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Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#11726: Sep 16th 2018 at 11:00:02 PM

Which is just a bit weird that it'd automatically give you a female form. I mean, all the others have a kind of power that just....clicks and makes automatic sense with what they are, but nothing in the Female's arsenal really seems to gel with it needing to just be "female".

Still, Annie probably remains my favorite shifter for her arc.

Edited by Lightysnake on Sep 16th 2018 at 11:03:08 AM

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#11727: Sep 16th 2018 at 11:01:31 PM

I don't think it's been established you can use it if you're not female. So that might be a thing.

Envyus Since: Jun, 2011
#11728: Sep 16th 2018 at 11:16:35 PM

Most of the titans names are based on their appearance. Armored is called as such cause he is covered in armor, Colossal because he is big, Jaws because it has strong teeth, Female because it looks like a woman.

I think that is the extent of it.

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#11729: Sep 16th 2018 at 11:32:25 PM

So Female Titan Eren would be Eren with boobs.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#11730: Sep 16th 2018 at 11:34:52 PM

Doesn’t it crystallize?

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Envyus Since: Jun, 2011
#11731: Sep 17th 2018 at 1:18:41 AM

[up]yes but it does not look like a crystal.

Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#11732: Sep 17th 2018 at 12:09:03 PM

Crystalize the titan body or the human one?

harostar Since: Feb, 2010
#11733: Sep 17th 2018 at 2:13:56 PM

Yeah, I think everyone has been sort of ??? about the Female Titan as opposed to the others. It's a Jack of All Stats type with numerous watered-down versions of others' abilities (The Scream, Hardening). But there's no indications as to whether there's more unique about it beyond its highly-feminine form in comparison to other Titans.

wild mass guessCompletely throwing out random theories, but perhaps its association as the "Female" came less from its specific form (as the Founding and War Hammer both look similarly female when used by women) and more with the specific clan that once controlled it. If that particular clan had a tradition of only passing it on to women, it may have become associated as the Female Titan over time.

Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#11734: Sep 17th 2018 at 3:01:39 PM

I guess. It just seems weird this is the one Titan that has a specificlly female shape, as opposed to just...being a Titanized form of the wielder

harostar Since: Feb, 2010
#11735: Sep 17th 2018 at 3:20:59 PM

[up] Hence my wild, random guessing that perhaps it isn't like that. It'd make more sense, I think, if the name comes from Tradition as opposed to "lol this particular Titan always has boobs". Since that particular trait has been established to not be unique among the Nine Titans. I mean, I could be wrong and that IS just kind of how it is. But it seems inconsistent with what we've learned since discovering the truth about the Titans.

Of course, unless a dude inherits or inherited it at some point, it's kind of impossible to know for sure.

KZN02 Master of Tediousness Since: Nov, 2009
Master of Tediousness
#11736: Sep 17th 2018 at 4:05:19 PM

I just realized how similar Eren's rescue of Mikasa when they were children is to Eren's infiltration of Marley. Pretending to be a harmless person, going against his superiors' orders, and getting bailed out by others.

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Kostya from Everywhere Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#11737: Sep 17th 2018 at 4:57:13 PM

I've had suspicions for a while that the Female Titan has some special trait or power that we don't know about yet. It would explain why Isayama is waiting so long to reintroduce Annie.

Of course it's possible the Scream she has is the special power. It's like a more limited form of the Founding Titan's. She can't control Titans but she can attract them.

Edited by Kostya on Sep 17th 2018 at 7:56:39 AM

TheAirman Brightness from The vicinity of an area adjacent to a location Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: It's so nice to be turned on again
Brightness
#11738: Sep 17th 2018 at 5:10:26 PM

Doesn't Reiner do the same thing during Clash of the Titans?

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Kostya from Everywhere Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#11739: Sep 17th 2018 at 5:12:18 PM

Does he? I thought the swarm of Titans was summoned by the Scouts charging near a mass of them.

Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#11740: Sep 17th 2018 at 5:14:13 PM

Honestly, you can probably count on one hand the number of circumstances that power will actually be useful in.

Kostya from Everywhere Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#11741: Sep 17th 2018 at 5:15:51 PM

The Cart Titan doesn't seem incredibly helpful either without the Panzer unit. The Attack Titan also lacks special powers unless the quickened regeneration in the anime was a very early preview of something Eren will do later.

Ikedatakeshi Baby dango from singapore Since: Nov, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Baby dango
#11742: Sep 17th 2018 at 5:39:55 PM

Doesn't the cart Titan has the ability to stay transformed for a long time and speed? Not to mention the non-combat uses.

Wispy Since: Feb, 2017
#11743: Sep 17th 2018 at 8:26:59 PM

In regards to the Titan horde chasing Reiner and the scouts. Reiner and Bertolt already had a small horde of Titans shadowing them even before they noticed the scouts were coming and they had to make an run for it. Erwin intentionally led another horde towards Reiner and Bert.

