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TheBigBean Wizard of science. from underground. Since: Dec, 2012
Wizard of science.
#21476: Jun 1st 2014 at 8:41:58 PM

Oh man. Poor Tony. tongue I was kinda hoping he would diss Godfrey through the interview and come out winning.

Also that Slade and Silvermane Friends opening thing had me laughing way too much.

RPGLegend Dipper fan from Mexico city Since: Mar, 2014
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#21477: Jun 1st 2014 at 8:42:17 PM

I am guessing Tony is a skrull (jk) I am hooked to see what happens next.

Forgiveness is beyond justice, faith is superior than hope, redemption is better than perfection and love is greater than them all.
MystyGlyttyr Bitch pills from Ship's Harbor Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
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#21478: Jun 1st 2014 at 8:48:00 PM

I'm resisting posting again because Strat's supposed to be in bed, but we're both really excited to finally put this plan into motion. [lol]

It's gonna get worse before it gets better.

Easing back into life one step at a time
Stratofarius huzzaaaaaaaah Since: Aug, 2011
huzzaaaaaaaah
#21479: Jun 1st 2014 at 8:48:29 PM

Okay, last post for reals.

I added more 'Blackfire being a good person who loves her sister although she doesn't show it' because you guys like it, and now I oddly find myself thinking a lot about her and Logan.

UdtheImp from Stamford, CT (Series 2) Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
#21480: Jun 1st 2014 at 8:50:31 PM

@Bean: Maybe Tony is actually winning but no one actually knows it besides Godfrey. Especially with the way he keeps glancing at the producers......tongue

DAMMIT MARK, STOP HITTING HELPY!!
gaunt88 from Australia Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
#21481: Jun 1st 2014 at 8:51:47 PM

I was thinking that Tony's water was drugged, but now I'm not sure tongue

RPGLegend Dipper fan from Mexico city Since: Mar, 2014
Dipper fan
#21482: Jun 1st 2014 at 8:52:22 PM

After zod's and star sapphire introduction I am wondering if you guys would be ok with making Star sapphire reasonably powerful to be a credible treat to the west coast JA. I now OP sucks but it's kinda hard to be a credible treat to Thor and wolverine without some raw power tongue.

Forgiveness is beyond justice, faith is superior than hope, redemption is better than perfection and love is greater than them all.
Sijo from Puerto Rico Since: Jan, 2001
#21483: Jun 1st 2014 at 9:04:36 PM

I have no problem with that, after all she is a Green Lantern foe.

Demovere Since: Dec, 2009
#21484: Jun 1st 2014 at 9:49:30 PM

Godfrey's possibly messing with the perception of either/both his or/and Tony's lines - for both the audience, and us.

Sijo from Puerto Rico Since: Jan, 2001
#21485: Jun 1st 2014 at 10:10:53 PM

I should point out (for reference) that (canonically) Stark did allow his tech to be used by at least some authorities (such as guards at supervillain prisons) for example with the Guardsman armor [1]. But note that at first the prototypes were indeed imperfect and gave the users mental problems. And later, during one of his "extreme" phases, Tony himself decided to destroy them all (the 'Armor Wars' incident.) So yeah who knows what's he's thinking right now. tongue

GameGuruGG Vampire Hunter from Castlevania (Before Recorded History)
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#21486: Jun 2nd 2014 at 2:22:13 AM

@RPG Legend's post about holding me up: It's alright... I'm actually just wondering what Morgan plans for Terra.

edited 2nd Jun '14 2:23:25 AM by GameGuruGG

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#21487: Jun 2nd 2014 at 4:49:12 PM

Sorry about the absence, folks. Now that University's over, I've spent my time wedged between a job-hunt and a video game. I'll do what I can in the morning, but here's hoping Tony gets a bail-out soon, because I can't help him there.

By the way, the little bit earlier about Reed Richards being a dick got me thinking, and I was reminded of something I read a while ago. Have a look at these, and see if your opinions alter any.

And a Strange Figure Emerges.
God_of_Awesome Since: Jan, 2001
#21488: Jun 2nd 2014 at 5:08:14 PM

I don't read comics much, but my impression is that he isn't consistently portrayed that way.

Unless the implication was that it's an act he puts on.

Sijo from Puerto Rico Since: Jan, 2001
#21489: Jun 2nd 2014 at 5:08:35 PM

[up][up]Oh, I've seen that. Nice angle, there. Thankfully many writers have done their best to explain or make up for Reed's less- brilliant moments.

