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Mario1995 The Dishonorable from Atlanta Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
The Dishonorable
#1726: Apr 23rd 2021 at 12:58:25 PM

Looks like AT&T wants to sell Rooster Teeth so that it can continue praising the HBO Max gods.

Edited by Mario1995 on Apr 23rd 2021 at 4:00:03 AM

"The devil's got all the good gear. What's God got? The Inspiral Carpets and nuns. Fuck that." - Liam Gallagher
Karxrida from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#1727: Apr 23rd 2021 at 1:46:00 PM

Sounds like they see little value in RT's content if they're selling it off already. Speaking of, I wonder what will happen to the second season of gen:LOCK. It's supposed to be exclusive to HBO Max.

Edited by Karxrida on Apr 23rd 2021 at 5:16:25 AM

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#1728: Apr 23rd 2021 at 3:11:19 PM

I imagine it'll still be on there. I wonder what this means for RT though; being acquired was what gave them the money to do some of their more ambitious stuff.

Shaoken (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
#1729: Apr 25th 2021 at 2:10:19 AM

Hard to say, although they've definitely scaled down their ambitions over the last couple years in what I presume is a cost saving measure.

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#1730: May 13th 2021 at 4:59:28 PM

Production of gen:Lock Season 2 is confirmed to be taking place.

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Karxrida from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#1731: May 13th 2021 at 5:12:49 PM

I wonder how much of the original creative crew is actually working on it. Gray is gone and apparently nobody (or at least none of the animators) at RT wants to touch the show.

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#1732: May 13th 2021 at 7:20:24 PM

That may be why they outsourced it to another studio. Bad taste in the mouth of a lot of animators.

Shaoken (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
#1733: May 13th 2021 at 10:01:10 PM

RT has writers working on it, and it is a RT IP so I imagine everything but the animation is handled by Rooster Teeth.

Karxrida from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
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#1735: Nov 22nd 2021 at 5:30:03 AM

So... we gonna talk about how it looks like Rooster Teeth is actually showing signs of dying? I'm not talking doomsayer and all that stuff, I'm talking the fact that they are literally in a situation that suggests the company is going under. So far they've put both Nomad and Camp Camp into Indefinite Hiatus' out of financial issues until they can find another studio to produce them, gen:Lock required being moved to HBO Max after it was an initial Acclaimed Flop and had a two year hiatus, Neon Konbini lasted only eight episodes before ending and even then most people only watched it for RWBY Chibi, even the show that started them big, Red Vs. Blue, is suffering it's first near unanimous negative reaction due to the failure that was Zero and Family Shatters. ATM, the only shows they have without any real issues behind it are RWBY and Death Battle, and they aren't exactly internet darlings either.

Add on the numerous controversies the company has been going through in the last few years like the crap with Ryan or the crunchtime fiasco under Gray, the fact that a bunch of the old guard has either shifted to a collaborator role or just flat out left, and that Warner Bros is still looking to sell the company off, I think this might legitimately be the beginning of the end for Rooster Teeth.

Rodimus: Self-sacrifice, Magnus— It's cheap. It's a cheap way out. I need to live so I can make amends.
FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#1736: Nov 22nd 2021 at 10:34:35 AM

I never really cared for their corporate side or their podcasts, Achievement Hunter, or anything beyond Red vs Blue and RWBY. I've been against the mass-corporatization of old internet memes/groups/communities for awhile now, especially after Channel Not Awesome, so the gradual shift of Rooster Teeth from being a small-time operation to a member of the digital big boys always bugged me, and watching their ambition decompose is oddly gratifying.

I'm not without sympathy for watching a content creator fall on uncertain times, but every time I hear something negative about Rooster Teeth I just think, "well, that happened."

Karxrida from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#1737: Nov 22nd 2021 at 10:46:00 AM

I thought Nomad was sent out to die by Gray. Plus I don't recall reception to it being overly positive.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from The Wiggle Room (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#1738: Nov 22nd 2021 at 11:46:03 AM

I sometimes miss Screw Attack,anyone else?

Edited by Ultimatum on Nov 22nd 2021 at 7:46:11 PM

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
vicarious vicarious from NC, USA Since: Feb, 2013
vicarious
#1739: Nov 22nd 2021 at 12:00:53 PM

Same case of internet content creator community devolving

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#1740: Feb 14th 2022 at 9:59:49 PM

And after looking into it, Season 2 of gen:Lock bombed, and not even in an Acclaimed Flop kind of way like Season 1, it was just genuinely bad. Looks like Rooster Teeth dodged a bullet by having HBO Max take it.

