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Due to (somewhat) recent changes to the source code and text parser, the hottip no longer works as it used to. Specifically, the text parser does not distinguish between the end of a pothole and the end of a hottip.

Therefore, I am creating this thread to clean up hottip markup in the wiki, and do one of the following:

  1. Remove the hottip and weave the explanation into the description.
  2. Replace the hottip with either the note or labelnote markup, as appropriate.

Syntax for a note markup is (for those who are unaware):

[[note]]-text to be revealed-[[/note]], which yields: note 

Syntax for a labelnote is: [[labelnote:-text to be displayed-]]-text to be revealed-[[/labelnote]], which yields:

-text to be displayed- 

edited 26th Oct '13 9:36:35 AM by Willbyr

KylerThatch literary masochist Since: Jan, 2001
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#101: Jul 29th 2013 at 8:12:37 PM

Hey, folks. I saw the announcement and noticed that my troper page was included among the pages that used a hottip. Unfortunately, I had a hard time trying to find the syntax for the new note/labelnote thing. (Admittedly part of this is just me being a spaz and somehow completely overlooking the section in Text-Formatting Rules.)

For the benefit of other people, could the announcement include a link to either Text-Formatting Rules or the first post of this thread, so they know what to do and how to do it? Thanks.

This "faculty lot" you speak of sounds like a place of great power...
Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#102: Jul 29th 2013 at 8:19:44 PM

[up] Notes and Labelnotes gives the instructions on how to make that change. I'll try to put that link in the announcement, but it may push it over the character limit.

EDIT: I had to run both links through a url compressor but I was able to get them in the announcement.

edited 29th Jul '13 8:33:00 PM by Willbyr

KylerThatch literary masochist Since: Jan, 2001
literary masochist
#103: Jul 29th 2013 at 8:39:04 PM

Huh, I didn't know that page existed. Thanks again!

This "faculty lot" you speak of sounds like a place of great power...
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#104: Jul 30th 2013 at 4:38:50 AM

A rundown:

  • Edit your troper page to replace [[hottip:*:TEXTBEHINDHOTTIP]] with [[note]]TEXTBEHINDHOTTIP[[/note]]
  • If you wish something else than "note", use [[labelnote:TEXTYOUWISHTOUSEINSTEAD]]TEXTBEHINDHOTTIP[[/labelnote]]
  • Then remove your troper page from Hottip Cleanup July 2013 Tropers.

Willbyr, I note that your headline does not specify to remove troper pages from the sandbox once they are clean. I've written a rundown in this post and tinyurled it: http://tiny.cc/db900w. You should probably replace the administrivia tinyurl with this one.

edited 30th Jul '13 4:40:50 AM by SeptimusHeap

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Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#105: Jul 30th 2013 at 6:11:25 AM

[up] Character limit, I had to sacrifice somewhere. I hope that people will actually pay attention to the notice at the top of the page, but I'll swap your link in shortly.

FastEddie Since: Apr, 2004
#106: Jul 30th 2013 at 9:56:48 AM

It may be simpler to allow editing on troper pages long enough to clear the hottips.

Goal: Clear, Concise and Witty
Rotpar Always 3:00am in the Filth from California (Unlucky Thirteen) Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
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#107: Jul 30th 2013 at 6:02:45 PM

If we can edit the hottips in other people's pages, I'll lend a hand.

Are we collecting a list of false positives? I glanced at the bottom and found nothing in the current page. It looks like it detected a hottip in the history that was removed last July.

edited 30th Jul '13 6:03:29 PM by Rotpar

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GlennMagusHarvey Since: Jan, 2001
#108: Jul 30th 2013 at 8:21:17 PM

Got here from the hottip news thingy. So tell me if I got this right:

  1. The hottip markup is being replaced by the note/labelnote markup.
  2. If I replace hottips with note/labelnote markup on my own troper page, I should remove it from that list.
  3. If I don't do the above, someone else is likely to do it.

I've now replaced the one hottip on my troper page with a labelnote, and removed my name from that Sandbox cleanup list page. Did I do it right?

edited 30th Jul '13 8:25:26 PM by GlennMagusHarvey

Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#109: Jul 30th 2013 at 9:05:09 PM

[up][up] I've been deleting false positives along with the pages that I actually clean. I'm not certain why they're being detected unless it's got something to do with the parameters of the list generator.

