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Desertopa Not Actually Indie Since: Jan, 2001
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#26: Aug 8th 2012 at 7:10:08 PM

Anyway, leaving The Southpaw alone for now, I'm not sure I see Everyone Is Right Handed as a distinct trope, other than in limitations with games and similar things. In media without those limitations, it's just not true, and most of the time, which hand a character uses won't even come up. To assume everyone is right handed is faulty in its own, so I don't see a trope beyond those technical limitations.

Cases where this is enforced by technical limitations are the only situation where I would see this as a distinct and legitimate trope, but in that case do we even have enough examples to make it pageworthy?

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#27: Aug 9th 2012 at 2:32:18 AM

I'm not sure even that would count, on a closer look. It's really on the same level as Ambidextrous Sprite, which assumes the character doesn't really use both hands. I'd make the same assumption for 3D models with that limitation.

Actually, that seems like a contradiction in the description. It automatically assumes an Ambidextrous Sprite doesn't actually represent the character in full truth because it's something technical limitations prevent showing, but doesn't extend the same assumption to 3D characters.

My current opinion is that cutting is the best choice of action or recreating it as a supertrope for "left-or-right-handedness means something" type tropes (The Southpaw, A Sinister Clue, The Killer Was Left-Handed, Ambidextrous Sprite, more?).

The latter could include some examples that don't fit in the subtropes, but never examples that doesn't use it as a trope, which is what this page currently is (generally).

edited 9th Aug '12 2:32:39 AM by AnotherDuck

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#28: Aug 15th 2012 at 7:07:12 AM

Ambidextrous Sprite is much broader than just handedness. It wouldn't be a subtrope.

I started a YKTTW for Left Handed Mirror, since on reflection it struck me as a valid trope we were missing.

edited 15th Aug '12 7:07:57 AM by ccoa

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#29: Sep 17th 2012 at 10:40:34 AM

I see two options proposed here: Cut the trope or rework into a supertrope/index for handedness tropes.

Any others?

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Kernigh Since: Sep, 2012
#30: Oct 17th 2012 at 7:30:16 PM

Those seem to be the only options: cut the trope, or rework it into a supertrope or index. A rework might cause a rename: it would be strange if A Sinister Clue and The Southpaw were subtropes of "Everyone Is Right Handed". It might be easier to cut the trope and create a new index.

Might want to list straight examples of Everyone Is Right Handed. Here is one:

  • NetHack implies that all player characters hold weapons in their right hand. The only way to show this is to put a ring on your right hand, then wield a cursed one-handed weapon. Try to remove your ring. You can't, because the curse welded your weapon to your right hand.

Such examples might be Too Rare To Trope, or Not A Trope.

edited 17th Oct '12 7:30:53 PM by Kernigh

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#31: Oct 17th 2012 at 7:36:35 PM

I think there's a Video Game-specific trope to be found here, where software limitations make all characters right-handed, in the same vein as Ambidextrous Sprite as I mentioned before. The above Net Hack example is one of those.

edited 17th Oct '12 7:37:56 PM by AnotherDuck

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#32: Oct 17th 2012 at 10:48:46 PM

I was thinking as I reread thread of the possibility of broadening it into a supertrope for chirality, so I'm glad someone already brought it up. :P Am I correct in supposing that that would also involve trimming The Southpaw down to only examples of left-handedness being an athletic or martial advantage?

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Escher Since: Nov, 2010
#33: Oct 18th 2012 at 7:24:00 AM

If this trope is, as it seems to be, "everybody is presumed right handed in fiction unless they're specifically left-handed as a plot device or characterization", the trope isn't right handers being common. The trope is Significant Left Handedness. Vote for cut as we already have tropes about lefthandedness as a plot device or charactterization.

edited 18th Oct '12 7:25:16 AM by Escher

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#34: Oct 18th 2012 at 8:31:37 AM

I vote for cut as well. Simply being right handed is PSOC. It's like "Everyone is human" in a historical fiction. We should have a trope for where one's handedness is an important plot point, but it seems as if that's already covered in A Sinister Clue and The Southpaw.

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#35: Dec 9th 2012 at 5:18:01 AM

This is my favourite example on the page:

While this has no plot bearing, Nanoha from Lyrical Nanoha is left-handed.

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#36: Dec 9th 2012 at 5:26:09 AM

^I wonder if that would make a good quote on People Sit On Chairs.

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#37: Jan 3rd 2013 at 8:43:03 AM

Bump for votes.

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#38: Jan 3rd 2013 at 9:31:27 AM

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#39: Jan 7th 2013 at 9:14:30 AM

VOTES!

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#40: Jan 10th 2013 at 2:09:43 AM

Calling. Both options have consensus. EXECUTE.

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#41: Jan 10th 2013 at 3:53:00 AM

Done and done. Please review the rewrite of The Southpaw if possible.

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#42: Jan 13th 2013 at 2:07:31 AM

Was cut. Requesting lock.

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9th Dec '12 5:02:45 AM

Crown Description:

Everyone Is Right Handed claims to be an Omnipresent Trope and only lists aversions. Left-handedness as a clue for evil are listed under A Sinister Clue, while The Southpaw covers left-handedness as an advantage.

It has 16 wikilinks, and 68 off-site inbound links.

Options are not necessarily mutually-exclusive.

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