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Edited by Synchronicity on Sep 18th 2023 at 11:42:55 AM

WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#26076: Feb 24th 2023 at 5:53:05 PM

Re: Percy Jackson

yeah, that's kind of odd. Percy and Rachel didn't end up together and they're just two literal kids who sort of liked each other until Rachel became the oracle of Delphi and had to swear off romance. It was never even a thing so I think it's misuse.

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Khoshekh6 Since: May, 2022
#26077: Feb 24th 2023 at 6:57:26 PM

I don't even remember there being a ship tease

Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#26078: Feb 24th 2023 at 8:05:53 PM

Is Frustrated Overhead Scribble the third panel of 2010-11-01 El Goonish Shive, or some other kinda squiggle?

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Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#26079: Feb 24th 2023 at 8:10:57 PM

[up] Looks like 'disorientated'.

Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#26080: Feb 24th 2023 at 9:06:45 PM

I'll take that as "We don't have the right trope yet."

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WhirlRX Since: Jan, 2015
#26081: Feb 24th 2023 at 9:48:47 PM

Does Dal from Star Trek: Prodigy count for Hybrids Area Crapshoot?

He is revealed to be an artificial humanoid made up of 20 different alien DNA. However, he is unable to utilize the DNA and is pretty much normal. And when a shady doctor actually gives Dal the ability to utilize the DNA, it overloads his body and he starts to mutate.

Dghcrh You can't escape this monster from Small country that looks like a fish Since: Dec, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
You can't escape this monster
#26082: Feb 25th 2023 at 12:52:55 AM

  • In "Paintball Deer Hunt", Heather demands that Beth take back the "N" word - refering to "No".

This is an example I want to add to one of the Total Drama subpages, but does it fit Double Entendre, something else, or nothing?

[down]I think it works. Thanks.

Edited by Dghcrh on Feb 25th 2023 at 12:10:00 PM

I'm mainly a fan of underrated media.
gropcbf from France Since: Sep, 2017
#26083: Feb 25th 2023 at 1:14:20 AM

I guess this would be playing with T-Word Euphemism.

(Not a very well indexed trope, as I couldn't find it while searching for taboo word).

Edited by gropcbf on Feb 25th 2023 at 10:17:02 AM

BigBadShadow25 Owl House / Infinity Train / Inside Job Fan from Basement at the Alamo (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
Owl House / Infinity Train / Inside Job Fan
#26084: Feb 25th 2023 at 7:05:44 AM

So anyone who has seen Cocaine Bear, would you call it a Horror Comedy? Because someone changed its description to that from comic-thriller and I wanna make sure there’s an agreement on that before I add it to that index.

The Owl House and Coyote Vs Acme are my Roman Empire.
ElRise I fix my examples all the time from The Dying City (Season 2) Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
I fix my examples all the time
#26085: Feb 25th 2023 at 9:59:07 AM

Found this in Characters.Devil May Cry Other.

    This example is super long due to it being in thread mode. How to fix? 
  • Ambiguously Bi: As detailed in the prequel novel of 5. She's completely awe struck by Kyrie the first time they meet, remarking she believes her to be the loveliest thing she's ever seen, and then appears to attempt to flirt with her. She later remarks to Nero how gorgeous Kyrie is, and that he doesn't deserve her. She also has some extremely suggestive dialogue when tuning up Red Queen, Nero's sword (who she starts flirting with, while referring to it in female pronouns). But then again, while it may just be her fangirling, the fact that she could barely not stutter when talking to Dante (who has a history of having some girls liking him ) and also her calling Nero "honey" in an almost similarly flirtatious manner says something.
    • That's not even getting into the fact that she made Sweet Surrender. Did she make it for Kyrie because she realizes that Nero's usual replacement arm isn't exactly suitable for such a task or was it for her to indirectly pleasure Kyrie as well, seeing as she invented it?
    • Upon seeing Lady naked, Nico remarks that she has a “smokin’ body”, and awkwardly stammers that she wasn’t checking her out.
      • In the Mission 5 start screen, she can be seen hovering over Lady, who is sound asleep, naked with only a Modesty Bedsheet covering her up. It looks like she's just making sure Lady's okay, but with way she's nervously leaning in and reaching and fumbling with her hands, it also looks like she's fighting the temptation to have a peek under the bedsheet or just outright remove it.
      • That being said, when Lady wakes up and casually discards the bedsheet, leaving her nude, Nico has no real reaction outside of an annoyed glare that reeks of Please Put Some Clothes On.
    • One cutscene has her mistake Nero for flirting with her, going so far as to say "Ew!" Is she irked by the idea of a guy flirting with her or was she just messing with Nero?
    • Likewise, when she meets Dante, she nervously stutters around him in a way that suggests either being starstruck, or having a Celeb Crush.

Edited by ElRise on Feb 26th 2023 at 1:59:22 AM

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#26086: Feb 25th 2023 at 10:13:29 AM

Split it by game?

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Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#26087: Feb 25th 2023 at 11:04:55 AM

With no familiarity of the franchise, I would take the Shipping Goggles off and then do

  • Ambiguously Bi: Summary statement of how we're not sure either way but:
    • The best evidence that she's into women
    • The best evidence that she's into men

gjjones Musician/Composer from South Wales, New York Since: Jul, 2016
Musician/Composer
#26088: Feb 25th 2023 at 11:05:12 AM

Reposting from the previous two pages:

In Strike Witches, Yoshika Miyafuji is a friendly girl who often fights the Neuroi as a member of the 501st JFW. However, she draws the line at leaving her comrades to die, as demonstrated when she rescues Gertrud Barkhorn from certain death in the episode "Thanks". Does this fit under the Everyone Has Standards trope?

