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Edited by Synchronicity on Sep 18th 2023 at 11:42:55 AM

SoyValdo7 I mainly fix indentation issues from La tierra de lagos y volcanes Since: Sep, 2022 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
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#25126: Jan 9th 2023 at 1:17:38 PM

[up] So, I just put Darker and Edgier's example back?

Valdo
Plasticman1234 Since: Oct, 2022 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#25127: Jan 9th 2023 at 1:56:34 PM

in regards to why I think Mowgli should not be in the does not like Shoe's category it says what I'm talking bout near the bottom of the page for the does not like shoe's category that it does not count if either the character exists in a society where Shoe's do not exist or one where none of the other characters wear shoe's which in this case is all of the children in the man village.

meaning them not wearing Shoe's has less to do with their personality as they still wouldn't' if they were any of the other child characters.

MsOranjeDiscoDancer from Revachol Since: Aug, 2022
#25128: Jan 9th 2023 at 2:06:39 PM

does anyone know if this counts as an invocation of Blatant Lies or is it something else like That Liar Lies or No, You:

You are a part of a mercenary group hired by a nation declaring independence from a massive world government

Some years ago said government destroyed another independence movement that was primarily composed of mercenaries

You, a mercenary, play as one of the survivors of that destruction and many of the mercenary outfit you work with or for are also survivors

You are eventually betrayed by other mercenaries to the world government, and your group is accused of harbouring an ideological/personal grudge against the only major world power (some context: said world power unified the world after a major apocalypse destroyed nearly everything)

Your groups denies this because it's mercenary work and Nothing Personal, but one of the mercs who survived the other independence destruction scoffs and calls your group liars

Another merc claims his betrayal of your group is "just business" but his tone makes it clear he harbours a grudge against your group for basically putting his own group out of work

The game later strongly implies the accuser was right as your group takes some kind of dirty deal offered by the independence effort that one of your friends says gave them too much power

Edited by MsOranjeDiscoDancer on Jan 9th 2023 at 2:28:43 AM

hail, holy queen of the sea, you're whirling-in-rags, you're vast and you're sad
SoyValdo7 I mainly fix indentation issues from La tierra de lagos y volcanes Since: Sep, 2022 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
I mainly fix indentation issues
#25129: Jan 9th 2023 at 2:25:39 PM

From YMMV.Charby The Vampirate:

  • Archive Binge "I'm confused"-person who only read the pages with good art.

What does that even mean?

Valdo
MsOranjeDiscoDancer from Revachol Since: Aug, 2022
#25130: Jan 9th 2023 at 2:27:59 PM

i think theyre trying to tell the reader to go on an archive binge or calling out people who only look at the art and ignore the plot. either way remove it

Edited by MsOranjeDiscoDancer on Jan 9th 2023 at 2:28:21 AM

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Libraryseraph Showtime! from Canada (Five Year Plan) Relationship Status: Raising My Lily Rank With You
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#25131: Jan 9th 2023 at 2:44:55 PM

[up][up][up] The sounds most like No, You, but it's hard for me to get a handle on when I'm not familiar with the work

Absolute destiny... apeachalypse?
CompletelyNormalGuy Am I a weirdo? from that rainy city where they throw fish (Oldest One in the Book)
Am I a weirdo?
#25132: Jan 9th 2023 at 3:16:18 PM

[up][up][up]I think I figured out what it's trying to say. It looks like the comic (like many other webcomics) has undergone a fair bit of Art Evolution. So, if someone has only read "the pages with good art," (aka the most recent ones), they're unfamiliar with the early parts of the story, and are thus confused. Either way, it's a bad example and should be cut.

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#25133: Jan 9th 2023 at 3:51:48 PM

[up](x4) I'm unsure, though I think[up] might be right. Regardless, I'd hide it for lacking context, though it might just be misuse.

SoyValdo7 I mainly fix indentation issues from La tierra de lagos y volcanes Since: Sep, 2022 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
I mainly fix indentation issues
#25134: Jan 9th 2023 at 4:02:23 PM

[up] It was the only example on the YMMV page, so... I put it in the cut list before saw your comment. (;¬_¬)

EDIT:[down] Thanks for the clarification.

Edited by SoyValdo7 on Jan 9th 2023 at 6:29:48 AM

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StarSword Captain of USS Bajor from somewhere in deep space Since: Sep, 2011
Captain of USS Bajor
#25135: Jan 9th 2023 at 4:07:17 PM

@top of page: No, I meant Cerebus Syndrome seems like a better trope if it's internal to a single work.

