Do you mean to imply, good sir, that you want to do a deconstruction?
Aaaaaaaaaand it looks like Mazinkaiser wins pretty much unanimously. Admittedly, I forgot to mention Mazinkaiser SKL which is even shorter, but I'd still rather work with Mazinkaiser than with SKL.
Okay... Here's the list compiled with some additions I got on what we can work on:
- Dexter's Laboratory (Yes, there are some super robots used by Dexter himself)
- Martian Successor Nadesico
- Megas XLR
- Neon Genesis Evangelionnote
- Neon Genesis Evangelion: Battle Orchestranote
- Neon Genesis Evangelion: Girlfriend of Steelnote
- Neon Genesis Evangelion RPG: The Nerv White Papernote
- Neon Genesis Evangelion 2note
- Rebuild of Evangelionnote
- Shinji Ikari Raising Projectnote
- Patlabornote
- Robotechnote
- Prelude to Shadow Chroniclesnote
- Robotech: The Shadow Chroniclesnote
- Robot Taekwon Vnote
- Space☆Dandynote
- Super Dimension Fortress Macrossnote
- Macross Frontier
- Macross Frontier: The False Songstressnote
- Macross Frontier: The Wings of Goodbyenote
- Macross 30: The Voice that Connects the Galaxynote
- Macross Ace/Ultimate/Triangle Frontiernote —> I have info on this. However, it's only available in Japanese.
- Super Robot Wars: Original Generation
- Tekkaman Blade
For the Gundam stuff, I don't know if we should do it starting from Zeta, though I want to add in the 2nd season of 00 aside from SEED and someone mentioned F91. I'm definitely not thinking about the Build Fighers 'verse. I'll add them in the list when I get some "more" feedback.
The said list is partial, but it should be updated before we can work on a story. I feel like adding my own OC as part of the SRW tradition...
edited 3rd Jun '14 11:52:47 PM by Ominae
I've actually played Girlfriend of Steel, shouldn't be too hard to make a chapter or two out of its plot if we so wish. Just have to figure out 1) how we resolve it in-fic, and 2) where exactly in the timeline to put it.
Also, two questions regarding Nadesico: 1) are we doing The Movie, and if not, 2) can I change up the shipping a teensy bit?
I'm a little confused on your notes regarding the Macross stuff.
@GOS
- That is a good idea. Perhaps in the middle of the series. I guess we don't include the Angels that are in concept only.
@Nadesico
- Haven't seen much of the stuff, but I thought there was a lot of criticism on the movie. And the shipping change? I have nothing against making some changes.
@Macross stuff
- For the Macross stuff, it's relegated to Frontier in terms of story and character involvement. But there are some variable fighters taken from the earlier Macross games and unused designs that can be used. Not to mention the main character from the 30th Anniversary Game.
Here's all of the OG pilots from the Macross PSP games.
Be warned that it's in Japanese.
Any further replies/queries/thoughts for me will have to wait until tomorrow since I need to sleep soon.
Perhaps as soon as we can agree on the list, the story and title can be worked out, including where to post the said story.
edited 3rd Jun '14 7:33:23 AM by Ominae
Myself, I'd put Girlfriend of Steel somewhere in EVA's "Golden Age", that is, between when Asuka shows up, and before Bardiel. Actually, come to think of it, Leliel is more the true Knight of Cerebus for EVA...
Thinking on it further, I'd probably put GOS between Matarael and Sahaquiel.
re:Nadesico: I actually liked The Movie a lot more than I did the conclusion of the series. But then, I think Nadesico had an intentionally crappy ending anyway. As for shipping, I was just going to have Akito end up relegating Yurika from Love Interest to "that adorably precocious little sister you see all the time in anime", and eventually just sort of... gravitate more toward Ryoko for Official Couple.
@Macross: So plot-wise, we're using the Robotech version of SDF Macross, and Macross Frontier, with everything else being a source of supplemental charas/units?
Also, let the record show that as of this edit, it is 11:05 AM my time. If we're going to work as a team, we should probably make a note of the time differences we're working on.
edited 3rd Jun '14 8:05:29 AM by EvaUnit01
Updating the list again:
- Dexter's Laboratory (Yes, there are some super robots used by Dexter himself)
- Martian Successor Nadesico
- Megas XLR
- Neon Genesis Evangelionnote
- Neon Genesis Evangelion: Battle Orchestranote
- Neon Genesis Evangelion: Girlfriend of Steelnote
- Neon Genesis Evangelion RPG: The Nerv White Papernote
- Neon Genesis Evangelion 2note
- Rebuild of Evangelionnote
- Shinji Ikari Raising Projectnote
- Patlabornote
- RoboCop (2014)note
- Robotechnote
- Prelude to Shadow Chroniclesnote
- Robotech: The Shadow Chroniclesnote
- Robot Taekwon Vnote
- Space☆Dandynote
- Super Dimension Fortress Macrossnote
- Macross Frontier
- Macross Frontier: The False Songstressnote
- Macross Frontier: The Wings of Goodbyenote
- Macross 30: The Voice that Connects the Galaxynote
- Macross Ace/Ultimate/Triangle Frontiernote —> I have info on this. However, it's only available in Japanese.
