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- Make sure that the example makes sense to both people who don't know the work AND don't know the trope.
- Wrong: The Mentor: Kevin is this to Bob in the first episode.
- Right: The Mentor: Kevin takes Bob under his wing in the first episode and teaches him the ropes of being a were-chinchilla.
- Never just put the trope title and leave it at that.
- Wrong: Badass Adorable
- Right: Badass Adorable: Xavier, the group's cute little mascot, defeats three raging elephants with both hands tied behind his back using only an uncooked spaghetti noodle.
- When is normally far less important than How.
- A character name is not an explanation.
- Wrong: Full Moon Silhouette: Diana
- Right: Full Moon Silhouette: At the end of her transformation sequence into Moon Princess Misty, Diana is shown flying across the full moon riding a rutabaga.
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Edited by Synchronicity on Sep 18th 2023 at 11:42:55 AM
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Oops forgot to add the article in question, it's from Shown Their Work. So is it an example or not?
- For Friendly Sniper, can this be used if it's for a character who's a good guy and helps out their allies in a fight?
the Retromancer
Morality and alignment are not in the trope's restrictions.
Asked about this in the Page Quotes cleanup thread, but didn't get a response, so I'll ask here as well:
Does this quote on Quotes.Lost Aesop actually demonstrate a Lost Aesop:
The bit about delivering a moral is a side comment and not the focus of the quote at all. Even if it was the focus, I don't quite see how it's an example.
Got a question about Trumplica - Does it apply to stagings of plays where a preexisting character is made to look and act like Trump?
For instance, there was a famous/infamous Public Theatre production of Julius Caesar that presented Caesar as Trump and are fairly sure there's been productions of Richard III that did the same.
Also thinking of how there's some productions of Kiss Me, Kate that present Lilli's fiancé, Harrison Howell as looking and acting like Trump (Howell being depending on the version of the play either a politically connected (Texan) millionaire or a General who evokes President Eisenhauer).
I'm kind of thinking that they would qualify, since the Trumplica page includes versions of comic book characters (i.e. Maxwell Lord and Lex Luthor) who were not originally based on Trump but who do evoke Trump in certain adaptations and/or comics.
Edited by Hodor2 on Dec 25th 2023 at 12:05:47 PM
I don't see why they wouldn't.
Yeah, that quote is barely about a lost aesop. It's more just complaining about the episode.
On Batman Film Series, it says:
- Two Decades Behind: The Burton films depicted Gotham City being four decades behind. Even though it's clear from the context that the stories are occurring during about the last decade of the 20th century, newspapers still cost about 25 cents, a chemical plant still dumps its toxic waste in the river, suburbs are nonexistent (except for Wayne Manor, of course), the town is without solar or even nuclear power, women still have no way to fight back against discrimination in the workplace, fedoras and late-1940s "New Look" dresses are everywhere, criminals fire Thompson submachine guns, and while the cars are at least contemporary, Bruce Wayne thinks nothing of having Alfred drive him around in a very old-fashioned 1930s Rolls-Royce. Some of this can, of course, be justified by Purely Aesthetic Era.
On the other hand, I don’t recall those Batman movies ever establishing when they are supposed to take place. For all I know, it really is the past, albeit with future anachronisms. Would Purely Aesthetic Era be more suitable? Or should I put it down as Ambiguous Time Period?
Ignore this I wasn't sure about the scope of Rooting for the Empire.
Edited by PlasmaPower on Dec 25th 2023 at 11:38:09 AM
Thomas fans needed! Come join me in the the show's cleanup thread!
Homebrew example:
- Fashionable Asymmetry: Alice's "casual" outfit has her wearing an oversized T-shirt in which one arm goes through the shirt's collar like a one-shoulder dress, putting the empty sleeve under her armpit, while the other arm goes through a hole in the shirt's armpit, putting the sleeve on her shoulder.
Edited by Gofastmike on Dec 26th 2023 at 4:50:48 AM
Impi Master
This one is very odd, even odder because this example has been for years. None of the series has been banned anywhere, and i don't think none of these examples fits. The first one is basically saying "It's not banned, but if this hypothetical thing happened it would be", which is not an example. The second one is saying "They changed this to not be banned", which is sightly more okay, but it's still not example. The third one starts as the first, "It's not banned, but if this hypothetical thing happened it would be", and then another example of the second, "They changed this to not be banned".
They're just very clunky as examples, should i remove them?
I'm not Superman, not Batman, or Spiderman, or Aquaman, or a merman, or a wolfman. I'm not a brahman, or common, or a calman.
Yes you should they are just a bunch of hypothetics.
