TVTropes Now available in the app store!
Open

Follow TV Tropes

Following

Rob Liefeld

Go To

Jhimmibhob Since: Dec, 2010
#51: Jun 29th 2012 at 9:10:00 AM

[up]I am unable to refute a single word in this post.

BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#52: Jun 29th 2012 at 8:37:52 PM

[up]Word.

Do not obey in advance.
RJSavoy Reymmã from Edinburgh Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Reymmã
#53: Jun 30th 2012 at 9:29:52 AM

"Stupid" and "awesome" need not be mutually exclusive, especially in superhero comics. There's a sort of Crosses the Line Twice effect here; something obviously implausible stops being a problem if the author understands that it is and goes all the way with it.

My own grudge with "heroes fire a load of guns towards the viewer" is that I would like to see what effect that firing is having.

A blog that gets updated on a geological timescale.
DrFurball Since: Jan, 2001
#54: Jul 1st 2012 at 10:34:51 AM

I have one major problem with that article.
I had problems with every single point made in the article. The biggest one being about Fin Fang Foom. He's not drawn with the purple shorts much nowadays, and the image he used to illustrate his shorts was from Nextwave, which had him wearing the shorts just so the characters could make fun of how silly the idea is.

BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#55: Jul 1st 2012 at 7:36:36 PM

I have a problem with the whole "poo face" thing, and how it used a classic Todd McFarlane cover featuring the Hulk and Wolverine as an example. As in, why is it a problem? Why can't badasses be shown straining themselves without it being considered Narm?

And here I wondered why other people are wondering if Cracked is running out of ideas for articles...

On a happier note, here's a drawing of Liefeld's that I actually like, even though her waist is admittedly very skinny. I like her costume and the colorist's work on it, although that probably didn't have much of Liefeld's input.

edited 1st Jul '12 7:38:02 PM by BearyScary

Do not obey in advance.
JAF1970 Jonah Falcon from New York Since: Jan, 2001
Jonah Falcon
#56: Jul 3rd 2012 at 10:05:12 PM

The Cracked article doesn't seem to overtly state that that Superman/dead Supergirl pose on Crisis was one of the most influential covers that everyone now apes if they're not doing an homage.

Jonah Falcon
Tanrage Since: Jul, 2010
#57: Jul 4th 2012 at 12:01:17 AM

[up] It also completely ignores the fact that it fact that the Pietà pose(which is the proper name for it) predates comes by centuries, hell one of Michelangelo's most famous works is commonly known as simply as the Pietà. For that matter two of Marvel's famous covers use the same pose and predate COIE by a couple [1] and here [2] . Now DC for it's part scarily presaged SG's fate and that cover two years previously as can be easily seen here [3]

edited 4th Jul '12 5:00:57 AM by Tanrage

BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#58: Jul 4th 2012 at 1:00:27 AM

Tanrage: You could try enclosing the links in brackets like this: [[link]]

Don't forget to put a space between the link and a phrase in the brackets, or it'll look all jumbled up.

edited 4th Jul '12 1:02:59 AM by BearyScary

Do not obey in advance.
JAF1970 Jonah Falcon from New York Since: Jan, 2001
Jonah Falcon
#59: Jul 6th 2012 at 7:20:28 PM

It's not a Pieta pose. Superman is standing up and bawling. He's not sitting, cradling Supergirl like a newborn with a sad smile.

Jonah Falcon
NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#60: Jul 6th 2012 at 7:21:42 PM

Details. Details. The core concept is still the same.

Tanrage Since: Jul, 2010
#61: Jul 7th 2012 at 3:35:42 AM

[up][up] The Pietà pose is used over and over again in Renaissance sculpture. the most famous example being Michelangelo's, where Mary is depicted as seated as was the by far the most common rendering, but there were exceptions, even back then:[1]

edited 7th Jul '12 5:59:55 PM by Tanrage

BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#62: Jul 24th 2012 at 9:04:52 PM

I would argue that Liefeld has improved over the years, just not as much as he should have. His women have improved a lot over the years (although he still draws them with very rounded hips and thighs); just compare his latest drawings to the weird drawings he did of Avengelyne where her torso looked like a depleted Capri Sun pouch (heh, pouches). He's also improved drawing Cable a lot. When he started, Cable looked more like a pudgy old guy; now, he looks more like a Cool Old Guy.

edited 24th Jul '12 9:06:57 PM by BearyScary

Do not obey in advance.
JAF1970 Jonah Falcon from New York Since: Jan, 2001
Jonah Falcon
#63: Aug 9th 2012 at 3:05:26 PM

The reason he looks old is because Liefeld is addicted to putting 2000 lines on faces.

Art 101: You want to make someone look young? No lines. You want to make someone look old? Lots of lines.

Jonah Falcon
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#64: Aug 11th 2012 at 2:11:51 AM

[up]I follow a similar belief... but when I presented it to someone on a deviantart chatroom, they said it wasn't necessarily true, because they claimed to have just done a drawing of a young guy with a ton of lines on his face.

Do not obey in advance.
RJSavoy Reymmã from Edinburgh Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Reymmã
#65: Aug 11th 2012 at 11:40:36 AM

Age is very much relative, even in fairly realistic art styles. It depends on how many lines the readers expect. If you draw a fair amount of cross-hatching on everyone to give relief to their faces, age becomes more a matter of specifically drawing wrinkles and showing the skin sagging a bit. (However, everyone will look more "rugged" than with a neater art style.) Buck Danny and some parts of The Sandman are good examples.

A blog that gets updated on a geological timescale.
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#66: Aug 16th 2012 at 9:13:33 PM

Someone on Tumblr was claiming that Liefeld is proud of never having taken an art lesson.

Do not obey in advance.
NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#67: Aug 16th 2012 at 9:20:37 PM

He'd have reasons to regret if he had taken them and still drew this way.

Robbery Since: Jul, 2012
#68: Aug 16th 2012 at 9:41:09 PM

Frank Cho never took art lessons either, but he studied art a whole helluva lot...methinks Liefeld could benefit from a bit more study...

BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#69: Aug 16th 2012 at 10:05:30 PM

@ Napoleon: Rawr. waii

Frank Cho is a much better artist than a lot of the other artists that like drawing teh alleged sexy.

edited 16th Aug '12 10:08:56 PM by BearyScary

Do not obey in advance.
Tiamatty X-Men X-Pert from Now on Twitter Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: Brony
#70: Aug 16th 2012 at 11:29:36 PM

Considering how many people aped his style for a few years there, I think Liefeld might actually be kinda justified in his pride.

X-Men X-Pert, my blog where I talk about X-Men comics.
Jhimmibhob Since: Dec, 2010
#71: Aug 17th 2012 at 8:30:34 AM

Maybe he's just being a nice guy and trying to shield his old art teacher's reputation.

C0mraid from Here and there Since: Aug, 2010
#72: Aug 17th 2012 at 9:34:02 AM

It's fairly common for comic book artists not to have teachers.

Am I a good man or a bad man?
cfive Since: Jan, 2001
#73: Aug 22nd 2012 at 3:52:51 PM

So, apparantly Liefeld made this character called "Smash".

Totally not the Infraggable Krunk. Or that one green guy, what was his name? Bulk? Sulk?

Tiamatty X-Men X-Pert from Now on Twitter Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: Brony

Total posts: 118
Top