- Mazinkaiser
- Super Robot Wars: Original Generation
- Tekkaman Blade
Here's a partial Gundam list. Don't know if these would be fine...
- Mobile Suit Zeta Gundamnote
- Mobile Suit Gundam Unicornnote
- Mobile Suit Gundam F91note
- After War Gundam X
- Mobile Suit Gundam SEEDnote
- Mobile Suit Gundam 00 (2nd Season)note
- Gundam 00 Sidestories (Some characters/mobile suits from OOF/00V/OOI
@Macross stuff
- Yeah. Although for Shadow Chronicles and Frontier, they exist later in the future. I don't know on how to pull this off except the story progress through the future via time warp or something.
@Time
- Got it. Currently, I'm in the UTC +8 timezone (Hong Kong, Manila).
I still kind of question the inclusion of Dexter's Lab, but whatevs. I'm actually kind of surprised that nobody's mentioned Mighty Morphin Power Rangers yet... and for the record, if we do go with that, I would suggest only picking and choosing stuff from the first season (by which I mean, the first 40 episodes, from "Day of the Dumpster" to "Doomsday").
I've never heard of Gundam Sentinel, but if we're using Zeta, any chance we can use ZZ? Or are we using the movies for Zeta, instead of the series? Because the movies kinda screw over ZZ. Also, in all honesty, I'd rather use the first season of 00 instead of the second, but maybe that's just me.
Also, on the difference between SDF and Frontier... canon SRW has crunched assorted Gundam shows that had years between them In-Universe into being just weeks apart in-game. Or so I'm told.
edited 4th Jun '14 8:29:27 PM by EvaUnit01
@Ominae: Speaking of Dexter, could you include that episode where Dexter turns into a Monster Clown when he laughs? This episode would work because it would give Dee Dee and her robot an interesting upgrade.
edited 4th Jun '14 8:35:07 PM by josh6243
@Eva
- I remember someone talking about the possible inclusion of the first Power Rangers show (Although that kinda included Lost Galaxy) with Terra Venture present as a location.
On DL anyway, I know that Dexter himself made a couple of Super Robots for himself (One was made as a homage to Super Sentai). One was... a super prototype that went haywire.
On the Gundam stuff, I'm thinking of using the movies, which means that any events to Double Zeta may be negated. And yeah on the 00 stuff, I prefer the second season. But if someone else wants to chime in on it, let me know. Personally, I placed it there 'cause of the A-LAWs having awesome mobile suits, especially Mr. Bushido's. Oh yeah, Gundam Sentinel takes place near the end of the original Zeta Gundam as far as I remember from reading the stuff on it.
I remember that in the Alpha series, the original Macross and Plus were playable characters working together. So yeah, we can do that.
@josh
- Been a while since I saw that episode anyway. I may have a reference to that...
PS - I forgot to add the Musha Gundams and the Knight Gundam from the Dynasty Gundam games!! CRAP!!
@list
- I think the list should be enough now. I want to include this, but I'm afraid that adding this may be too much
. I can probably get the base story going.
I've still only seen a few eps of 00 S2, but if we're using it, can we at least have the first Lockon Stratos instead of his IMO less-awesome brother?
The main other comment/complaint/remark/suggestion I can think of, is maybe trim down the number of All There in the Manual stuff?
Yeah, may as well trim much stuff down except for the "importante" stuff.
And I have no problems with the first Lockon than the second one, although both are cool in my book. A way to "keep" him alive can be done anyway.
@Misc to all
- Went to look at Viper's Creed with the English version. Didn't know that a HD version exists. Though I may have to buy it from them.
Examples of what I personally might cut: 00 sidestories unless we're using plot elements from them, Shadow Chronicles and prelude thereto, Macross 30 and Macross Ace, NGE: the White Paper and Raising Project and maybe Battle Orchestra.
Also, didn't we decide that we were going to try and find a way to work in Girlfriend of Steel's plot as well, instead of just Mana, her army buddies, and the T-RIDEN-Ts?
Also, I'd probably advise against adding further, this looks like a full enough plate already.
Also, a lot of your Gundam notes refer to MSV. What is that, exactly?
edited 4th Jun '14 9:44:11 PM by EvaUnit01
MSV is mobile suit variations. Official variants approved by Yoshiyuki Tomino and/or Sunrise.
@cutting
- You're right about cutting some stuff yeah. I don't plan on using all characters taken from other stuff. However the Macross 30th Anniversary game, I plan to use one character from the game only. Same goes with some of the variable fighters taken from the past Macross shows/OVAs.
And yeah, looking at the list again, I don't plan to add anymore since it may be just extra work for us (and anyone else wanting to help out).
Thinking about it, I think it's worth cut most of the 00 gaiden stories except for Fon Spaak and use his character story in the 2nd season (and his mobile suit).