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Musician/Composer
In the One Piece (2023) episode "The Girl With the Sawfish Tattoo", Arlong thwarts Nami's plan to free Coco Village by having the Marines confiscate her 100 million berries. Then, Nami realizes Arlong's betrayal and the village is burned down. Does this count as an example of From Bad to Worse?
Edited by gjjones on Dec 26th 2023 at 5:51:35 AM
He/His/Him. No matter who you are, always Be Yourself.
I believe so.
Reginald Ogron 5 removed a Fake Brit example from Helluva Boss because "Fake Brit would imply that these demons from Hell have actual British ethnicity".
Even if these characters aren't LITERALLY British, they still have British accents and are voiced by non-British actors, aren't they? Surely that's all that counts for Fake Brit, right?
the Retromancer
Digimon Ghost Game - Antagonists: Moon=Millenniumon
- Art Evolution: A subtle one, but if one looks very closely, "http∶//digimon.net", the current web address for Digimon Channel is written on the bands wrapped around its body rather than the old "http://www.digimon.channel.or.jp" URL.
Is this artwork though??
TroperWall / WikiMagic CleanupReposting from the last page.
Bumping this, plus I have an example I’m unsure of (from ShownTheirWork.Video Games):
- Tokyo Xanadu: The extensive cultural differences between Japan and America are explored through the character of Asuka and her bonding events, with difference in social norms and values cropping up constantly, and avoiding making her a Phenotype Stereotype or Eagleland caricature.
Having played the game, I don’t think they really explored this aspect of the character except maybe a piece of dialogue or two.
She/Her | Currently cleaning N/A
I've noticed people seem to be (mis)using Art Evolution for any instance where a character's design is changed — for example the various iterations of Godzilla having different appearances in almost every movie, even those set in the same continuity.
Is there a different trope that would more accurately fit this trend?
the Retromancer
Depending on the Artist? The general issues with Art Evolution are best for Trope Talk or TRS.
Questions.
I put the following on my fanfic page The Bolt Chronicles some time ago, but am increasingly becoming unsure if it qualifies:
- Paper Master:
- While scolding Bolt for his bad behavior in "The Coffee Shop," Penny threatens to spank the dog with a rolled-up newspaper if he continues to misbehave. It's an empty threat, as it's stated that she has never hit Bolt — but it has kept him in line in the past.
- In "The Party," Leonard the poodle dashes for the bedroom to avoid what he expects will be a spanking with a rolled up newspaper from his owner when he is caught playing loud music.
Leonard: Hide, hide, hide, hide, hide! I gotta hide before he catches me and whacks me with a newspaper! Outta my way, cat!
Am also considering adding these to Comedic Spanking because a rolled up newspaper is involved, though not sure how comic the situations actually are.
There's also this, which clearly illustrates its trope. However, it might also come under Comedic Spanking, but am not sure.
- Kinky Spanking: In "The Party," it's suggested that Eddie the Basset hound enjoys having Jo whack his backside with a rolled up magazine.
Feedback on all these issues requested. Thanks!
Update on x4 , I looked up bonding of TX online and only one of them discusses her time in America (here, 14:56). The others are just simple character building without that part or simple Ship Tease, and even the aformentioned event doesn't go too deep on it.
Should I remove it?
She/Her | Currently cleaning N/A
Showtime!
Yes. All of your other examples are partial context examples but as someone who's not familiar with the work I can't say if the missing context is in the work or not
That's not an example of Paper Master because Paper Master usually involves elemental powers and requires actual combat acuity
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A few hours ago, nintendofanboy77 removed this example from Translation Nod:
- The final Boss-Only Level of Kirby: Triple Deluxe is called Eternal Dreamlandnote , possibly after the English name of Kirby's home nation, which is called Pupupu Land in Japanese.
With the reason:
I messaged them saying it could refer to both and asked if Dream Land was ever spelled with a space in Japanese, and they replied saying that "Dreamland" can only be a flowery euphemism for death in this context, and any translations that give it a space are only referring to Kirby's home. To me, this seems overly pedantic.
Edited by NitroIndigo on Dec 27th 2023 at 8:18:20 PM
Would this be an example of Blood-Splattered Innocents or Blood-Splattered Warrior
In Torque (Jak and Daxter), Keira has been becoming more and more of a fighter with her time in the Underground, when Erol finds out that she is part of the Underground she ends up having to fight for her life and eventually kills him with a screwdriver to his neck. Blood in his final struggle covers her hands hand body. However, Keria has never killed anyone before and is left shaken by the event. Seeing herself covered in his blood only unnerves her more.
I feel it's more the former given it's her first kill and the effect it has on her.
Edited by Lord-Jaric on Dec 25th 2023 at 3:21:16 AM