Rodimus: Self-sacrifice, Magnus— It's cheap. It's a cheap way out. I need to live so I can make amends.
Karxrida from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#1741: Feb 15th 2022 at 2:08:14 AM

I mean. Didn't all aspects of production shift hands along with the animation studio swap? Like it theoretically could have been better under RT if they kept it.

Somethingsomething852 Since: Jan, 2021
#1742: Feb 15th 2022 at 4:23:37 AM

[up]I prefer to think of it as "This initial show and production was so botched, not even a change of hands could fix it".

TheAirman Brightness from The vicinity of an area adjacent to a location Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
Brightness
#1743: Feb 15th 2022 at 8:21:33 AM

[up][up][up]Wait, season 2 came out?!

Last I heard they hadn't even put out a date yet, just a teaser.

Daaaaaaaamn

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theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#1744: Feb 15th 2022 at 12:53:45 PM

I'm kind of glad I stopped watching after a few episodes in Season 1, then.

Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#1745: Feb 15th 2022 at 6:52:33 PM

And after looking into it, Season 2 of gen:Lock bombed, and not even in an Acclaimed Flop kind of way like Season 1, it was just genuinely bad. Looks like Rooster Teeth dodged a bullet by having HBO Max take it.

From what I've seen, the existing fanbase panned it whereas professional and freelance critics (none of whom are associated with the fandom) have praised it, even loved it. I have no idea which side I'll come down on. I'm ignoring it all until I've seen it and can make up my own mind.

Given that the last episode aired on HBO Max just before Christmas, I'm assuming it'll be available on Rooster Teeth at some point this month. I guess we'll find out then what it's like.

Edited by Wyldchyld on Feb 15th 2022 at 3:13:44 PM

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#1746: Feb 16th 2022 at 1:00:25 AM

[up]I have seen it. And while there is one or two things I liked, I can say that I overall disliked it. I won't spoil anything since you plan on watching it still Wyld.

Rodimus: Self-sacrifice, Magnus— It's cheap. It's a cheap way out. I need to live so I can make amends.
Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#1747: Feb 16th 2022 at 2:14:33 PM

Well, in that case, I guess I'll find out what it's like. tongue

I'll let you know if I survive the plunge!

Edited by Wyldchyld on Feb 16th 2022 at 10:15:13 AM

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#1748: Feb 16th 2022 at 6:26:31 PM

[up]Godspeed Wyldchyld.

Edited by RebelFalcon on Feb 16th 2022 at 9:26:41 AM

Rodimus: Self-sacrifice, Magnus— It's cheap. It's a cheap way out. I need to live so I can make amends.
Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#1749: Apr 13th 2022 at 6:33:30 PM

Well, I've finished Season 2 (where there are notes, I've mentioned specific scenes, so there are spoilers in them).

I don't think it's as bad as was made out, given the complaints I heard about the scale of its bleak hopelessness; I ended up surprised by how un-bleak and hopeful the end actually was. However, that's a really low bar that I'm talking about, which isn't a good thing. It was definitely very sub-par compared to the promise of the first season, and it had some very strange scenes in it that seemed to have no true narrative purpose note . Overall, I think it had the same problems I felt RvB Zero had. The season felt like it was snapshots of a much larger storyline, so it was choppy, didn't flow, and even when there weren't time skips, it felt like there were (hence the "snapshot" feeling). I felt Zero needed to be done in three seasons; like the Chorus Trilogy, too much was squashed into too few episodes, which meant everything felt "glossed over" note , and that's how this season felt — superficial, cramped and disjointed.

It also had one problem Zero didn't have. Zero had one thing going for it: the animation. GL Season 2 definitely had lesser animation than Season 1. Everything was so bright and shiny that it felt like another work completely, it seemed weird given how gritty most of it was supposed to be. I had this vibe in the trailer when I first saw it months ago; I was hoping it would settle in the season, where there was context, but it didn't.

Overall, Season 2 was a very strange experience. The whole thing was... weird. And not in a good way.

It's also strange to see the scale of the disconnect between the GL/RT fandoms, who hate Season 2, and professional (non-fandom) critics, who rave about it as a brilliant follow-up to Season 1. While I do think the RT fandoms tend towards extreme negative reactions, I genuinely don't understand the positive reception from professional critics either.

Edited by Wyldchyld on Apr 15th 2022 at 4:18:12 AM

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#1750: Jun 6th 2022 at 9:13:51 PM

[up]Part of the negative reaction also had to do with their treatment of Kazu and Cammie, the latter especially, as well as accusations of Character Derailment for Miranda and Marin.

Edited by RebelFalcon on Jun 6th 2022 at 12:14:12 PM

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