I'm surprised no one objected to Space Dandy.
I'll get a new list up and see what else I may have to remove.
PS - Haven't seen After War Gundam X since I don't have access to it and it never aired on Philippine TV.
I actually kind of object to Space Dandy too, just not as much as DL or the supplemental-for-extra-charas-and-mechas stuff.
On MSV: what, like Johnny Ridden?
I'm currently just a few episodes into After War Gundam X. It's a little short like MSG classic, since it was cancelled - in X's case, due to being Screwed by the Network into a crappy timeslot.
If you want, I can PM you a link to where I'm watching it. And hey, I haven't seen any Zeta Gundam, either, I just know stuff about it via Dynasty Warriors Gundam (including the ending to the Compilation Movies, versus the ending to the series).
And yeah, I initially included SD due to the Hawaii Yankee robot. I know the Jaicro Empire has some expies to the Banshee/Uniform Gundama alongside the Ideon aka the Armed Legendary Equipment Legendary Giant Weapon. Though the latter is useful.
@Gundam stuff
- You can? Cool. Feel free to shoot me one. I need to see how X looks like.
And yeah for Zeta. I'm more tempted to move into the movie remix. I haven't watched much Double Zeta, but I'm familiar with the story.
I'll work on the list tomorrow since it's 10 in the evening here (UTC +8 timezone) and I need to sleep soon.
For MSV, Johnny Ridden was from, IIRC, UC 0079 Sunrise material. But he's breaking out more lately, especially into more manga/games than any other MSV character.
edited 5th Jun '14 7:32:53 AM by Ominae
Ah, so your 10 PM is about 10:30 AM my time. Okaay, that makes things a bit simpler.
Gonna PM that Gundam X link here in a minute. I think ep 3 is when we first see the Satellite Cannon, and by Gundam is it glorious.
Okay, so as I understand it the series list is:
- Mazinkaiser
- Tekkaman Blade
- Martian Successor Nadesico
- Neon Genesis Evangelion
- The End Of Evangelion
- Neon Genesis Evangelion: Girlfriend of Steel
- Neon Genesis Evangelion 2 (JA-2 and related scenario only)
- Megas XLR
- Dexters Laboratory
- Patlabor (Movie/OVA continuity)
- Robocop 2014 (ED-209 only)
- Robotech: The Macross Saga
- Robot Taekwon V (first movie only)
- Space Dandy
- Macross Frontier
- Super Robot Wars Original Generation (charas and mechs primarily)
- Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam (Compilation Movies)
- Mobile Suit Gundam Unicorn
- Mobile Suit Gundam F 91
- After War Gundam X
- Mobile Suit Gundam SEED
- Mobile Suit Gundam 00 S2
After serious consideration, I decided to further revamp the list with Eva's input in weeding out stuff that may not be necessary and revamped some others to make it okay.
- Dexter's Laboratorynote
- Martian Successor Nadesico
- Anime/Mazinkaiser
- Mazinkaiser vs Great General of Darkness
- Megas XLR
- Neon Genesis Evangelionnote
- Neon Genesis Evangelion: Girlfriend of Steelnote
- Neon Genesis Evangelion 2note
- Rebuild of Evangelionnote
- Patlabornote
- Robotechnote
- RoboCop (2014)note
- Robot Taekwon Vnote
- Macross Frontiernote
- Macross Frontier: The False Songstressnote
- Macross Frontier: The Wings of Goodbyenote
- Macross 30: The Voice that Connects the Galaxynote
- Macross Ace/Ultimate/Triangle Frontiernote
- After War Gundam X
- Mobile Suit Zeta Gundamnote
- Mobile Suit Gundam Unicorn
- Mobile Suit Gundam F91
- Mobile Suit Gundam SEED
- Mobile Suit Gundam 00 (2nd Season)note
- Mobile Suit Gundam 00Inote
- Dynasty Warriors: Gundamnote
- Super Robot Wars: Original Generationnote
- Tekkaman Blade
I better start working on the story for this little shindig.
Questions:
1) why are we still using "characters and mechs only" with Girlfriend of Steel?
2) What is EVA-08? I only know of Interim EVA-05, due to not having seen 3.0 yet.
3) What is your plan for Knight and the Mushas? Knight Gundam, given that he actually has some amount of character beyond the game's Excuse Plot, probably is best being Hand Waved as from Another Dimension. Maybe the Musha's are from the same alien civilization as the Turn X Gundam?
edited 6th Jun '14 8:02:16 PM by EvaUnit01

Huh? But that's kind of bare-bones, isn't it, if it's just those five?
I mean, yeah, we have the requisite Gundam entry, but not even a Mazinseries?
What's the world coming to when an SRW goes on without a Mazin robot in it?
Quick poll, vote for 1: classic Mazinger Z, Great Mazinger, UFO Robo Grendizer, Mazinkaiser, or Shin Mazinger.
Going to put in my vote for Mazinkaiser because it's pretty short and shouldn't really take a whole lot of effort to work with.