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Due to (somewhat) recent changes to the source code and text parser, the hottip no longer works as it used to. Specifically, the text parser does not distinguish between the end of a pothole and the end of a hottip.

Therefore, I am creating this thread to clean up hottip markup in the wiki, and do one of the following:

  1. Remove the hottip and weave the explanation into the description.
  2. Replace the hottip with either the note or labelnote markup, as appropriate.

Syntax for a note markup is (for those who are unaware):

[[note]]-text to be revealed-[[/note]], which yields: note 

Syntax for a labelnote is: [[labelnote:-text to be displayed-]]-text to be revealed-[[/labelnote]], which yields:

-text to be displayed- 

edited 26th Oct '13 9:36:35 AM by Willbyr

Jul 11th 2013 at 2:17:10 PM

Since I had the time, and I was on those pages anyway, I've cleaned up all the hottips in the Bleach pages. Is there anywhere I should list the pages I cleaned?

If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it's just not worth reading.
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Jul 11th 2013 at 2:23:06 PM

Go to Hottip Cleanup, find the list on which the pages you cleaned are listed and delete the mention of the page you cleaned.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Jul 11th 2013 at 2:28:52 PM

I thought that might be the case, but I wanted to be certain before I started deleting anything. Thanks for the response.

If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it's just not worth reading.
MikuruFan from Away
Jul 11th 2013 at 7:53:04 PM

It seems like not enough people know about this. People still create new ones, and worse, are instructing new tropers how to use it.

Willbyr Hi Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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Jul 11th 2013 at 8:25:46 PM

I think the only way we're gonna get progress on that front is if Eddie just breaks the hottip function across the wiki.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Jul 11th 2013 at 11:38:59 PM

I also believe that. It has been pulled from Text Formatting, yes?

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Willbyr Hi Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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Jul 12th 2013 at 5:50:04 AM

[up] The relevant section specifically mentions that the hottip markup is outdated and even links the sandbox.

I'm also noticing that pages have been cleaned but not removed from the lists.

edited 12th Jul '13 6:19:48 AM by Willbyr

Jul 12th 2013 at 9:43:19 AM

Here's a refreshed usage list. May not feel like it, but progress is being made. You guys rock.

Goal: Clear, Concise and Witty
Willbyr Hi Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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Jul 12th 2013 at 7:38:54 PM

I'm going to make a new sandbox for the cleanup.

EDIT: Okay, this is going to take longer than I thought it would...gonna have to copy-paste from another source.

edited 12th Jul '13 8:02:48 PM by Willbyr

Willbyr Hi Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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Jul 12th 2013 at 11:10:22 PM

Here's the sandbox created from Eddie's list. I'll edit the link in Text Formatting Rules shortly. I will not have time to take out the dead spacing and fix the broken links for a few days, so please do them as you come across them and I'll work on them as I can

Sandbox.Hottip Cleanup July 2013 Update

edited 12th Jul '13 11:12:39 PM by Willbyr

Willbyr Hi Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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Jul 14th 2013 at 9:10:47 AM

The sub-sandboxes in the "specific namespaces" section have been cleaned up and are as ready for cleanup work as they can be.

EDIT: All non-Main sandboxes are ready to go.

edited 14th Jul '13 12:28:17 PM by Willbyr

Willbyr Hi Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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Jul 14th 2013 at 1:46:36 PM

Main pages from D through Z are good to go.

edited 14th Jul '13 6:53:08 PM by Willbyr

Willbyr Hi Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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Jul 14th 2013 at 8:30:37 PM

Alright, the sandbox is completely set up and ready to go.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Jul 16th 2013 at 5:34:22 AM

I have already cleaned some namespaces and cutlisted the relevant pages.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Willbyr Hi Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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Jul 22nd 2013 at 9:34:32 PM

The Creator list is done and cutlisted.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Jul 25th 2013 at 1:15:37 PM

Would it make sense to retire the current page Hottip and replace it with Notes And Label Notes already before we have cleaned all the hottips up?

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
DriftingSkies Grand Exhausted Poobah from The Space between nowhere and somewhere.
Grand Exhausted Poobah
Jul 25th 2013 at 1:18:33 PM

I think a large issue is that we have a hottip page in Administrivia but the Notes and Labelnotes page is still a sandbox page (after a full year+). It lends credence to the false belief that hottips are still sanctioned and should be used.

The sooner the hottip page is killed from Main.Administrivia and replaced with the sandbox page on the same, the better.

edited 25th Jul '13 1:18:45 PM by DriftingSkies

Beyond the beaten path lies the absolute end. It matters not who you are... Death awaits you. — Nyx
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Jul 25th 2013 at 1:20:42 PM

That was part of my logic. I also propose that we should turn Hottip into a Wiki Trope definition rather than cutlist, redirect or just archive.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Jul 25th 2013 at 1:41:43 PM

I'll redirect Hottip to a new Administrivia page for Administrivia.Notes And Lablenotes with the sandbox text.

edited 25th Jul '13 1:48:38 PM by FastEddie

Goal: Clear, Concise and Witty
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Jul 25th 2013 at 1:55:12 PM

Huh. Seems like there was a typo. Fixin' in progress.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Willbyr Hi Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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Jul 25th 2013 at 1:57:30 PM

Excellent move. One thing that should be noted on the new page is that if you have multiple notes with the same text in them, only one will display, regardless of which one you click on.

DriftingSkies Grand Exhausted Poobah from The Space between nowhere and somewhere.
Grand Exhausted Poobah
Jul 25th 2013 at 2:01:52 PM

It seems that the page was mistakenly made at Administrivia.Notes And Lablenotes instead of Administrivia.Notes And Labelnotes (Since the formatting is [[labelnote]], I'd say it would be wise to move it accordingly.

Beyond the beaten path lies the absolute end. It matters not who you are... Death awaits you. — Nyx
Jul 25th 2013 at 2:03:12 PM

Dang it. We hates typos, yes we does.

Goal: Clear, Concise and Witty
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Jul 25th 2013 at 2:03:50 PM

I already took care of the typo fix, except for the Administrivia wick that needs a moderator in the edit requests thread.

I agree with @71, by the way. What do we do with the hottip in the description of Notes and Labelnotes?

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
DriftingSkies Grand Exhausted Poobah from The Space between nowhere and somewhere.
Grand Exhausted Poobah
Jul 25th 2013 at 2:05:53 PM

I would leave it alone as the sole example until the cleanup project has finished so people have an example of what they look like so they know to eliminate them.

When this project is finished and all hottips are finally purged, we can eliminate that one and pretend they never existed.

Beyond the beaten path lies the absolute end. It matters not who you are... Death awaits you. — Nyx

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