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IncognitoNinja Gravity Beams and BIDIBIDIBIDIBIDI Since: Nov, 2015 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
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#2876: Sep 4th 2018 at 12:11:43 AM

I would honestly love to read YouTube's terms are when it comes to allowing ad revenue for content creators.

Anyway, the one thing I look for in an ad is the brand or what product/service they promote. If they can't establish that in the first few seconds, then they suck as advertisers. (The other thing I look for in an ad is whether whatever they're promoting would be something I'll need or want—and most of the time, either I don't need them or I'm already using them, which makes the ads for stuff I already use effing redundant.)

Also another thing that sucks: Deliberately turning off adblocker software for YT channels the viewer wants to support with ads, and no ads play anyway. Either that or the ads follow the classic "give them an inch, they'll take a mile" maxim and play a five-minute long or longer ad. (Greedy cu-[♪SKELETON WARRIORS♫])

Oh, and online advertising companies aren't about to live down being notorious vectors for malware, especially since they lack any sort of quality control (like Steam when it comes to asset-flip shovelware).

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Silasw A procrastination in of itself from a handcart heading to Hell Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#2877: Sep 4th 2018 at 3:10:05 AM

I don’t watch ads because I’m interested in what they’re selling, I watch them as payment to the You Tuber that I want to watch. Also I tend to alt tab and let the ad play in the background, as that still generates revenue.

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#2878: Sep 4th 2018 at 8:39:15 PM

Kinda hard to do on a Smart TV, but oh well...

Also, I was about to ask how exactly do you turn off your adblocker for YT in one tab (to allow ads to play) and have another tab that also has YT with the adblocker on. (I'm using uBlock Origin, so I know it doesn't work that way.) And then I realized, you just open a tab to surf something else.

The content creators don't have control over what ads play on their channels, do they? (I'll still stick with my stance that content creators should still get income from advertisers regardless of whether the latter's ads are skipped or not.)

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Silasw A procrastination in of itself from a handcart heading to Hell Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#2879: Sep 5th 2018 at 3:49:55 AM

I think there may be some control over if there are non-skipable ads or not, but they certainly don’t have any control over the ad content. It’s caused a bit of a stir when anti-LGBT groups started buying ad space on LGBT channels and running hate ads.

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kyun Since: Dec, 2010
#2880: Sep 5th 2018 at 7:34:59 AM

If by hard, you mean impossible, then yes. On a Roku at least, in the Youtube app, you CANNOT skip an ad unless you navigate away from the video and then back INTO it.

powerpuffbats Goddess of Nature Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#2881: Sep 7th 2018 at 9:38:15 PM

I really wish ads wouldn't randomly cut into the video.

I'd rather have them be either solely at the beginning, or solely at the end of a video.

Edited by powerpuffbats on Sep 7th 2018 at 11:41:12 AM

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#2882: Sep 8th 2018 at 8:22:25 PM

ASMR has gotten fricking big and that is... quite terrifying to me. I was joking about Youtubers becoming the new wrestlers/rockstars - but now I'm seeing news articles blowing up over how extensive the ASMR community is.

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#2883: Sep 8th 2018 at 8:48:15 PM

So, i'm hearing a lot about this T-Series group that could surpass Pewdiepie in subscribers and there is a lot of memes about it.

Basically indian Vevo, i don't what the deal is with that channel and how quickly it rose up to the top. Are all indians contractually obliged to subscribe to T-Series? tongue

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#2885: Sep 9th 2018 at 8:26:31 AM

Autonomous Sensory Meridian Response. It's a kind of "tingle"-like feeling that usually starts on your scalp before going down the rest of your body, you might've experienced it during things like trips to the barber or when someone's speaking in a quiet, calming voice.

ASMR videos are designed to elicit that response and can be used for anxiety relief, sleep aid, etc. due to the phenomena's calming nature. And... well, yeah! Can't say I interact with the actual community much but it's weird how big it's gotten as a side of YouTube. Not that I mind; I didn't know the damn thing had a name a few years back but I'm happy I know where to look for stuff like that now.

[up][up][up]On that note what's the outside-looking-in perception of ASMR from news articles? Lots of people seem to think it's really weird so I'm curious what a news article's take on the community would be like.

Edited by NesClassic on Sep 9th 2018 at 8:26:20 AM

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#2886: Sep 9th 2018 at 9:04:05 AM

Mostly seems to be "wow, look at this rising, inexplicable career! Here's what ASMR is for those of you at home! People are making money off of this - wow!"

Gentle Whispering ASMR and ASMR Darling seem to be the A-listers, the "face of ASMR" now. And that kind of bothers me. Not that I'd call anyone a "sellout," but I did prefer ASMR when it felt more like a colony of anonymous internet people with a strange hobby, not a growing, news-worthy community with figureheads and financial opportunity. Some ASMR-tubers are partnering with car brands and advertising things now.

I guess that's the fate of any trend though really. If you're good at something never do it for free. Further, the equipment, time, and effort that goes into these usually results in better videos and more frequent updating.