Smashman2893 Since: Sep, 2021
#25136: Jan 9th 2023 at 4:43:25 PM

Would this be a proper example of Zerg Rush?

laserviking42 from End-World Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
#25137: Jan 9th 2023 at 5:58:21 PM

[up]Not enough context, Zerg Rush is using a massive number of low level units to overwhelm an enemy.

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Smashman2893 Since: Sep, 2021
#25138: Jan 9th 2023 at 6:12:49 PM

They take turns doing high damage. If it's not an example of Zerg Rush, than is it at least one for Combination Attack?

laserviking42 from End-World Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
#25139: Jan 9th 2023 at 6:32:26 PM

Combination Attack sounds closer, though I would try to expand the example more if possible.

I didn't choose the troping life, the troping life chose me
StarSword Captain of USS Bajor from somewhere in deep space Since: Sep, 2011
Captain of USS Bajor
#25140: Jan 9th 2023 at 6:33:03 PM

Looking for a music trope to describe the Orden Ogan and Friends version of the Final Days album. It's not an Updated Re-release because they rerecorded all the songs with a different guest artist on each one, plus releasing a Cut Song from the original version that had proven eerily prophetic of the COVID-19 Pandemic.

Would it qualify as a B-Side?

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low-poly Shinri
#25141: Jan 9th 2023 at 6:35:06 PM

Free! has this

  • Bizarre Human Biology: Timeless Medley: Promises revealed that Rin inherited his shark teeth from his father. Pictures of both Matsuoka men when they were younger indicate that these teeth somehow grew in at puberty. Humans only have two sets of teeth

umm.. what, why is this trope in an anime page about a bunch of good-looking dudes swimming.

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Smashman2893 Since: Sep, 2021
#25142: Jan 9th 2023 at 6:45:37 PM

[up][up][up] Is this a better description?

  • Final Fantasy VII: The summon materia, Knights of the Round, has each of the thirteen knights take turns attacking the foes, with every one of them doing massive damage.

Edited by Smashman2893 on Jan 9th 2023 at 9:45:46 AM

Libraryseraph Showtime! from Canada (Five Year Plan) Relationship Status: Raising My Lily Rank With You
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#25143: Jan 9th 2023 at 6:49:40 PM

If they each do massive damage and attack one at a time, it's not a zerg rush. A Zerg Rush specifically requires being overwhelmed by a ton of low-damage units attacking simultaneously

Absolute destiny... apeachalypse?
RandomTroper123 She / Her from I'll let you guess... (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
She / Her
#25144: Jan 9th 2023 at 6:51:11 PM

[up][up][up]I don't think having shark teeth is extreme enough to count as Bizarre Human Biology, so I'm leaning saying to cut it.

[up][up]I believe Zerg Rush requires more fighters as per having strength in numbers.

EDIT: Adding a couple arrows cuz I got [nja]'d.

Edited by RandomTroper123 on Jan 9th 2023 at 6:51:47 AM

Smashman2893 Since: Sep, 2021
#25145: Jan 9th 2023 at 6:55:18 PM

So does that mean I should put it on Combination Attack instead?

RandomTroper123 She / Her from I'll let you guess... (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#25146: Jan 9th 2023 at 7:01:16 PM

[up]Combination Attack only seems to count if the attack in question is a Special Attack.

Smashman2893 Since: Sep, 2021
#25147: Jan 9th 2023 at 7:06:10 PM

Does anyone know what trope it would best fall under?

RandomTroper123 She / Her from I'll let you guess... (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
She / Her
#25148: Jan 9th 2023 at 7:10:15 PM

[up]I'd see Trope Finder for that.

Khoshekh6 Since: May, 2022
#25149: Jan 9th 2023 at 8:15:24 PM

From Heart Is an Awesome Power

  • Risotto Nero's Stand, Metallica, can manipulate magnetic fields to create objects out of iron, such as razor blades, pins and scissors. It sounds fairly simple on its own, but the man is the leader of Passione's Hitman Squad for a reason: not only can he turn invisible by coating himself in iron dust, but his main method of assassination is transforming the iron inside his targets. Not only that, but, as he explains to Doppio, iron can be found everywhere from sand to water to plants, implying he only needs trace amounts of it for his power to work. He's a playable character in Last Survivor and became the first DLC character for All Star Battle R.

I don't think magnetism can be considered a "heart" power

RandomTroper123 She / Her from I'll let you guess... (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
She / Her
#25150: Jan 9th 2023 at 8:30:26 PM

[up]I agree that magnetism itself isn't seemingly weak and that that isn't an example of Heart Is an Awesome Power.


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