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Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#51: Jun 18th 2012 at 7:43:23 PM

Speaking of early weirdness, Insano, I don't think frequent use of "Dude" is appropriate for this time period.

Insano Mad Pinoy from At my laptop, refusing to waste time Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
Mad Pinoy
#52: Jun 18th 2012 at 7:51:56 PM

Sorry, I'll get rid of that. What does someone call a guy when they don't know his name?

Also, Matthew not knowing Rudolph's name could be a nice running gag.

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Dblade26 The Grand Re-Vizier from Everywhere Since: Dec, 2011
The Grand Re-Vizier
#53: Jun 18th 2012 at 7:59:06 PM

I still think he should have parents in an absolutely bastard-y and elitist position even amongst humans, which might make his refusal to give out his name make a little more sense.

Having his father be the mayor/governor might be a little too much though.

edited 18th Jun '12 7:59:51 PM by Dblade26

rabbitRider The Sword of the Morning from Shurima Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Sword of the Morning
#54: Jun 18th 2012 at 8:06:13 PM

Maybe as racist factory owners or some other incredibly rich, and therefore incredibly risky, position for Rudolph. Maybe his parents are mine owners, railroad kings, or oil barons.

Your legacy shall drift away, blown into eternity, like the sands of the desert.
Dblade26 The Grand Re-Vizier from Everywhere Since: Dec, 2011
The Grand Re-Vizier
#55: Jun 18th 2012 at 8:21:05 PM

All good possibilities.

By the way, if they're under the heel of an Empire, are there also nobles?

Fauxlosophe Since: Aug, 2010
#56: Jun 18th 2012 at 8:54:20 PM

Um nit-pick but I think "Metahuman" doesn't necessarily jibe with the setting. I think it gets it's origin in Shadow Run where Elfs and Dragons and so on are literally mutated Humans as opposed to distinct species who evovled [or were created. I'm not nitpicking cosmology] separately. Linguistically, Meta would imply that they're either "Before Humanity" [And not in the sense of they were here first, that would be Pre] or "Improved Humans" [which Shadowrun uses]. I think it'd make more sense to use something like Non-Humans, Natives, Aboringals, First Nations would probably be preferable.

Also, "fantastic racism" which was used before definitely doesn't work in this setting since Elves and Dwarves aren't fantastic.

Just if we're nitpicking on terms.

edited 18th Jun '12 8:55:13 PM by Fauxlosophe

TailsDoll I have a plan. Since: Apr, 2012
I have a plan.
#57: Jun 18th 2012 at 9:26:30 PM

Yeah, I took the "metahuman" term from Shadowrun, another setting which had humans and elves and dwarves together in a modern setting. They weren't exactly mutants or anything sciencey though, they were all extinct races from antiquity that somehow came back to Earth after 2012, born from human parents. Neohumans isn't a bad term though. It implies that the elves and dwarves and such are "new" humans who have been integrated into human society.

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Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#58: Jun 18th 2012 at 9:29:49 PM

Non-humans or natives probably works best when referring to all of them.

TailsDoll I have a plan. Since: Apr, 2012
I have a plan.
#59: Jun 18th 2012 at 9:35:48 PM

I guess I'll handwave it by saying that Derrick uses human terms so he doesn't offend them specifically, with "metahumans" and "demihumans" being human words that are rather non-PC.

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Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#60: Jun 18th 2012 at 9:48:53 PM

No nobility, just a lot of exploiters.

History Lesson!

Once upon a time, there was a crescent shaped land called Laodicea. It was a land of varying climates and terrains filled with many different peoples. From the elves in their grant cities deep in the forests to the centaurs roaming the plains in large tribes. It was a simple place, the kings ruled, the peasants worked, the wizards did this or that. Kingdoms fought for glory or land. Swords and sorcery decided conflicts. But all in all, it wasn't that bad a place to live.

That changed when the humans arrived from across the ocean in the east. The lands across the sea lacked magic but had developed at a much faster rate. When they discovered Laodicea, they saw a wild and untamed land with resources to make them rich and powerful. It was also filled with many strange primitives which no one had ever seen before. Initially seeking peaceful terms with the natives, the human nations set up trading posts and limited their new colonial outposts to unused land. But rivalries between the humans, coupled with a general disdain for the primitive non-humans, led to them seeking as much land as possible before other nations seized it first. Unfair treaties, manipulation of native affairs, and outright wars of conquest led to the weaker and divided non-human nations losing their homes. The bows and swords proved no match to the rifle and machine gun. The magic shields and fireballs were overwhelmed by vehicles and artillery. Though some nations fought hard, there was no great climactic battle that sealed their fate, only a gradual loss of free lands. Eventually, the humans controlled almost all the land.

One such human nation is Unidos, which now controls most of the lower end of the continent, an area they named Saturn. Unidos took over many nations and peoples, and sought to impose their power on the fallen and ensure weakness by eradicating as much of the non-human cultures as possible. Most drastically, the attempt to eradicate magic, bringing the non-humans to a lower level then the technological advance conquerors. These days, almost no one can speak the language of their ancestors. The why life worked also changed greatly when Unidos brought industry to the continent. The fantasy world underwent an industrial revolution, with the people scrambling to catch up and survive.