[up] Correct all around. [tup]

The Trivia page is done and cutlisted.

edited 30th Jul '13 9:09:50 PM by Willbyr

Beed28 Since: Dec, 2011
Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#111: Jul 31st 2013 at 8:54:27 AM

[up] Go for it. [tup] Make sure you take any pages you clean out of their respective lists.

The Roleplay and Sandbox pages have been completed in that list.

edited 31st Jul '13 8:54:57 AM by Willbyr

FastEddie Since: Apr, 2004
#112: Jul 31st 2013 at 9:04:48 AM

All Tropers/ pages may be edited by all for the next 24 hrs.

edited 31st Jul '13 9:04:54 AM by FastEddie

Goal: Clear, Concise and Witty
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#113: Jul 31st 2013 at 9:18:17 AM

I am taking A through C now there, using notes or labelnotes depending upon what the hottip shows.

Did that, except Buttercup Is Tiny as I am not clear what to replace it with, and Coolman 229 as there are too many.

edited 31st Jul '13 9:40:41 AM by SeptimusHeap

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Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#114: Jul 31st 2013 at 10:19:08 AM

[up] Those two people may have to redo their pages.

GlennMagusHarvey Since: Jan, 2001
#115: Jul 31st 2013 at 10:25:20 AM

Wait, people can't normally edit each others' troper pages anymore?

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#116: Jul 31st 2013 at 10:40:11 AM

Please read Ed's pink post.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#117: Jul 31st 2013 at 10:45:58 AM

OK, I also did D-H, except for daltar as his page is locked (I've messaged them) and Eldritch Blue Rose as there are many and colour code as well.

Did I-J, except for the colour-hottip salad that is Jack Mackerel

Going to pause now, a) for the news, b) the subsequent Walker, Texas Ranger and c) my neck is burning.

edited 31st Jul '13 10:59:21 AM by SeptimusHeap

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#118: Jul 31st 2013 at 10:50:32 AM

[up][up][up] Eddie turned off that ability after a series of malicious vandalisms a couple months back involving troper pages, including the staff's pages.

Pantheon/Roleplay/Sandbox is done and cutlisted.

edited 31st Jul '13 10:51:06 AM by Willbyr

PancticeSquadCutterback This is Rain. Isn't she pretty? :) from Georgia (the one the devil went to, not Russia) Since: Feb, 2012
This is Rain. Isn't she pretty? :)
#119: Jul 31st 2013 at 11:19:54 AM

I would like to participate. Too bad I'm edit suspended.

I'm not LGBT. I just think Rain's really cool. Apologies if my humor gets too painful.
GlennMagusHarvey Since: Jan, 2001
#120: Jul 31st 2013 at 11:21:41 AM

@ Septimus Heap: Ed's post was exactly why I asked. I don't venture much outside of a few threads I follow, and minor edits on pages, so I don't get news about changes to the wiki system.

@ Willbyr: Thanks for the explanation.

@ Pantice Squad Cutterback: I just reverted a couple edits you made; wanted to ask you about them. I'm gonna PM you.

edited 31st Jul '13 11:22:48 AM by GlennMagusHarvey

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#121: Jul 31st 2013 at 11:29:58 AM

Did also K-L, except for Kraken, Loid, Luthen due to too many/markup salad issues.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
GlennMagusHarvey Since: Jan, 2001
#122: Jul 31st 2013 at 12:31:48 PM

Oh Kraken? He hangs around IJBM's IRC channel, #ijbm on Espernet. I've left him a PM there; hopefully he'll get around to it.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#123: Jul 31st 2013 at 1:00:56 PM

Gonna continue after Criminal Minds is over. In the meantime, we'll need a way to deal with markup salad.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#124: Jul 31st 2013 at 1:51:11 PM

OK, I've continued with M, except for Muramasan 13 - I have no idea where the hottip ends in that markup salad.

N-R done as well.

S-Z too.

edited 31st Jul '13 3:09:29 PM by SeptimusHeap

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#125: Jul 31st 2013 at 3:42:05 PM

Septimus in beast mode, nice. [tup] I'll discuss those remaining pages with the staff.


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