Have I mentioned that The Fantastic Four have always been among my favorite Marvel characters? grin That doesn't mean I will forgive Reed his foolish or dickish moments, though.

Oh, and I have another idea I forgot to mention: Reed should be inspired to start a team by the Challengers of the Unknown (DC). I mean, not only are the similarities between the two groups too big to be coincidences (both are costumed scientific groups that research the paranormal and fight evil with advanced technology) but DC's team came first (they didn't have powers though.) (Also both team were cocreated by Jack Kirby so it's fitting.) Heck both teams came about due to ships crashing... I bet Reed and the CotU's Prof are even colleagues.

edited 2nd Jun '14 5:12:00 PM by Sijo

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#21490: Jun 2nd 2014 at 5:08:40 PM

I remember that story. The feels.

My various fanfics.
UdtheImp from Stamford, CT (Series 2) Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
#21491: Jun 2nd 2014 at 6:18:48 PM

[up][up]How about make the Challengers a superhero team during a periodwhen superheroes became a fad? After seeing the episodes of Batman The Brave And The Bold with them in it, I figured they be more of a precursor than something modern. I'm thinking they were active during the 60's, 70's, or even 80's, and Reed becoming influenced by them........to the point where even the fated space trip that gave the Fantastic Four their powers was somewhat influenced......

edited 2nd Jun '14 6:19:02 PM by UdtheImp

DAMMIT MARK, STOP HITTING HELPY!!
TailsDoll I have a plan. Since: Apr, 2012
I have a plan.
#21492: Jun 2nd 2014 at 7:15:01 PM

Hey Strat, I was playing Sectator. She surrendered.

"@[=g3,8d]&fbb=-q]/hk%fg"
Stratofarius huzzaaaaaaaah Since: Aug, 2011
huzzaaaaaaaah
#21493: Jun 2nd 2014 at 7:15:59 PM

-edits-

dunno what u talking about

TheBigBean Wizard of science. from underground. Since: Dec, 2012
Wizard of science.
#21494: Jun 2nd 2014 at 7:24:01 PM

Sorry, Tony, but She-Hulk just rode a fucking truck into evil Thor.

I need that on a shirt. I NEED IT

Sijo from Puerto Rico Since: Jan, 2001
#21495: Jun 2nd 2014 at 7:25:37 PM

Ud: That could work. In fact I think that in at least one Challengers series their being older heroes is canon, and they were replaced by a younger team (which in our universe could be Reed and company.) However I don't actually know much about that particular comic, research would be needed.

MystyGlyttyr Bitch pills from Ship's Harbor Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
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#21496: Jun 2nd 2014 at 7:29:06 PM

Agh.

Strat.

Writing this physically hurts me. [lol]

Easing back into life one step at a time
UdtheImp from Stamford, CT (Series 2) Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
#21497: Jun 2nd 2014 at 9:31:23 PM

You know when someone acts kinda loopy when having been administered enough painkillers to kill a small horse right after experiencing mind-breakingly intense pain and said painkillers have an almost immediate effect? That's what Wolverine is feeling right now.

edited 3rd Jun '14 8:49:16 AM by UdtheImp

DAMMIT MARK, STOP HITTING HELPY!!
Sijo from Puerto Rico Since: Jan, 2001
#21498: Jun 2nd 2014 at 9:57:57 PM

20th Century Part 2: World War II

A.D. September 1, 1939 Germany invaded Poland. Beginning of World War II.

Emperor Thakorr's step-son Byrrah convinced the Emperor to send Namor to the surface world. Dubbed the Sub-Mariner by air breathers, Namor made several attacks on the surface world.

The American government, realizing that war against Germany was probably imminent, and wishing to come up with an American counterpart to the Nazi agent the Red Skull, assigned Dr. Abraham Erskine to work on Project: Rebirth, a means to create perfect super-soldiers. Project Rebirth was part of Project M.

Pvt. Hank Heywood becomes the cyborg called Steel (DC). He is also part of Project M.

A.D. 1940 The Sub-Mariner attacked New York city. The android Human Torch (M) engaged the Sub-Mariner in battle. Impressed by the courage of New York policewoman Betty Dean, Namor agreed to call off his attack on New York and his battle with the Torch. The Human Torch promised Namor to attempt to arrange a truce between humans and Atlanteans. (This was the first public superhuman battle.)

Nov 9 Eight top “mystery-men” team up to save England from Hitler’s invasion fleet, then rescue President Roosevelt from a mystic attack on his life. At the suggestion of FDR, they form the America’s first super-hero group: the Justice Society of America (DC). Founding members are the Flash, Green Lantern, Dr. Fate, the Atom , Hawkman, Hourman , Sandman, and the Spectre (all DC). The Human Torch became an honorary member.

