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TheAirman Brightness from The vicinity of an area adjacent to a location Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
Brightness
#12001: Apr 8th 2017 at 4:58:20 PM

UGH what?

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lrrose Since: Jul, 2009
#12002: Apr 8th 2017 at 5:07:45 PM

Obligatory "I bid you dark greetings"

EndlessSea LEGENDARY GALE from oh no you don't Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
LEGENDARY GALE
#12003: Apr 8th 2017 at 9:03:57 PM

EMPEROR'S BLACK BONES.

but HOW?
dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar
#12004: Jun 18th 2017 at 2:03:00 AM

A random gushing.

I have a lot of complaints about this movie...but the music is not one of them. In fact, the main theme is just absolutely fucking amazing. Hell, I'd even put it in the similar level of the original Star Wars main theme.

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EndlessSea LEGENDARY GALE from oh no you don't Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
LEGENDARY GALE
#12005: Jun 18th 2017 at 4:29:32 PM

Mind posting a few favorites? The music was one of the most forgettable things about the movie for me, so I'm curious to see if I just missed some stuff or something.

but HOW?
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#12006: Jun 18th 2017 at 6:54:26 PM

I liked Rey's theme and I guess Kylo Ren's did a good job of conveying his tryhardiness but otherwise the soundtrack was pretty underwhelming.

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#12007: Jun 18th 2017 at 7:29:49 PM

By far the most disappointing is Snoke's theme. Which just pilfers The Tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise from ROTS despite the fact (if Lucasfilm is to believed) they're entirely unrelated characters.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar
#12008: Jun 18th 2017 at 8:17:03 PM

I kinda keep on forgetting that Snoke exists at all.

Then again, I don't think I even heard any mention of the Emperor Benedict in ANH.

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Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#12009: Jun 18th 2017 at 8:33:52 PM

Empire, Emperor... S'kinda in the name.

I do think he gets mentioned by Vader during the meeting where he chokes that one guy, but we don't see or hear Emperor Chimpanzeyes until he shows up in hologram form in ESB.

MasterGhandalf Since: Jul, 2009
#12010: Jun 18th 2017 at 8:34:49 PM

Tarkin mentions him a couple of times, most obviously when informing the officers on the Death Star that the Emperor has dissolved the Senate.

EndlessSea LEGENDARY GALE from oh no you don't Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
LEGENDARY GALE
#12011: Jun 18th 2017 at 11:51:11 PM

Yeah, both Rey's theme and Kylo Ren Arrives at the Battle have some okay moments to them, but for the most part they aren't really doing anything for me.

Then again, I'm comparing them to stuff like Into the Trap and the Trade Federation March in my head, so that's probably not exactly fair. Eh. I've been spoiled.

but HOW?
Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#12012: Jun 19th 2017 at 12:19:29 AM

TFA's score goes for a quieter, more mysterious tone that makes me wish the movie itself followed suit more, rather than following the framework of ANH so closely. Rey's theme in particular has a piping, curious quality to it, putting me in mind of forest sprites and Princess Mononoke. Compare that with the more wistful sounds and swelling strings of Binary Sunset, and I just think it could've been interesting to emphasize that while Luke was a farmboy and in a way a very ordinary everyman sort of character, Rey grew up on her own, an orphan and a scavenger. She should be more of an outsider, an eccentric, but I don't feel like we get to see as much of that as I'd have liked.

TheAirman Brightness from The vicinity of an area adjacent to a location Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
Brightness
#12013: Jun 19th 2017 at 7:51:19 AM

There's also the thing where Abrams gave John Williams virtually no time to work on it unlike the rest of the films.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#12014: Jun 19th 2017 at 9:51:25 AM

I got the impression that what they were doing was deemphasizing the score and musical direction, so that it was accompaniment that was subservient to the plot/visuals rather than sharing the viewer's attention.

That's the norm for modern movies, especially action movies, where the modern idea is that the music should be there but the audience shouldn't focus on it or let it slow down the experience in any way.

But it's the opposite of how music works in Star Wars, where the leitmotifs and themes are as prominent in directing the scenes as the visuals - sometimes moreso. So what we got was something standard in a movie where people expect exceptional. And, quite rightly, people disliked that.

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#12015: Jun 19th 2017 at 11:04:44 AM

Yeah it was the same problem with the new Star Trek movies sadly.

I think only video games really still follow the old school music style of Star Wars and such sadly.

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AXTE INCAL AXTUCE MUN
#12016: Jun 19th 2017 at 11:13:39 AM

I think Michael Giacchino's Rogue One soundtrack felt more like classic Star Wars music than The Force Awakens did. Krennic's leitmotif fit right in alongside all the classic motifs, even if it didn't stick in my head quite as well. And apparently Giacchino was a last-minute replacement composer, so he was working under a similar time crunch.

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#12017: Jun 19th 2017 at 1:13:53 PM

Rogue One's soundtrack used pretty much the same tones and instruments that the original trilogy did. Just listening to the scrambling of the rebel fleet made it feel like a cut song from ANH.

VII really didn't do anything like it, many of the themes sounded more out of the prequel trilogy than anything. compare the march of the resistance.

edited 19th Jun '17 1:27:13 PM by Memers

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#12018: Jun 19th 2017 at 1:50:36 PM

Apparently John Williams was recovering from a stroke and VII was the first big score he did since then which might have impacted things.

Pseudopartition Screaming Into The Void from The Cretaeceous Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Screaming Into The Void
#12019: Jun 19th 2017 at 2:45:01 PM

There's also the thing where Abrams gave John Williams virtually no time to work on it unlike the rest of the films.
Michael Giacchino only had a few weeks for his Rogue One score, I know that. Maybe this is the new normal?

I liked the score though, some of it reminded me of William's Harry Potter scores, which I grew up learning to play. It could have been more bombastic, but I know a lot of people were expecting something like the score for the prequel trilogy, which wouldn't have fit at all.

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The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#12020: Nov 30th 2017 at 2:28:26 PM

Oh God help

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#12021: Nov 30th 2017 at 3:13:36 PM

"THE MUFFIN MAN?! *dramatic zoom*"

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar
#12023: Aug 4th 2018 at 4:34:14 AM

I still maintain that this is the coolest villain in the Sequel Trilogy.

I love these comments:

Captain Phasma was supposed to be the mysterious badass. But then this guy showed up.

Think about it, he could have easily shot Finn. But seeing that Finn only equiped melee weapons he chose to fight him man to man. And from his perspective, Finn actually was a traitor.

This guy might be to most honorable guy in the entire franchise.

[lol][lol][lol]

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