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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#226: May 7th 2022 at 5:54:44 AM

...Why!?

Who the fuck cares about bedsheets in a space sim!?

Disgusted, but not surprised
Bexlerfu Khatun of the Azim Steppe from Mol Iloh Since: Nov, 2020
Khatun of the Azim Steppe
#227: May 7th 2022 at 6:02:26 AM

[up][up] I know little about game development, but I know it shouldn't last 9 years and cost $400m.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#228: May 7th 2022 at 6:03:37 AM

It's not even a scam. It's worse — it's a creator's obsession with adding stuff to his pet project and no one around to tell him "NO".

Disgusted, but not surprised
Ultimatum Disasturbator from The Wiggle Room (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#229: May 7th 2022 at 6:27:08 AM

Oh my god, bedsheet physics,does it involve simulating sleeping on top of piles of backer monies?

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SgtRicko Since: Jul, 2009
#230: May 7th 2022 at 6:52:52 AM

This Reddit comment from CIG's post got a chuckle out of me:

This game is strong evidence that the universe is not a simulation. It's bedsheet crazy to simulate a world with this much granularity.

Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#231: May 7th 2022 at 7:28:18 AM

The funny thing is, if they crack that and share it around, a lot of developers are going to be very happy, because right now video game beds still look like crap. It's like how a few years ago some random game figured out how to animate putting on a jacket without clipping and people went crazy because no one had been able to figure out how to do so reliably.

That's assuming this works, and they share it around. And it's not worth hundreds of millions of dollars anyway.

Writing a post-post apocalypse LitRPG on RR. Also fanfic stuff.
SgtRicko Since: Jul, 2009
#232: May 7th 2022 at 7:56:22 AM

[up]Depends on how flexible Star Citizen's game engine is.

Recall that they initially wanted to use Cry Engine 3, but ultimately dumped it since while visually gorgeous, it was a horrible fit for open worlds and space-based travel. Might turn out the same if CIG's engine work is a cluttered, buggy mess, or designed specifically for Star Citizen's game engine and little else.

And your jacket reference... that was pointed towards Uncharted 4, wasn't it? tongue

Edited by SgtRicko on May 7th 2022 at 8:06:06 AM

Discar Since: Jun, 2009
SgtRicko Since: Jul, 2009
#234: Sep 24th 2022 at 3:07:37 AM

Star Citizen has finally obtained over half a billion dollars in crowdfunding. Jesus Christ.

And here's the fanbase's opinion on how "complete" Star Citizen currently is... or if it ever will be.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#235: Sep 24th 2022 at 3:35:32 AM

This is starting to sound more and more like a cult at this point. Was wing commander really that influential to have a customer base ready and willing to donate half a billion dollars?

Is there even a demo?

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
MarkVonLewis Since: Jun, 2010
#236: Sep 24th 2022 at 7:08:27 AM

This game is the video game equivalent of Scientology at this point.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from The Wiggle Room (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#237: Sep 24th 2022 at 7:17:13 AM

now imagine if they had return that half a billion in donations

aaaaa

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#238: Sep 24th 2022 at 9:21:34 AM

I would make the standard starving African children, but given the RL shit and horrors that's actually happening right now, I can't help but feel the half a billion dollars was a real tragic waste. And all for a game that's never coming out.

Fuck it, I'm donating some of my cash RN and some blood.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#239: Sep 25th 2022 at 1:19:04 AM

Gotta admit, if I had half a billion in crowdfunding for a game, I'd dash off a random piece of crap, quickly drop support and retire.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#240: Sep 25th 2022 at 1:33:58 AM

It'd almost be better if it was a scam. Because at least then there might be a point where the scammer decided to cash out and the whole sorry mess ends.

But it's not. This is just the result of a wannabe director who got stuck making games who has absolutely no checks on his ego and whims thanks to going with crowdfunding instead of an actual publisher. And the people who give him money just let him get away with all of this shit.

Think David Cage except without even the few constraints placed on him by the publishers who insist on a product being released someday.

It's a toxic blend of Chris Roberts' insatiable goalpost moving and the fans' Sunk Cost Fallacy.