A.D. December, 1940 Horrified at the newsreel footage of the war in Europe, Steve Rogers decided to attempt to enlist in the American army. Ranked 4-F because he was physically weak and puny, Rogers began pleading to be accepted. Overhearing his requests, General Chester Phillips noticed that Rogers fit the profile of the type of man that Project: Rebirth was looking for. Phillips put the offer to Rogers to enlist in the project, and Rogers agreed. Rogers' body underwent a tremendous change, as the serum and the Vita-Rays transformed him into as physically perfect and fit a human being as could be. A Nazi spy who had been observing the experiment then burst into the laboratory, killing Dr. Erskine. Erskine had committed the formula to memory, and the only notes were later stolen by Nazi spies, thus Rogers was the only person to benefit from the Super-Soldier project.

A.D. Spring, 1941 Realizing that the Nazis were the true enemies of the Atlanteans, Prince Namor decided to seek out his enemy the Human Torch so that they might unite together to fight off the German threat. The Human Torch agreed.

A.D. March, 1941 After months of intensive training Steve Rogers was told the mission for which he was to be assigned. He was to be used as a patriotic symbol for which the American people could rally behind, and was also to be used to combat his Nazi counterpart, the Red Skull. Rogers was given the code-name Captain America (M) and a costume which would both conceal his identity and become a patriotic symbol, and was also given a bulletproof triangular shield. ''Note that although the Steel had preceded him, the military preferred Rogers for being "fully" human.)

A.D. April, 1941 [Late spring] Joan Dale, transformed by the top-secret Project M, creates the heroic identity of Miss America (DC). Her powers do not come from the super-soldier serum, but a different experiment; instead she transmutes matter.

A.D. June, 1941 The adamantium disk created by Dr. MacLain was presented to Captain America by American president Franklin Delano Roosevelt for use as his new bulletproof shield. The President also informed Captain America of the military's plans to set up a civilian cover identity for him. In his civilian guise of Steve Rogers, he would be enlisted in the army so he would be more readily available for secret missions.

A.D. Fall, 1941 Captain America was changing in his tent at Camp Lehigh when the base mascot James "Bucky" Barnes (M) witnessed Steve Rogers removing his mask. Rogers swore Barnes to secrecy, but Bucky begged his idol to train him as his side-kick.

The Red Skull and Captain America had their first encounter, and the two became quick enemies.

Captain America assessed Bucky Barnes as being worthy enough to join him in combat, and gave him a costume and allowed him to participate in missions with him.

[Sep 28?] The JSA (along with Dr. Mid-Nite (DC), Starman, and Hawkgirl(DC)) battles the villainous Ian Karkull (DC), who attemps to kill the next several U.S. presidents. Karkull’s chronal energies retard the aging of the heroes (plus Jay Garrick’s girlfriend Joan Williams).

The spirit of America (see 1776, 1812, 1861, 1871) bonds to a human host and returns again as Uncle Sam.

A second hero group forms: the non-powered Seven Soldiers of Victory (DC).

[Dec 7] The Japanese fleet attacks the American naval base at Pearl Harbor, Hawaii.

  • The United States enters World War II.
  • President Roosevelt calls for the formation of a mega-group of heroes, the All-Star Squadron (DC). All American superheroes (M, DC) active during WWII are part of it.
  • British Prime Minister Winston Churchill journeyed to Washington D.C. to engage in strategy talks with the American government. The Nazis, wishing to keep these talks from going ahead, sent their super-agent the Master Man (M) to assassinate Churchill. Captain America, Bucky, the Human Torch, Toro (M), and the Sub-Mariner learned of the plans and defeated Master Man before he could carry out his orders. Churchill was impressed with the super-heroes, and urged them to set aside their differences for the duration of the war, and for them to band together as America and Britain's unofficial Invaders (M). These Invaders remained together throughout the rest of the war. Note that while the A.S.S. protected the mainland, the Invaders acted in Axis-held territories.

The Inhuman exile Phaeder and his son Maelstrom, travelling the world incognito, met and shared knowledge in genetics with Arnim Zola.

Erik Magnus Lehnsherr (M), a prisoner at the Nazi death camp at Auschwitz, came down with hepatitis. Although Erik had previously demonstrated mutant abilities the disease, along with the appalling conditions at the camp, stopped the emergence of his powers during his adolescence.

