Is this an example?

That quote does not make a lick of sense.

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- Sorry.

Changed to Girl on Girl Is Hot.

^Previous Basically, if Ambiguously Gay is made into a Unbuilt Trope, is the standard that such a couple is a Token Minority or what? Because the standard can't be Fetish Fuel, it seems too broad... Oh, it should be Girl on Girl Is Hot, if the context is accurate, that its Girls Behind Bars... YMMV.So Young So Bad

edited 3rd Apr '18 1:03:29 PM by Malady

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Just change it to fanservice.

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Just gonna repost this because someone added to it:

• "The Trial"
  • Blue Diamond has been waiting for centuries to find out the truth about Pink's death. It's half of the reason why she demands that Rose be tried, assigned a defense lawyer Zircon, and allowed make a statement.
    You'd Expect: She'd have given Defense Zircon enough time to find the truth, and to tell her that is her job, and not to find the defendant innocent or guilty.
    Instead: Defense Zircon has less than a minute to talk with her client. She's also been told by Yellow Diamond, or her manager, that if Steven is found guilty, then Defense Zircon will be shattered.
    The Result: Poor Defense Zircon is a Nervous Wreck through the trial and angry that her client isn't even trying to claim innocence, instead making a confession and asking for punishment. It's not until a random break happens, thanks to Blue Diamond's powers, and Steven finally admits that he doesn't know what exactly his mother did, that Defense Zircon starts pointing out the holes in Pink's death, and confirming Blue's suspicions. Even so, Blue doesn't get closure and "Rose Quartz" manages to escape with a human in tow.

You'd Also Expect: Given that the Diamond Authority has had thousands of years to investigate this issue which clearly weighs heavily on Blue Diamond's mind, and that there's nothing preventing them from visiting Earth whenever they want, that they would have sent an entire team of their most brilliant investigator's down to analyze the crime forensically.
Instead: Blue Zircon is the apparently the first person to notice the obvious flaw with the story that's been circulating for millennia.

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It's clear throughout the episode that while Blue wanted a trial, Yellow didn't, so Defense Zircon not having any time to talk with Steven seems to be more on her than on Blue. Also the example itself kinda gets a little derailed at the end.

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On George Lucas Altered Version, games like Ocarina of Time 3D and Bad Fur Day on the Xbox are listed. Do those really count? They're remakes, not remasters.

On Doubutsu Sentai Zyuohger:

• Asshole Victim: Based on his actions (especially against his own henchmen, namely Naria), no one mourns Ginis after the Zyuohgers finally annihilate him in the finale.
  • In episode 35, Bunglay is subject to this, as well.

The examples were recently added (see history), but as Ginis is the Big Bad, can it be considered a true Asshole Victim entry or is it a misuse?

And if it is a misuse, should we just create a cleanup thread for the entries?

The relevant discussion can be found here.

edited 5th Apr '18 7:19:54 PM by gjjones

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Can Related in the Adaptation for real life beings be use for fictional portrayals?

edited 5th Apr '18 7:28:30 PM by WhirlRX

So in first Uma Musume episode they did the whole Toast of Tardiness stereotype I mean right down to as stereotypical as it gets, however with the cast being Little Bit Beastly Horse Girls (which is what the title's name translates to) its done with a carrot.

Still an example?

edited 5th Apr '18 8:29:05 PM by Memers

The way I see it, Asshole Victims and villains like Big Bads are not the same. AN AV is more like someone who is more like a jerk or Bad Boss who isn't the main antagonist and ends up dying in the crossfire.

And villains cannot be victims anyway. If they die, that's Laser-Guided Karma for their evil deeds, unless they're dying trying to do good, then that's Redemption Equals Death.

edited 5th Apr '18 9:17:36 PM by Eddy1215

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Would a Karmic Death also count if the villains die for their evil deeds?

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I always felt Karmic Death was dying in a manner based on their way of life, like being brought down by a being they looked down on.

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I'd like to point out that there are a number of Big Bad (Ensemble)s who qualified as Asshole Victims.

Namely the following:

• Oberon/Nobuyuki Sugou - Sword Art Online's Fairy Dance Arc (well, in-game, but still...)
• POH - Sword Art Online's Alicization Arc
• Embryo - Cross Ange
• The Master - Power Rangers Mystic Force
• Diodora Astaroth - High School DXD Volume 6

Plus, some of the ones I listed fell under the Hate Sink category (though the Master should, too), and those in that category who were brutalized or killed were listed as Asshole Victims.

edited 6th Apr '18 5:49:49 AM by TVLubber

Is this a Shout-Out or not? In Yo-kai Watch gumdrops come in a tin that reminds me of Grave of the Fireflies. I however don't know enough about candy to know if this is a Shout-Out or if gumdrops commonly come (or came) in such tins.

If you don't know, it's not an example. It could be one, but that requires someone to fill in the details.

Memers: I would call that an example. It's clearly the same trope they're going for.

WhirlRX: If you're talking about two real people who in a fictional portrayal are related, I would say it could be an example.

Pichu-kun: I'd call those remakes as well, since they're remade for a different console. Well, I don't know anything about Bad Fur Day, to be honest.

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Are remakes disqualified as George Lucas Altered Version?

In Fable III, you play as the child of the Hero in Fable II, despite the fact that it's possible to be gay in that game. Can this be considered Cutting Off the Branches?

Is the child biologically related to the hero? They could've just adopted.

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It's definitely biological. In the Fable series, being a Hero, with a capital H, is genetic. Basically to be a Hero means your draw your strength from defeated foes. And so the events of Fable III would be impossible if you didn't inherit your Hero genes from the previous Hero.

Well, the hero in Fable II isn't the only Hero. Fable III Hero could have gotten genes from a different bloodline.

Except the game flat out says you're the child of the Fable II Hero, who became king/queen, making you the heir.

I mean being an adoptive kid still doesn't rule you out from another Heroic bloodline. That said, if it requires this much mental gymnastics to justify, I think the edge case is unlikely enough that it counts as branch-cutting.

It's possible to be gay and have a child. If it pertains to something as significant as an explicit Hero bloodline, then that's something that's conceivably arranged.

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A remake for a film is shooting an entirely new film, usually with new actors and a new script, that's based on the previous version. That's about what the game version of remakes are as well. George Lucas Altered Version of a game is more like changing the existing game, like recutting, modifying existing content, and stuff like that. I'm not sure ports are or aren't included in that, since it's hard to tell what's actually done there. The difference between films and games is that games have so much content under the hood, in the form of code, while films are what you see.

edited 7th Apr '18 1:39:35 AM by AnotherDuck

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Should something be done about all the Character Title examples that are just its subtrope, Protagonist Title?

Here's the Comic Books folder:

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Should we wipe them, because Protagonist Title is in Example Sectionectomy, so it can't take examples?

edited 7th Apr '18 11:09:55 AM by Malady

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On Converging-Stream Weapon, the Reign of Fire and How to Train Your Dragon examples seem to be stretching the definition of the trope. Maybe they are another trope, but I don't think they fit well here.

From Recap.My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic S 8 E 4 Fake It Til You Make It:

• Chekhov's Skill: Inverted, as Fluttershy's masterful knitting ability from the comics appears to have suddenly deteriorated to the point where she can't even knit an elephant tea cozy properly.

This seems like a misuse unless it foreshadows a lack of skill in that area. Is that the case here? Would this be an example of a Continuity Snarl or Retcon (the show itself has made characters inept at what it previously showed them competent at, FYI)?