Edited by M84 on Sep 25th 2022 at 4:35:15 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#241: Sep 25th 2022 at 1:58:13 AM

[up]

And this is why you usually keep the budgetary aspect of game development away from the guy with the ideas. tongue

It reminds me of when people let Peter Molyneux talk to the press and make unrealistic promises about his games, back when he hadn't fallen from grace and turned into a full-on scam artist yet.

Edited by DrunkenNordmann on Sep 25th 2022 at 10:59:59 AM

We learn from history that we do not learn from history
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#242: Sep 25th 2022 at 3:36:20 AM

I saw a video way back on a game called Chronicles of Elyria. It was an MMO that had this whole premise of being entirely player run, with stuff like players could be a king/queen merchant, peasant, adventurer, mob boss, miner, ETC. And had realistic features like you dying after a set amount of game time, and you had to create a kid to replace the PC you lost, with the idea of it being a 10 year adventure

And like it made around 4 million.

As one of the comments noted, it's like hearing a kid talk about how he'll make a car that can fly, shoot lasers, go into space, turn into a mech, make unlimited candy come out of the vents and then give billions of dollars to him with the full assumption he can make said car.

And now the dev in charge has to keep making monthly or so videos for the game or there will be a 8 million dollar lawsuit on his ass. Because there are still people who expect this game to be made.

I do wonder if the whole endgame with Star Citizen will just be Chris Roberts coming up with inane additions and people lapping it up.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Sep 25th 2022 at 6:43:07 AM

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Bexlerfu Khatun of the Azim Steppe from Mol Iloh Since: Nov, 2020
Khatun of the Azim Steppe
#243: Sep 25th 2022 at 4:18:15 AM

[up]x3 At this point, even if Roberts somehow believes he can create the game he has advertised, since many people are still pouring cash for something that will never exist, that counts as a scam in my book.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#244: Sep 25th 2022 at 4:26:24 AM

How many backers are in this Kickstarter anyway?

EDIT: 4 MILLION? Damn, guess Wing Commander really was that influential and popular back in the day.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Sep 25th 2022 at 7:27:23 AM

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#245: Sep 25th 2022 at 6:49:41 AM

Note also that the ratio is going up. At the start of this mess, it was an average of about thirty euros per person. A little on the high side, but nothing too surprising. Now, if 4 million people donated 500 million dollars, then it's over a hundred dollars per person on average.

That's insane.

Writing a post-post apocalypse LitRPG on RR. Also fanfic stuff.
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#246: Sep 25th 2022 at 6:55:18 AM

Seriously, did Wing Commander give Chris Roberts THAT much of a rep that he could build a cult that had fond memories of those games to give him money to add in inane bullshit?

Edited by RedHunter543 on Sep 25th 2022 at 9:56:05 AM

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Bexlerfu Khatun of the Azim Steppe from Mol Iloh Since: Nov, 2020
Khatun of the Azim Steppe
#247: Sep 25th 2022 at 7:16:17 AM

I would say many are deep within sunk cost fallacy territory.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#248: Sep 25th 2022 at 11:32:42 AM

As I understand plenty of people liked the alpha builds as games too.

But it's a shame because I really did love Wing Commander and Privateer.

I'd rather they get remade but Chris has kind of poisoned the well.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
SgtRicko Since: Jul, 2009
#249: Oct 24th 2023 at 12:36:21 AM

Been a whole year since anyone's posted here, eh?

We got some big news regarding the game. A new trailer for Squadron 42 - the campaign Star Citizen was originally intended to be based around - released yesterday during Citizen Con 2023, along with a showcase for Star Engine, the given name for the in-house dev engine Cloud Imperium utilizes.

Lots of new features and details announced, the biggest one being the addition of the Pyro System. Whereas the Stanton System had a clean industrial-corporate look, Pyro reminds me of Omega Station from Mass Effect; grimy, chaotic, broken down and full of unsavory types.

Edited by SgtRicko on Oct 25th 2023 at 5:37:02 AM

Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#250: Oct 26th 2023 at 7:33:33 AM

Star Citizen has its own gaming convention?

I agree with the older posters. This isn't a game, it isn't even a mere scam, it's a cult.


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