Dec 8 The All-Stars attempt to invade Japan, but are rebuffed from Axis territory by a mystic “Sphere of Influence” created using the Spear of Destiny (DC), controlled by Hitler, and the Holy Grail, now in the hands of Japan's “Dragon King” (DC). Note that the Spell only affects people with magical powers or a weakness to magic.

Dec 10 FDR forms the OSS (Office of Special Services), headed by an agent code-named Control. (DC)

[Late Dec] The Manhunter cult secretly recruits another human agent, big-game hunter Paul Kirk (DC).

1942 While costumed “mystery men” protect the home front, countless hardy combatants, often bizarre but still mortal, fight the forces of oppression overseas—the most distinguished undoubtedly being Sgt. Frank Rock and the men of Easy Company (DC). Other notable wartime figures the Unknown Soldier (DC), the Creature Commandos (DC), as well as Rick Flag and the original Suicide Squad (DC).

[Late May] Miss America, recovered from a coma, joins the JSA—as its secretary.

[Apr 26-30] The Freedom Fighters (DC), a team formed by Uncle Sam, relocate to Washington, D.C.

A.D. June 1942 Colonel Sam Sawyer was forced to retire from combat duty after being injured in battle. Sawyer and Army Intelligence organized the First Strike Force, a squad of United States Army Rangers that came to be known as the Howling Commandos (M). Sawyer arranged for Sergeant Fury to be assigned to this team.

Madeline Joyce was visiting her uncle's lighthouse, which he had converted into a science laboratory to study and experiment with electricity. Joyce was exploring the lab when lighting hit the building. Bombarded by thousands of volts of electricity, Joyce was thrown into a week-long coma. Her exposure to electricity endowed her with increased vitality and the ability to negate gravity, giving her the power of flight. Joyce decided to establish herself as a costumed crime-fighter, calling herself Miss America (M). Upon realizing later that the name was already taken, she took a new one: ...Wonder Woman! (DC)

The Invaders were kidnapped and brainwashed by the Red Skull, although Bucky managed to escape. Breaking into a radio station, Bucky put a general plea over the airwaves in an effort to recruit super-heroes to fight the brainwashed Invaders. Blue Diamond, Jack Frost, Wonder woman, Red Raven, Thin Man, Whizzer, and the Patriot (all M) responded to Bucky's plea. They freed the Invaders from the effects of the brainwashing. They decided to join the All Star Squadron afterwards.

A.D. 1943 Sergeant Nick Fury was injured by a Nazi grenade. The damage to his left eye was only slight at the time, but Fury, realizing surgery would probably take him out of the War, opted not to be hospitalized. However over time Fury's sight in his left eye became progressively worse.

The Whizzer and Wonder Woman were engaged to be married. Soon after the they joined the Invaders.

The Red Skull, who was making plans to supplant Hitler as the head of the Nazi Party, aided Strucker in his fleeing to the Far East. The Skull assigned Strucker to organize a power base there. Reaching Japan, Strucker allied himself with members of the Japanese underworld and became the mastermind behind a secret society that was planning on world domination. This society, titled HYDRA (M) by Strucker, made a number of successful raids on war plants and equipment storehouses throughout the world. Deeming HYDRA strong enough for his motives, Strucker assassinated the head of the organization and became Supreme Hydra. Strucker broke off his ties with the Red Skull.

Baron Wolfgang Von Strucker organized a group of scientists to create high tech weaponry for his subversive organization HYDRA. These scientists would eventually become known as Advanced Idea Mechanics, or A.I.M. (M)

A.D. June 6, 1944 Logan (Wolverine, M), serving in the Canadian Military with the rank of Corporal, paratrooped into Normandy with his men. Sgt. Rock and Easy Company are part of the landing at Omaha Beach.

A.D. Summer 1944 Sometime before this Arnim Zola implanted his body into a clone.

The Red Skull, learning that Baron Strucker was developing a process of suspended animation, requested from the Baron samples of his experimental gases and elixirs.

Margaret "Peggy" Carter, beloved of Captain America and a member of the French resistance, was captured by the German Gestapo and held prisoner in Paris. During the city's liberation by the Allied forces a shell exploded near Carter and she was knocked unconscious. Although she recovered from her wounds the explosion left her amnesiac. Carter was identified by her fellow Resistance members and sent home to her family in America. Since Captain America had only known Carter by her code name he had no way of discovering her condition or whereabouts.

Late A.D. Summer 1944 In Auschwitz, as the Nazis began becoming more and more ruthless towards the prisoners, Erik Lehnsherr finally developed the urge to seek revenge on his captors and struck and killed a guard. Fleeing with another prisoner, Magda, the two escaped into the countryside. They wandered south into the Carpathian Mountains, where the two began rebuilding their lives. Erik and Magda fell in love with each other, and were eventually married.