Saturn is one of the human colonies, for Unidos brought their own people who sought new lives and possible fortunes to live there as well. The city of the same name on the east coast serves as the capital. Brian Cortez is the current governor. The military is in the midst of a campaign to take the mountains in the west from the last holdouts on Laodicea, the dragon nation of the Eversnow Mountains.

If you want or need more specific details, go right ahead as ask me so I can post the answer for everyone to see.

edited 18th Jun '12 9:49:50 PM by Parable

TailsDoll I have a plan. Since: Apr, 2012
I have a plan.
#61: Jun 18th 2012 at 9:56:07 PM

What's it like in the wilderness just outside Saturn City? Is it polluted or healthy? And just how many people live in Saturn City?

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Fauxlosophe Since: Aug, 2010
#62: Jun 18th 2012 at 9:59:10 PM

Whose territory is Saturn city build on? Did it used to be Dwarvish or Elfish or Centaurian?

rabbitRider The Sword of the Morning from Shurima Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Sword of the Morning
#63: Jun 18th 2012 at 10:08:17 PM

Dryad or Fae.

Your legacy shall drift away, blown into eternity, like the sands of the desert.
Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#64: Jun 18th 2012 at 10:12:47 PM

Tails Doll: Outside of the city is actually pretty rocky. The city itself located where the bluffs start sloping down to beaches. The city is actually overlooked by a fort on the bluff. The roads lead to other Unidos cities. Saturn City is the largest city in the colony with a population of 1,200,000. About 4/5 of that is non-humans.

Saturn City is built on what used to be part of two different dwarf kingdoms. The island where the minotaurs were originally from is also nearby.

rabbitRider The Sword of the Morning from Shurima Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Sword of the Morning
#65: Jun 18th 2012 at 10:28:24 PM

Unnamed Isle, Oh My Unnamed Isle: The Story of the Minotaur Diaspora.

Your legacy shall drift away, blown into eternity, like the sands of the desert.
Fauxlosophe Since: Aug, 2010
#66: Jun 18th 2012 at 10:33:15 PM

The Labryth To Freedom: A History of Minotaur Integration and Resistance.

edited 18th Jun '12 10:33:51 PM by Fauxlosophe

rabbitRider The Sword of the Morning from Shurima Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Sword of the Morning
#67: Jun 18th 2012 at 10:39:10 PM

Wherever Hooves Tread: The Story of the Centaurs and Minotaurs in Unidos

Your legacy shall drift away, blown into eternity, like the sands of the desert.
Dblade26 The Grand Re-Vizier from Everywhere Since: Dec, 2011
The Grand Re-Vizier
#68: Jun 19th 2012 at 8:37:23 AM

Strike The Earth!: A Study of Pre-Colonial Dwarven Architecture

Also, I think Rudolph's parents will be Steel magnates and Oil Barons, maybe with a bit of railroad thrown in for flavor.

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#69: Jun 19th 2012 at 2:42:21 PM

Now is a good time for Eruil to show what her immediate plans are and for the "small circle of people" to contribute ideas of their own before a timeskip to a few days later.

Seeing as there is no "How to Start a Revolution" guide, your characters are totally winging this.

Dblade26 The Grand Re-Vizier from Everywhere Since: Dec, 2011
The Grand Re-Vizier
#70: Jun 19th 2012 at 5:22:33 PM

Well, it sort of seems that Jones has organized the entire revolution by himself.

Well done there.smile

edited 19th Jun '12 5:22:56 PM by Dblade26

Fauxlosophe Since: Aug, 2010
#71: Jun 19th 2012 at 5:23:29 PM

[up]Indeed. I think he's the only one in the party with "Revolutionary" actually already on his resume. He's going to be useful for that much.

[up][up]There is. Jones simply hasn't published it yet.

edited 19th Jun '12 5:24:20 PM by Fauxlosophe

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#72: Jun 19th 2012 at 5:23:37 PM

May all 42 bar patrons be victorious or die trying.

Fauxlosophe Since: Aug, 2010
#73: Jun 19th 2012 at 5:25:21 PM

"They May Take Our Freedom But They Will Never Take Our Alcohol: A Primer on Revolution" by Illtyd "Brave Liver" Jones.

edited 19th Jun '12 5:27:25 PM by Fauxlosophe

Dblade26 The Grand Re-Vizier from Everywhere Since: Dec, 2011
The Grand Re-Vizier
#74: Jun 19th 2012 at 5:34:00 PM

It is a little confusing though, since the starting material specifically said that no colonies had ever tried to start a revolution before, yet some R Pers posts have mentioned revolts and uprisings as well as attempts at being revolutionaries...

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#75: Jun 19th 2012 at 5:39:36 PM

No successful rebellions have taken place. Faux's character is from a failed attempt.


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