He/His/Him. No matter who you are, always Be Yourself.
Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#26089: Feb 25th 2023 at 11:07:04 AM

Everyone Has Standards requires the character to be 'bad' or at least odd in some way that the standards would be surprising, and that example as written doesn't show that. She reads like a friendly soldier, so caring about comrades seems natural

Edited by Synchronicity on Feb 25th 2023 at 1:07:49 PM

RandomTroper123 She / Her from I'll let you guess... (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
She / Her
#26090: Feb 25th 2023 at 1:02:14 PM

[up](x6) I heard it is a Horror Comedy, though I haven't watched it myself. (Granted I'm going to see it tomorrow.)

gamerzillasaurusrex2000 Since: Sep, 2022 Relationship Status: Abstaining
#26091: Feb 25th 2023 at 1:22:01 PM

Here are some ideas for future Mooks, but no Bosses examples:

Side note: As for my previous post, I've now added an additional piece of information regarding the Loud siblings' opinions of Lucy and Lola and another potential future trope example that I forgot to include before.

Khoshekh6 Since: May, 2022
#26092: Feb 25th 2023 at 1:39:36 PM

Isn't the inverted trope Boss Game? Should probably go on there instead

StFan Since: Jan, 2001
#26093: Feb 25th 2023 at 1:39:40 PM

This example from Iron Man bothers me:

  • Battle in the Rain: Downplayed, the final battle with Iron Monger appears to take place either during or just after a light downpour.

Problem is, this battle happens at night; in live-action, the ground is always wet at night to provide better lighting through reflection (I think it's a trope in itself, I just don't remember its name).

I believe this doesn't count as Battle in the Rain at all.

Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#26094: Feb 25th 2023 at 2:04:31 PM

I was thinking Hollywood Darkness, but that says nothing about wet ground?

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RandomTroper123 She / Her from I'll let you guess... (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
She / Her
#26095: Feb 25th 2023 at 2:07:46 PM

[up](x4) I agree with[up][up][up] that the second one is more so a played straight example of Boss Game. As for the first one, I could be wrong but I don't think it counts because it requires having bosses to be the norm in the game's genre; from my experience with those games, they often don't have bosses.

[up](x3) I guess; both Boss Game and Mooks, but no Bosses say they're polar opposites of each other. Regardless, assuming much of the game is fighting bosses, then it should count as the former.

[up][up]Since it doesn't seem to be during downpour, then I feel it doesn't count since the fight occurring while it's raining seems to be a requirement. Even if it does count, I don't think it's a downplayed example.

Edited by RandomTroper123 on Feb 25th 2023 at 2:08:03 AM

SereneSpecter13 F1 the robot from Microsoft Word (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: He makes me feel like I have a heart
F1 the robot
#26096: Feb 25th 2023 at 3:12:53 PM

This is in the Literature folder on Puppy Love:

  • Angela Nicely:
    • "Starstruck!" establishes that Angela and her friends (all six-year-old girls) find a pop star "dreamy".

I'm not familiar at all with that series, so... how old is that pop star? If they're a teen or adult, this would be a Precocious Crush, not Puppy Love.

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Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#26097: Feb 25th 2023 at 3:17:34 PM

Even the youngest pop stars are older than six.

SereneSpecter13 F1 the robot from Microsoft Word (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: He makes me feel like I have a heart
F1 the robot
#26098: Feb 25th 2023 at 3:24:56 PM

[up]In real life, sure. But in fiction, we can't be so sure, can we? Child characters in fiction can do things that would be unrealistic for somebody that age in real life.

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#26099: Feb 25th 2023 at 4:04:56 PM

Oof, that Ambiguously Bi entry for Nico is a mess, because 90% of it is Shipping Goggles reading too much into things as opposed to the text of the work. Almost all of the concrete statements about her land on the "overtly lesbian" side, with one minor instance of vague roundabout possible attraction to men. It needs a massive rewrite. Here's my attempt:

  • Ambiguously Bi: It's made abundantly clear that Nico is attracted to women, given her reaction to Lady in the nude (referring to her as having a "smokin' body" and awkwardly stammering after she exposes herself) as well as comments in the prequel novel where she thinks to herself that Kyrie is the loveliest thing she's ever seen. On the other hand, there is one cutscene that has her attempt to play it cool after a near-crash "Eww, are you flirting with me?". At the same time, it's such a bizarre and out-of-place accusation to resort to, especially for a man she knows is in a committed relationship, that it has undertones that she's not actually as against the idea of men flirting with her as she seems.

Edited by AlleyOop on Feb 25th 2023 at 4:10:27 AM

gamerzillasaurusrex2000 Since: Sep, 2022 Relationship Status: Abstaining
#26100: Feb 26th 2023 at 5:34:11 AM

Here's an idea for a future Real Life Handy Feet example:

  • Inverted with handstands. As the aforementioned compound word implies, it involves using one's hands as feet while moving about, leaving one's actual feet suspended in midair.
Side note #1: As for my previous post, Mooks, but no Bosses is one of the tropes listed on the main Alien: Isolation page, so listing that game's example of Mooks, but no Bosses on that trope's main page is for the purposes of filling in informational gaps.
Side note #2: Inverted trope examples are always significant because they're effectively polar opposites of straight examples.


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