Early A.D. 1945 Sergeant Nick Fury was in France when he was separated from his squad. Fleeing from a Nazi patrol, Fury stumbled into a field and set off a hidden mine. Fury was gravely injured, but saved from death by French Partisans, who brought him to Professor Sternberg, a local doctor. Sternberg operated on Fury, saving his life. However Sternberg was also experimenting with potions that would prolong life, and without Fury's knowledge decided to test his "Infinity Potion" on him.

Arnim Zola presented Adolph Hitler with technology that would preserve his consciousness after his death. Hitler, intrigued at the possibility that he would be able to live forever, began funding Zola's projects and allowed the scientist to take cell samples and a record of his brain patterns. Using these, Zola successfully cloned Hitler's brain. Zola then instructed Hitler on how to transfer his consciousness into the cloned brain whenever he chose.

Infuriated at his constant defeats at the hands of Captain America and Bucky, the Red Skull ordered Baron Heinrich Zemo to go to England and capture and kill the duo, under the fabrication of attempting to steal an experimental drone plane.

Captain America, learning of the plans of the Red Skull to construct doomsday devices, parachuted into Berlin to stop him. Defeating the Skull, the two were almost killed by an Allied air raid on Berlin. Captain America crawled from the rubble and was rescued by the Allies and returned to England. The Red Skull also survived the explosion. However in the attack a canister containing experimental gas was released and its effects caused the Red Skull to fall into suspended animation. The Red Skull remained undiscovered amidst the rubble for decades.

A.D. April 12, 1945 With the death of American President Franklin Delano Roosevelt the Invaders went on full alert. The Sub-Mariner was ordered to the Pacific to aid against Japanese kamikaze bombers. Spitfire and Union Jack were ordered to safeguard British Prime Minister Winston Churchill.

Allied intelligence, discovering Baron Zemo's plans to steal the experimental drone plane, assigned Captain American and Bucky to safeguard the project. Zemo however launched the plane towards Berlin. Knowing that the plane was booby trapped, Captain America and Bucky raced after it on a motorcycle. Leaping aboard, the duo started to crawl towards the bomb's trigger. However before they could disarm the bomb, the plane blew up in mid-air. Bucky was (apparently) killed, and Captain America fell into the Atlantic Ocean. The combination of the freezing water and the Super-Soldier serum in his blood threw Captain America into a state of suspended animation.

[Apr 15] The JSAers serve as honor guards at FDR’s funeral. They are then summoned by the Spectre to combat Hitler’s last-ditch attempt to destroy the world by invoking Ragnarok with the Spear of Destiny.

[Apr 30] Adolf Hitler dies in Berlin—slain in his own bunker by the Unknown Soldier. Before Hitler could activate a device that would destroy the bunker and everyone in it the Human Torch set him ablaze. As he was dying Hitler transferred his consciousness to the cloned brain which Zola had stored safely away.

The New York newspaper "The Daily Bugle" discovered that Captain America and Bucky had disappeared. They published an article, but the American government wished to keep this information secret and denied the truth. American President Harry Truman asked the costumed crime fighter the Spirit of '76 (M) to assume the role of Captain America. Fred Davis, a young boy who had aided Bucky Barnes in the past, became the second Bucky. Serving as members of the Invaders Captain America II and Bucky II battled the Japanese in the Pacific. The American public believed these new Captain America and Bucky to be the originals.

[May 7] Germany surrenders.

[Aug 6]The U.S. drops an atomic bomb on the Japanese city of Hiroshima. Two agents of Rā’s al Ghūl’s organization (which has been opposing the Japanese) are unfortunate enough to be undercover in Hiroshima. Their orphaned adolescent son descends into bitterness and anger, and adopts the name Qayin (DC).

[Aug 9] The U.S. drops another atomic bomb, this time on Nagasaki.

[Aug 14] Japan unconditionally surrenders, ending World War II.

edited 2nd Jun '14 10:02:39 PM by Sijo

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#21499: Jun 2nd 2014 at 10:01:13 PM

Because I'm not a dick, I'm going to let Strat decide how successful Majestic's dumb plan is.

My various fanfics.
God_of_Awesome Since: Jan, 2001
#21500: Jun 2nd 2014 at 10:01:24 PM

Okay, I wasn't paying attention to alternate reality shenanigans. How many pages ago did evil Thor appear?


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