Is this an example?

Wooden Katanas Are Just Better is about wooden practice katanas being effective as real weapons, not "wooden katanas exist"

Absolute destiny... apeachalypse?

Thanks. This throws all my pending ideas out of the window for now.

Wondering if the trope doesn't work if a wooden katana did seriously hurt someone.

Edited by Ominae on Dec 5th 2023 at 6:14:16 AM

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On Age Of Empires II HD Edition Civilizations:

• Discard and Draw: Originally non-Elite Genitours have 4 attack and 3 range. With The African Kingdoms patch 4.8, they instead have 3 attack and 4 range.

And elsewhere on the character sheet, this trope is used every time a character receives both buff(s) and nerf(s) in the same update. Is this actually valid? I feel like this isn't what Discard and Draw actually means.

On The Traitor Baru Cormorant, they have an example of Not in This for Your Revolution which describes a character who is a traitor/double agent planning on betraying the cause for their own ends. I thought that trope was for people who aren't traitors, who legitimately want to work for the cause, but they are in it for personal ends rather than high-minded ideals. Am I correct this wouldn't apply to that example?

Edited by molokai198 on Dec 6th 2023 at 3:16:39 PM

Would a plant that inexplicably does not need sunlight be an example of Fantastic Flora?

"Squid has to go to market. He's had to go to market for as long as he's sucked water."

Out of the Ghetto:

• Pretty Cure is set on averting this despite occasionally throwing in girly stuff like characters who like fashion, being balanced out by the action and the solid Character Development. The fact that older guys like it and appreciate the shows' merits certainly helps.

I dont even get what this is trying to say but the wording immediately makes this Not An Example.

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Pretty Cure was made for both younger girls and older males. At least the first entry.

From VisualNovel.The Eden Of Grisaia:

• Marry Them All: No commitment before the story and after the end Yuuji is on an island with the Mihama girls, Kazuki, JB and Chizuru. Kazuki wonders how he ended up with a harem and resolves to make him pick just one. She fails, though Yuuji suspects she knew he would and was hoping he’d pick the incest option. Which he kinda does, partially.

This seems like misuse, as there's no mention of marriage in the example as written.

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Bumping my question

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First example, there's more than one adult so they're not a Token Adult; pure Averted Trope examples shouldn't be listed unless the trope being averted is omnipresent. Second example, TA can still apply since, for some portion of the story, there is only one adult; the part about the rest of the story having more adults probably shouldn't be mentioned though.

From Splatoon 3:

• Game-Breaking Bug: Originally, Big Run rewards were handed out based on how high any given participant's score was relative to those of all players, with only the top 20% getting a silver decoration and only the top 5% getting a gold one. Due to competitive Salmon Runners driving the required percentages for each level of figurine higher with each successive Big Run, casual players were effectively locked out of any level higher than bronze and maybe silver by the fifth one. To combat this, the 6.0.0 update changed this so the thresholds required for each were always fixed and announced at the beginning of the Big Run. Players rejoiced at the news that gold figurines were no longer out of reach — and then despaired as they realized that (with no clear pattern) some players were rewarded based on the new system, and some players were rewarded based on the "top percentage" system. This means that, through no fault of your own, it was entirely possible to clear the given threshold for a certain color of figurine by a significant margin and still get one of a lower level. A lot of angry players who were shooting for gold cleared the 135 mark only to end up with silver figures instead. To add insult to injury, competitive players had pushed the scores even higher than before, with the lower threshold for a silver figurine now in the mid-140s and even a bronze figurine requiring unusually good performance.

This doesn't read as a GBB to me since the game is still playable regardless of whether or not this bug happens, and the ultimate win condition ("score in the top 5% of all scores") is still possible. Is this something I should delete or reword?

Edited by Pyhrrous on Dec 6th 2023 at 8:51:09 AM

This was on the Kingdom Hearts page'. I wasn't sure if it quite fit the criteria for Once Original, Now Common, so I chose to delete it;

• Seinfeld Is Unfunny: For a long time, Kingdom Hearts was generally agreed to be the best game in the series for its story, exploration and postgame, elements that were done worse or downplayed in later games like the initial release of Kingdom Hearts II. However, after the worldwide release of KHII Final Mix via 2.5 ReMIX, many international players were able to access the genuinely challenging Critical Mode and the plethora of postgame goodies that were only available to Japan for a long time, with the former requiring fans to pick apart the game's combat system to properly deal with the Superbosses. In doing so, KHII became more preferred over the original as time went on, with fans paying more attention to the action and combat system that made the KH engine feel slow and unengaging in comparison, and downright weird compared to later games. While KH is still considered one of the best games in the series and its story is considered superior, a vast majority of fans consider KHII to be the Even Better Sequel.

Should it be moved to Once Original, Now Common or stay deleted?

Not sure where else to put this, so here you go. I know the difference between Does This Remind You of Anything? and Rainbow Lens, with the former being deliberate cases while the latter is an Audience Reaction. However, I want to know if this one example that I came up with would be Does This Remind You of Anything? or Rainbow Lens. The example in question comes from Dragalia Lost, where the Big Bad Xenos, is an Evil God who wants to control everyone's lives. He thinks that people's ability of choice has corrupted them and he can influence the world around him. Xenos is an Invincible Villain who cannot be stopped nor can be reasoned with despite multiple attempts, and he has the power to make people lose hope and that they are worthless. Xenos is a Knight Templar who believes that he is helping people, even though he is clearly harming them instead. Does all of this sound familiar? It should. Xenos is essentially the Anthropomorphic Personification of homophobia and transphobia. There's also Xenos' defeat, where Euden confronts him alone, but all of his friends support him in the background, representing how a queer person must conquer queer phobia alone, but will have people who care about them cheering for them in the background. Xenos loses, since queer phobia always does. It can cause a lot of damage, but no matter how much you try, you cannot influence who other people are. Would this be Does This Remind You of Anything?, Rainbow Lens, or neither? Thank you!

