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Stryker is the most plausible. However, how is he shilled by other characters? How does he have an unreasonable amount of focus?
Scorpion, yeah, no. It's funny how it tries to claim he was met with "almost universal scorn", but later goes on to describe that he's both got fans and that even haters think other characters are worse.
Bo' Rai Cho doesn't sound hated enough even for Base-Breaking Character. He might be, but the example doesn't provide a sufficient argument for that.
This was on Pearls Before Swine: Rat has a few shades of this. Though to be sure, Rat is..."liked", and to note, Pastis has stated that Rat is his evil alter-ego and he often lets Rat say things he wishes he could. So, a possibly Justified version.
Wording like "a few shades of this" implies that it is at best a weak example. The example even mentions that Rat is liked, albeit in a Love to Hate fashion. Cut.
Found this on * Outnumbered while Woobie Cleaning: Karen definitely comes across this way. Sorry, she can be horrible to anyone and everyone, and nearly everytime she is shown to be "right".
"Comes across this way" are Weasel Words and gives no indication of how she falls under the Character Focus requirement. Cut.
Scrolling through edit reasons led to me finding this on YMMV.Norm Of The North:
CreatorsPet.Comic Books has some non-examples of characters that weren't hated by the fans (Monica Rambeau), characters who can be this but aren't all the time (Doctor Doom), and characters who don't seem to fit all 4 criteria (Barry Allen). A couple other examples also seem to be written as new material was released (The Sentry, Carlie Cooper) or turn into creator-bashing.
Edited by lalalei2001 on May 2nd 2019 at 1:44:04 AM
Deleted this from YMMV.Shokugeki No Soma:
Erina is one of the most popular characters (she's a Base-Breaking Character at worst) so she isn't The Scrappy.
Edited by Zuxtron on Jul 28th 2019 at 9:44:48 AM
If it’s getting this much favortim due to it’s popularity with fans, I don’t think it has enough of a hatedom to count. Cut.
Edited by Ferot_Dreadnaught on Nov 6th 2019 at 3:21:42 AM
Besides that, it violates our policy on troping leaks (the only source that no previous starter save the Charmander line is in Sword and Shield is the leaked copies of the game itself).
While Charizard been getting a fair amount of backlash recently, it's probably a Base-Breaking Character at worst right now. And it can't even be labeled as a BBC due to the 6 month waiting period.
Edited by Karxrida on Nov 6th 2019 at 6:00:59 AM
Didn't we have a rule that species and races couldn't be listed as Scrappies? Wouldn't that rule apply to Creator's Pet as well?
Charizard doesn't qualify as a Creator's Pet because it fails to meet the "hated by the fans" requirement because Charizard still has a lot fans despite its overexposure, and is only a Base-Breaking Character at worst.
Well, Charizard still meets the criteria for base-breaking character from previous installments. It’s just made worse with this latest installment.
I was mainly doing some cleanup for the Teen Titans cartoon when I saw this in the comic section.
God that natter in the first entry.
Edited by PlasmaPower on Mar 15th 2020 at 9:44:58 AM
I believe that main character are exempt. And if this is depending on the writer like Punisher, are the consistently disliked enough to count? And Joker I'd say cut because if his overexposure is doe to popularity that's too popular.
That particular page is a mess.
Honestly, the thing that immediately jumps out at me about those is the weasel wording: "some have felt", "can slip into this"...
Main characters are exempt because of the Character Focus part of the definition. The main character having the most focus is perfectly normal. There also needs to be solid evidence they're hated by the vast majority of the fanbase. I doubt Mr. Punisher is, and the Joker most certainly has a buttload of fans.
No idea about how prominent those characters are in the works they're supposedly Creator's Pet, but yeah, too much natter. I also see nothing about Character Shilling.
Bringing up these examples:
I thought we'd wiped off all of the Doctor Who companions. They are main characters of the show; they cannot qualify for the Character Focus part of the trope by definition. The Character Shilling part I'll give you: they get that in spades, but it applies to pretty much all of them, plus all the Doctors. note (In my more cynical moments, I complain that half the dialog is the characters telling the audience how great they all are.) Moreover, every companion has a significant body of both fans and detractors, so cannot qualify for The Scrappy requirement.
Edited by Fighteer on May 12th 2020 at 11:49:55 AM
This Simpsons example... Is way too general.
Cut for being too general.
There's a South Park example that's been bothering me, but then I realized that it was the most recent addition to the page:
Despite saying a lot, it dosen't really explain anything. I don't remember the creators saying that he was their favorite, or that he was being shilled by other characters.
Edited by PlasmaPower on Jun 27th 2020 at 5:46:29 AM
When I was a South Park watcher, Randy was more of a Base-Breaking Character than The Scrappy, and I don't remember him getting much in the way of Character Shilling either.
Honestly, the entire Western Animation page needs to be looked at. A good bunch of these aren’t examples from just looking at them.
Edited by PlasmaPower on Jun 28th 2020 at 6:01:32 AM
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