Edited by Soble on Sep 9th 2018 at 9:09:20 AM

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Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#2887: Sep 24th 2018 at 11:09:20 AM

Youtube's Creator Insider put up a video, where they "answered" the question on if monetization (or lack of thereof coz Youtube's algorythm) affects how videos are pushed.

They say no.

Problem is, this is something that's been repeatedly and easy demonstrated. So people aren't buying it. See the 2.1 K to 200 Dislikes to Likes ratio. This follows with a comment from them trying to again assure the thing everyone sees happening isn't.

Some folks believe we provided wrong information when Todd talked about whether monetizing a video increases views. To clarify: 1. Todd was actually answering a nuanced question specifically 'does turning on ads increase visibility'. The systems that run the search and discovery features don't get the signal of whether monetization is on or off. To test that simply take a video that has stable performance, turn off ads for the video for say an hour, observe the real time traffic in You Tube Analytics. If you see a drop let us know because there shouldn't be and that would be a bug.

2. The answer to the specific question 'is there a relationship between monetization and views on YT' is more nuanced. Whether a video has a yellow icon or not doesn't matter to our search and discovery systems. They are focused on delivering the best video to viewers. That doesn't mean that there couldn't be situations where the underlying reason for less ads or no ads is also used by search and discovery. For example, as some of your commentators noted, if a video is age gated or only appropriate for a subset of the audience it might get less ads. The decision about age gating or other such signals could also means that search and discovery might recommend the video less (because of age gating regardless of what ads systems decided). The ads decision to show a yellow icon for that video isn't passed on to the search and discovery systems. Todd answered that question in a previous video "You Tube Algorithm Questions Explained by You Tube Employees (Part 3)" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxRIUFyv_Rk 9:58 . As you will see he notes that there could be cases where at the same time that the ads systems decide to show less ads the search and discovery systems could make the same decision due to the underlying issue. So there could be a correlation but not causality.

Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Perpetually Confused
#2888: Oct 1st 2018 at 10:35:41 AM

Interesting video that points out that Jake Pauls' videos are actually illegal in most western country, as they violate a slew of laws on the use of minors and advertising towards minors.

lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#2889: Oct 3rd 2018 at 10:50:38 AM

The Sort by Upload Date filter was working fine until a few days ago, and now it bounces between 1 day ago, 1 week ago, 3 days ago, etc. without any rhyme or reason.

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ViperMagnum357 Since: Mar, 2012
#2890: Oct 3rd 2018 at 11:04:28 AM

[up]Saw that. Fortunately, these days I mostly navigate via subscribed channels. Speaking of something recent I did not find answers for: whenever I get a response to one of my comments on youtube, the bell in the top righthand corner shows twice the listed amount of fresh updates: ie, 1 unread comment shows up as a red '2', while 3 unread comments show up as a red '6', and so on. Anyone else have this problem over the last week+?

lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#2891: Oct 3rd 2018 at 2:03:55 PM

[up] I had that as well, though it seems fixed.

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#2892: Oct 4th 2018 at 3:47:18 PM

So has everyone heard what happened with Behind the Meme?

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#2893: Oct 4th 2018 at 3:56:56 PM
Thumped: This post was thumped by moderation to preserve the dignity of the author.
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pointless233 Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#2894: Oct 4th 2018 at 6:12:24 PM

[up] What that guy did was stupid but don't say that Net Neutrality needs to go because of idiots like him.

Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#2895: Oct 5th 2018 at 6:23:24 AM

[up][up] I don't even get how those things even relate to net neutrality and the need of IS Ps to treat content equally. Ya think ISP will throttle 4 chan?

You might as have ended with "That's why lactose needs to go"

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#2897: Oct 9th 2018 at 11:57:37 AM

It told Buzz Feed that the channel had been demonetised, which is likely to mean that ad revenue it generates has been shifted to other, similar channels.

Mr Rylett is one of the founders of Seven Awesome Kids, which boasts 178 million subscribers over its seven channels:

It told Buzz Feed that the channel had been demonetised

demonetised

That's like... that's like the spear that stabbed Christ shooting out of the sky and impaling you right before the cuff you. This man, this Mr. Rylett, is so f-cked now that he's been demonestised, let me tell you. Good show Youtube. Vestigial gestures that affect more than 1 person financially mean a lot to me, especially when you're so prompt about it.

Now go fix that thing where LGBT videos get blocked for being too sexual. And all of the rampant, foreign language softcore porn videos that pop up in my suggested list for no logical reason. And all of the plastic explosive tutorials.

Edited by Soble on Oct 9th 2018 at 11:59:35 AM

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Mullon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
#2898: Oct 15th 2018 at 7:59:34 AM

I'm starting to feel offended by what You Tube keeps recommending me. I have never shown any interest in Family Guy or The Office.

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#2899: Oct 16th 2018 at 6:16:48 PM

Seems Youtube has a glitch, and the site is down now.

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#2900: Oct 16th 2018 at 6:41:54 PM

[up]{{humormode: relax its just JC Denton destroying the servers in Area 51}}

Edited by Invincibleasshole on Oct 16th 2018 at 6:43:28 AM

You're going to pay a price for every bloody thing you do and everything you don't do. You don't get to choose to not pay a price.

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