary. She no longer wants to live a life anymore wherein she has no aim or goal but to just keep drinking blood and live. She asks to be killed.

I know I was given a straight answer by Fighteer via

Well, it's not a downplayed example, for one. Downplayed is (ironically) overused. The trope is flexible enough that even if the character is not technically immortal, merely extraordinarily long-lived, it still applies. So it is a straight example.

but unless someone directly addresses heartshiningg's reasoning other than me then I don't think it's going to be settled.

Edited by Elfkaiser on Jul 26th 2018 at 10:04:32 AM

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#5924: Jul 27th 2018 at 5:36:49 AM

You are both dramatically overthinking this. Who Wants to Live Forever? has the following components:

  • Character is either actually immortal or unusually long-lived compared to the norm for the setting.
  • Character decides that being super long lived sucks and wants to shorten their span.

That's it. Everything else is gilding. According to that, the example in question is valid and is not downplayed.

Edited by Fighteer on Jul 27th 2018 at 8:38:57 AM

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#5925: Jul 27th 2018 at 5:59:55 AM

For a simpler example vetting, I'm reposting this one for Cool People Rebel Against Authority because I'm not sure I understand the trope well enough to have it right.

  • Heartful Punch of Sleepless Domain is well liked and admired by both her peers and the populace at large thanks to being a strong magical girl who regularly supports others where she can despite preferring to fight alone, however she regularly shows a casual disdain for authority. She brushes off her dormitory's RA's concerns about her constantly coming home late, declares she's her manager's boss and not the other way around, draws a rude picture of a nurse who forces her home rather than let her stay with a recuperating Undine, and, when showing Undine the school rooftop she likes to go to, notes the roof is off-limits "but, y'know, whatever." On two of these occasions the Alt Text uses You're Not My Father as a gag.

Current events in the comic are suggesting why this may be the case, but I'm not including them because they haven't played out fully yet.


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