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The initial OP posted below covers it well enough: the premise of this thread is that men's issues exist. Don't bother posting if you don't believe there is such a thing.
Here's hoping this isn't considered too redundant. I've noticed that our existing threads about sexism tend to get bogged down in Oppression Olympics or else wildly derailed, so I thought I'd make a thread specifically to talk about discrimination issues that disproportionately affect men.
No Oppression Olympics here, okay? No saying "But that's not important because women suffer X which is worse!" And no discussing these issues purely in terms of how much better women have it. Okay? If the discussion cannot meaningfully proceed without making a comparison to male and female treatment, that's fine, but on the whole I want this thread to be about how men are harmed by society and how we can fix it. Issues like:
- The male-only draft (in countries that have one)
- Circumcision
- Cavalier attitudes toward men's pain and sickness, AKA "Walk it off!"
- The Success Myth, which defines a man's desirability by his material success. Also The Myth of Men Not Being Hot, which denies that men can be sexually attractive as male beings.
- Sexual abuse of men.
- Family law.
- General attitudes that men are dangerous or untrustworthy.
I could go on making the list, but I think you get the idea.
Despite what you might have heard about feminists not caring about men, it's not true. I care about men. Patriarchy sucks for them as much as it sucks for women, in a lot of ways. So I'm putting my keyboard where my mouth is and making a thread for us to all care about men.
Also? If you're male and think of something as a men's issue, by golly that makes it a men's issue fit for inclusion in this thread. I might disagree with you as to the solution, but as a woman I'm not going to tell you you have no right to be concerned about it. No "womansplaining" here.
Edited by nombretomado on Dec 15th 2019 at 5:19:34 AM
In the UK:
- Fathers have up to 2 weeks paid paternity leave, and more if shared with the mother;
- Mothers have up to 52 weeks (26 weeks each of different types) paid maternity leave, two weeks of which are mandatory.
edited 30th Jan '16 7:12:24 AM by Greenmantle
Keep Rolling OnIt appeared that the global trend is to not giving fathers equal days of leaves for their babies compared to the mothers.
I find it very hypocritical because men are expected to take good care of women and children instead of solely being the breadwinner yet they are denied of doing such a thing when a child is born.
As a side note isn't this actually harmful to the baby itself in the sense that the baby has imbalanced exposure to the parents in its very early life?
edited 30th Jan '16 7:28:42 AM by murazrai
Parental leave here in Sweden is 480 days (~16 months) total. Each parent have 90 days earmarked, which can't be transferred (unless it's a single parent). Not entirely sure on the pay, but I think most of that is a significant portion of the normal paycheck (maybe 80% or something), and some of it is at a flat rate.
Check out my fanfiction!Well, I do remember that my parents pretty much stopped caring for attempting to make up for things over the weekend once I was old enough for kindergarten. Although that probably was due more to their personalities than anything.
I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiotI was watching an asian show, when this happened:
There was UST between Female Character and Male Character #1.
Out of nowhere, Male Character #2 walks up to Male Character #1.
Male Character #2: Male Character #1! If you want Female Character, take off your shirt.
Female Character: I'll do it instead.
Male Character #1: No, leave it to me.
Male Character #1 removes his shirt.
UST resumes. Male Character #1 is treated as sexy. No sign of the show knowing anything's wrong.
Meanwhile, in real life:
Me: Did you see that? The man taking off his shirt?
Man: Yea.
Me: What if this situation was gender-flipped? One woman telling another woman, 'If you want this man, take off your shirt'?
Man: The other woman should say 'Who are you? Why should I do what you tell me to do?'
Me: Now, apply that to the scene you saw just now on TV-
Man: But he's a man! It's alright for men!
Talk about a Double Standard. The Female Character offering to take off her shirt for the Male Character #1 makes thing even more confusing.
edited 5th Feb '16 6:49:21 AM by hellomoto
I think that without context, and maybe with, it's pretty much a wtf? moment for what the third wheel says.
I also find it kinda amusing that their actions pretty much say, "We like each other. Let's hook up."
Check out my fanfiction!Indeed. Even in context, Male Character #2 just came out of nowhere, and appeared purely for this scene. All that context helped with was to establish UST between Female Character and Male Character #1.
By the way, Female Character and Male Character #1 became girlfriend/boyfriend right after that scene.
edited 5th Feb '16 10:30:13 PM by hellomoto
I don't even see that. They seemed to like each other enough to cover for each other by uncovering themselves, without their individual attractiveness factoring into that.
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Here it's apparently 54 working days, and maternity leave is 105 working days.
Edit. Awkward page topper is awkward.
edited 30th Jan '16 7:03:05 AM by Paradisesnake