I think the only Titan we have seen that can call Titans from a while away was the Female Titan and judging by it it's not really that useful of an ability as without 3DMG maneuver gear or another Shifter to cover her she would of gotten eaten really fast. Beyond that her Titan is likely an Jack of All Trades.

The Attack Titan seems to be endurance based. Can push through a lot of pain and exhaustion that the Titan forms bring. Also really strong in hand to hand combat

Edited by Wispy on Sep 17th 2018 at 8:29:24 AM

TheAirman Brightness from The vicinity of an area adjacent to a location Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: It's so nice to be turned on again
Brightness
#11744: Sep 17th 2018 at 11:14:46 PM

Oh I think I was thinking of when he was at the wall signalling to Bert.

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Wispy Since: Feb, 2017
#11745: Sep 18th 2018 at 1:55:27 AM

If I recall correctly that was Annie that drew them in, she just couldn't make it the full way so Reiner picked up the rest of the run. The Smiling Titan/Dina did calmly walk past Bertolt though, she even looked at him while he was completely vulnerable and could of done nothing to prevent her from eating him and she just walked past.

I guess there is some abnormal Titans that won't run around in hordes like Dina's but they seem to be rare. Even more unusual is most if not all titans seem to target an shifter immediately when they see them so I am not sure why Dina's never did.

Edited by Wispy on Sep 18th 2018 at 2:01:42 AM

TheAirman Brightness from The vicinity of an area adjacent to a location Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: It's so nice to be turned on again
Brightness
#11746: Sep 18th 2018 at 8:09:44 AM

Not Shiganshina, after he spills the beans and Eren kicks his ass outside Wall Rose.

As for the Dina thing, it’s implied that it has to do with her being royal and vowing to find Grisha again as she was titanized. Hence her ignoring BRA and going straight to the Jaeger household, of all things. And then in Clash of the Titans where she winds up in front of Eren again and only stops making a beeline for him long enough to deal with Sannes. Something something P A T H S

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Kostya from Everywhere Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#11747: Sep 18th 2018 at 1:46:01 PM

So I never thought about this but now I'm wondering. Suppose Smiling Titan actually found Grisha somehow. Would she have eaten him or not? She's clearly an abnormal and we've seen another Titan that didn't eat a human that's significant to them.

harostar Since: Feb, 2010
#11748: Sep 18th 2018 at 8:27:44 PM

[up] That's the million dollar question, isn't it?

Though considering that Grisha was nearly out of time by then, he probably would have voluntarily fed himself to the Smiling Titan. Save her from being trapped as a mindless Titan, pass the Attack Titan on to an ally, and give it to someone of Royal blood.

It certainly would have changed things significantly, if Grisha had been home when Wall Maria was attacked.

harostar Since: Feb, 2010
#11749: Sep 18th 2018 at 8:39:50 PM

And concerning the Titan Screaming....

The Female Titan is the only one that has demonstrated the ability to lure Titans with her voice. Zeke can control his Titans with his scream, which is because of his royal blood as opposed to an ability of his Titan.

The Armored Titan doesn't have that ability, though he uses screaming as a means to signal allies during battle. They thought Reiner was screaming to summon Titans like Annie did, but he was actually doing it to signal for Bertolt to help him. Similarly, during the climatic battle, he screamed to signal for Zeke to throw the Colossal bomb over the city.

In terms of uses, I'd imagine it's exactly as we saw Annie use it during the flashback chapters. Her Titan is one of the fastest ones, so it would be useful to the Eldian Empire or Marley as a means to direct their forces towards a target. She leads the horde towards the enemy forces, and lets them be devoured while she escapes. A means to control a mindless horde without requiring their King to be present all the time.

But yeah, I would not be surprised if there's more to the Female Titan. I would really love to learn some of the history of the Nine, including more about the original clans that controlled them and maybe even some of their previous hosts. We really only know a little about the lineages of the Founding and Attack Titans, in terms of what the hosts have been like or had in common.

We know for example that this current generation of Warriors are unlike any before them. Trained from birth and offered benefits to earn their loyalty, as opposed to in the past when they had those chambers to drop Warriors into as punishment. We know nothing about the previous batch, other than the fact they were involved in a foreign war and were weaker than the Tyke Bomb variety we currently have.

Wispy Since: Feb, 2017
#11750: Sep 18th 2018 at 10:01:37 PM

[up][up]Makes me wonder if someone has tried to do an fanfiction of that Grisha was at home and fed himself to Dina's titan to transfer the power to her. That would change things up quite a lot.

[up]I really want an prequel that took place far in the past when Eldia was still a thing and we actually got to see how the wielders in those times were like.

We do have Before the Fall but that still takes place in Paradis during the 100 years inside of it.

I want to see how the old Empire was like.

Edited by Wispy on Sep 18th 2018 at 10:07:16 AM


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