Without additional context, that sounds like it could apply to a lot of different types of oppression. Any other evidence that it's about queerphobia specifically? If not, it could fit Rainbow Lens.

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.

Bumping my question.

I found this example on TheFool.Video Games

• The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky: This is referenced with two of the villains:
  • Campanella has the alias of The Fool. He is hard to pin down, but cold and sadistic.
  • A better fit is the egotistical Ineffectual Sympathetic Villain Gilbert. He is always delusional with a Small Name, Big Ego (including at one point lamenting that his plans for world domination have been nixed, despite his low rank), with his misery played for laughs, but he does get some moments to play hero (before inevitably running away as he's a Dirty Coward). Defeating him in battle can earn The Fool Emblem acessory, and in the 3rd game, players are likely to smash him over and over again in the arena to obtain this as it offers a massive boost to speed while lowering all other stats slightly.

Looking at The Fool page, it's about someone who is dumb but is very lucky an kind-hearted. Neither Campanella or Gilbert are kind-hearted and only the latter fits the "dumb" part of the trope. Would like more thoughts on this though.

Edit: Found another misused example (from WithGreatPowerComesGreatInsanity.Video Games)

• The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky The 3rd: The Thirteen Factories development logs for the Super Prototype Mecha Pater Mater indicate a long list of test pilots whose minds were shattered by attempting to pilot it. The Angel of Slaughter, being Too Broken to Break from by being sold into slavery by her parents, merely experienced flashbacks.

This doesn't describe someone who has gone insane from their powers, just that someone had already experienced enough awful stuff in their life that they can handle it.

Edited by Ayumi-chan on Dec 7th 2023 at 3:55:34 AM

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This was added to Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows:

• Esoteric Happy Ending: A minor example. Harry destroys the Elder Wand and throws both pieces over the bridge. While this is is framed as an end of all of the conflicts caused in the search for power related to the artifact, this completely ignores that Harry no longer has a wand which is definitely gonna be an issue for a wizard.

I'm not the biggest HP fan, but I remember the wizards would swap wands all the time in the movies. Heck, Ron's wand is snapped in half in the second(?) movie, so is there any reason why Harry wouldn't be able to get a new wand this time?

I'd cut that. Harry can a) get another wand from Olivander/a wand shop and b) was already using Draco's wand as replacement for his, he wasn't dependent on the Elder wand. (At least in the book, I can't remember if the film changes that)

In the book he doesn't destroy the Elder Wand and explicitly uses it to fix his original wand but returning the Elder Wand to Dumbledore's grave.

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Wiry Ailuropodine: That's not Once Original, Now Common, it's more to do with changing audience perception of it's quality. Not that it's original elements are now common place and unremarkable.

Edited by dcutter2 on Dec 7th 2023 at 5:26:22 PM

Yeah, that example only works for the movie because in the book he very much does not destroy the wand, and he fixes his current.

But also like, getting a new wand should not be hard? People get new wands in those books all the time.

So yeah that example is bad.

Edited by WarJay77 on Dec 7th 2023 at 12:27:49 PM

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Is this Irony as She Is Cast example proper?

• My Life as a Teenage Robot: The voice actresses for the Crust Cousins are of the opposite character's race. Britt, who is black, is voiced by Moira Quirk, who is white, while Tiff, who is white, is voiced by Cree Summer, who is black.

The page on Infraction Distraction lists Die Hard and Die Hard with a Vengeance as examples of the trope. Thing is, while in both instances, the bad guys are committing one crime to conceal another crime, the trope implies that the crimes the bad guy appears to be committing are minor compared to the one they are actually committing. In Die Hard, the bad guys pretend to be terrorists while really robbing a skyscraper, and in With a Vengeance they claim to have planted bombs around the city, including in a school, to distract from them robbing the Federal Reserve Bank. I'm pretty sure these are actually examples of Smokescreen Crime.

Bumping x6, plus I found more examples that I’m more unsure of on whether they are correct.

From the Mouths of Babes

• The Legend of Heroes: Trails from Zero: KeA, being a fearless Genki Girl prone to Brutal Honesty, has many cute exchanges that shock the party, like telling a gang leader that his Mohawk looks like a chicken perched on his head. This includes telling Rixia that her "boobies are huge".

Harmful Healing

• The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky:
  • Father Kevin uses the ability to give stamina to the rest of the party by shooting them with bolts, which knock them backwards just like being hit by attacks normally does.
  • In The 3rd's side story "Training Agate Style," Rais saves Rocco from his frozen state by throwing a firebomb at him, which earns him an earful from Rocco.

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For What the Hell, Hero?, can this apply to other characters who are in job positions that are seen as heroic (police/military)? They're not necessarily the main characters.

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The page is too long. Is this too general to count and should be cut / moved to some text manipulation trope?

• Any game with Content Warnings will inevitably have important parts of said warning edited out to create a Captain Obvious statement. For example, “This game contains scenes of explicit violence and gore” becomes “This game contains scenes”.

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I'd say it would count if they are otherwise portrayed as heroic in that work.

Under YMMV.My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic IDW, I've seen an entry deleted citing "I think for a work to qualify as Seinfeld Is Unfunny, it has to influence more than just the franchise." I've seen enough such SIU examples I ask if this this the case, especially since it is now a disambiguation that needs cleanup.

Edited by Ferot_Dreadnaught on Dec 8th 2023 at 10:51:26 AM

Bumping my Hindsight query from page 1201.

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