Is this an example?

Is this an example of Vengeance Feels Empty?

Example: After Kevin horribly slayed Christ's family, Christ eventually catches up with him and puts him to an equally cruel death. Although he is completely relieved by the realization of justice being restored, he still longs for his family and forgets about retribution to Kevin.

No, because the vengeance was still relieving to the character

For the Kids Prefer Boxes, I'd say no because it's an adult but I feel like we might have a broader gifting trope about that sort of thing? Maybe check trope finder

Thanks, would you at least tell me what you think about it?

What I think is that there's a lot of needless emphasis and exaggeration going on, distracting from the point of the example.

I don't even know what Catharsis Factor is supposed to be about any more, in addition to what Warjay said

I found this on YMMV.Marvels Spider Man 2:

• Badass Decay: Critics of the game have noted that, compared to his first game, Peter suffers from a noticeable drop in competence- with the story putting more focus on Peter, Miles and MJ as a team, Peter by himself suffers a lot more from The Worf Effect and fails to take out neither Kraven nor Venom by himself.

This seems like an exaggeration to me. He is still pretty badass. He also defeats multiple other villains, like the Lizard and Scream, on his own. It's just like most sequel villains Venom is stronger than the last one. However, I could be wrong. Anymore opinions?

Edited by Bullman on Dec 21st 2023 at 2:58:46 PM

Hello, I remember asking about this entry once before though I didn't get a response. On WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds.Anime And Manga:

• In Puella Magi Madoka Magica, Kaname Madoka has been this for a few alternate timelines. She's The Woobie in all of them, because of nearly every event in the course of the show, but in any timeline where she survives Walpurgis Night as a Magical Girl (i.e. all of them so far where she hasn't died during it), she's fated to become an extremely powerful witch, and either has to be Mercy Killed by Homura or simply goes on to destroy the world whilst Homura goes back in time to try and fix things (again). In the final episode, she becomes this yet again but sacrifices herself in the process.

The description for this trope states that a WDOW "is character who by definition, is constantly beaten up, kicked around, and lives an all-around miserable life." But the two times Madoka becomes a witch, it looked more like her transformation was against her will rather than allowing herself to become a monster after crossing the Despair Event Horizon (like Sayaka did in episode 8). Also she never becomes a WDOW in the final episode, since her act of mercy killing magical girls before they transform into witches is framed as entirely heroic.

Would this^note In their introduction trailer, Lanky is noted to be using his brother Lonky as both a battering stick and a throwing grenade. be an example of Equippable Ally/Fastball Special?

Hate Dumb is Flame Bait and doesn't normally make it into YMMV pages, let alone work pages.

However, in Drag Race Germany, the Reality Show's host Barbie Breakout directly talks to the audience and calls out the toxic elements of the franchise's fandom.

For Troll, can this be used to refer to troll farming?

Judging from the definition of "troll farming" on Urban Dictionary, I suppose so (though only fictional examples, of course).

Does Grievous Bottley Harm only count if glass bottles are used? Home Sweet Home Alone has this example:

• Grievous Bottley Harm: One of the implements Max uses against Pam are plastic soda bottles with Mentos. The bottles either fizz in her face when opened or fly into her.

I'm working on a draft for this idea, so if it doesn't count as an example of Grievous Bottley Harm, I figure I could delete it there and repurpose it on my draft.

The question was, would it be cathartic to kill such a villain in that way? ^note  Is it either because of the excessive horror of the assassination or not because of some other reason?

Edited by Kuprin on Dec 22nd 2023 at 3:25:55 PM

The actual question is, is it actually cathartic to the audience? I can't weigh in on an audience reaction for a work I haven't engaged with. It could be seen as catharsis, or it could be horrifying overkill. And I can't tell you just from reading the example you wrote.

Sounds more like Dear Negative Reader to me.

Has anyone watched the South Korean Series Taxi Driver (2021) ? I'd like to discuss some tropes with anyone of you that would fit the main characters.

Thanks jandn2014. I'm wondering if the page should be expanded a bit to mention troll farming.

Edited by Ominae on Dec 23rd 2023 at 12:04:57 PM

Characters.Love Live Niji Gaku
This recent edit actually putted a trope-slash on a particular section despite the overall addition and edits to the page itself. This was pointed on Kasumi Nakasu:

• Jerk with a Heart of Gold / Nice Girl: In the anime, she tends to sit between the to tropes. She can be a little bratty and self-centered at times, but at the end of the day she's a kind-hearted girl, caring and affectionate towards the rest of the girls, especially Yu.

• Jerk with a Heart of Gold: Moreso in the anime than the game. She can be bratty and self-centered at times, but at the end of the day she's not a bad person by any means and is quite affectionate towards the rest of the girls, especially Yu.

From Characters.Evillious Chronicles Daughter Of Evil:

• Child Prodigy + Children Are Innocent = Innocent Prodigy: A writing prodigy and, although pretty worldly by Praeludium of Red, still very innocent.

I have never seen "Trope Plus Trope Equals Trope" before. Is this even allowed?

Troperithmetic is basically expressing relationships in a different way, and that seems like sub-trope, so no point in it. I'd just keep the final result.

OK, I cut them and only kept the equation's result.

Something I noticed on YMMV.Jojos Bizarre Adventure Diamond Is Unbreakable is that a lot of entries are about the infamous "Duwang" Scans, the initial atrocious English scans of the manga.

• Bile Fascination: The Duwang scans have garnered this status due to its infamously awful translations, with many fans looking it up simply to see how bad they were.
• Fountain of Memes: The Duwang scans are the second biggest source of memes in the fandom next to DIO.
• Hilarious in Hindsight The "Koichi really steals? No dignity" line in the Duwang scans (Josuke tries to start a rumor about Koichi being a shoplifter in order to get Yukako to lose interest in Koichi) becomes this after this incident.
• Mis-blamed: The "Duwang" translation often gets called out for lapsing into complete gibberish. While it is undeniably not a good translation, a lot of the more commonly quoted lines from it are... actually pretty accurate to what's going on. (For instance, "I am wood" is said by a character who actually is made of wood, and Kira's rant about getting an erection from a picture of the Mona Lisa is completely accurate to what he's supposed to be saying) The problem is more to do with the series being incredibly strange and silly to begin with.
• So Bad, It's Good: The hilariously bad translation dubbed by many fans as the Duwang Scans. They originated when a pair of Chinese students decided to translate the manga for a project in their English class, and they translated the manga from Japanese to Chinese to English; they supposedly failed this class because of the project. For a long time they were the only available English translation of the manga online. The Duwang Scans were infamous for hilariously bad grammar, leaving Chinese characters untranslated, and many memetic lines such as "get a feeling so complicated" and "what a beautiful Duwang!"◊ Despite— or perhaps because of— the poor quality of this translation, the Duwang Scans have become a permanent part of JoJo history, often being the subject of dramatic readings on YouTube (like so) and some of the better translations keeping the memetic lines.

Are YMMV tropes talking about an unofficial translation allowed on the page for the actual work?

I think those examples are fine

So, I hope no one minds me asking this, but I'm wondering if the idea that "I Saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus" is about a kid catching his mom commiting adultery would qualify as Common Knowledge. As discussed when I brought it up to Values Dissonance, the idea is that what the singer actually saw is his mother kissing his father, who was dressed as Santa Claus at the time, and the young singer mistook the situation.

Of course, the only reason I'm not entirely sure it counts as that is because 1. Some of the people stating it as being about that are probably joking (although there are some people who seriously see it that way) and 2. The lyrics don't necessarily make the situation clear.

Sorry if this isn't important.

Bumping this, plus I have an example I’m unsure of:

• Tokyo Xanadu: The extensive cultural differences between Japan and America are explored through the character of Asuka and her bonding events, with difference in social norms and values cropping up constantly, and avoiding making her a Phenotype Stereotype or Eagleland caricature.

Having played the game, I don’t think they really explored this aspect of the character except maybe a piece of dialogue or two.

what is that Tokyo Xanadu one even supposed to be an example of?