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This thread's for talking about the Marvel Comics line, whether the comics are decades old or brand new.

As well as the superhero tales of the Marvel Universe, that also includes all the other things Marvel's done (Epic Comics, Icon Comics, Star Comics and all the rest), as well as the older stories by Atlas and Timely, the companies that later became Marvel.

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A thread for all the miscellaneous Marvel discussion that doesn't have its own thread.

So apparently, they're making a Black Panther movie. Let's hope Hudlin is kept as far away as possible. On a related note, anyone think that the whole 'Super Hero that is also a King/Ruler' is kind of ridiculous? I mean where do heroes like Aquaman and T'Challa find the time to both lead a nation and go gallavanting on the other side of the globe?

Edited by Mrph1 on Sep 1st 2024 at 8:36:28 PM

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#54026: Apr 2nd 2022 at 4:48:45 AM

She was called something else back in 2015 and had different writers attached

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#54027: Apr 2nd 2022 at 7:14:39 AM

Twenty fifteen? Gosh, seven years her concept has sat on the back burner.

Akirakan Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#54028: Apr 2nd 2022 at 7:23:53 AM

[up][up] She was originally going to be named Fallon Grey, and the original team were going to be Tim Seeley and Logan Faerber, with Afua Richardson later replacing Faerber.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#54029: Apr 2nd 2022 at 10:24:16 AM

So, I was checking out both the page for the original Contest Of Champions and the original Secret Wars and something confuses me.

Contest of Champions came out in 1982, and Secret Wars in 1984, and yet the latter is considered the first Crisis Crossover.

How does that work exactly?

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Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#54030: Apr 2nd 2022 at 11:06:39 AM

[up]×2

I felt bad for Tim Seeley, he seemed excited for the book.

shanejayell Since: Jun, 2011
#54031: Apr 2nd 2022 at 1:37:28 PM

Contest of Champions was self contained, Secret Wars actually impacted various monthly books. So TECHNICALLY Co C wasn't really a 'crisis crossover.'

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#54032: Apr 2nd 2022 at 6:55:34 PM

Finally finished Ewing's Guardians of the Galaxy on unlimited.

Good stuff, sorry it ended, but it felt like he would rather have been writing an X-Men book by the end. He kept setting up things in Guardians and then having them immediately resolved in SWORD.

An assassination kicked off a new Snarkwar? No problem, SWORD will assasinate more people until the succession crisis is over.

The Skrull/Kree merger and attack of Knull tanked the economy of ALL OF SPACE? No big. Krakoa found a new metal that has saved the economy.

There's another huge space war that looks like an all hands on deck crisis? No, only SWORD.

Edited by Bocaj on Apr 2nd 2022 at 9:57:30 AM

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ClancyGardener life is a state of mind from 53 miles west of Venus Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
#54033: Apr 2nd 2022 at 7:41:35 PM

Is Ewing a fan of/good friends with Hickman?

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#54034: Apr 2nd 2022 at 7:51:01 PM

I don't know but he was writing SWORD too

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#54035: Apr 2nd 2022 at 7:54:04 PM

They do have a similar thing for high-concept sci-fi stories

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Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
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#54036: Apr 3rd 2022 at 10:27:36 AM

Ewing always seems more interested in character, though. Hickman seems to focus on the big idea and often squashes the characters into whatever role they need to be to drive that plot.

chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#54037: Apr 3rd 2022 at 11:37:58 AM

Hey, I was wondering if I could get some clarification about something, and I figured this would be the best page to ask.

On the Timeline page for the Marvel Universe, it discusses the Creation of the Marvel universe and cites an issue of Silver Surfer for covering it.

  • Creation Of The Universe — A previous universe collapses into a “cosmic egg” that later explodes, creating the current universe. This is apparently a cyclic event, overseen by Cosmic Beings. There are actually two confirmed Big Bangs. The first was caused by a civil war amongst the Celestials, creating the second reality and the first Mutliverse. The second was caused by a collision between a ship of the sixth reality and a celestial object. This created the seventh reality: The current Marvel Universe. Established in Silver Surfer (2010) #7 and ''Ultimates 2" (2017) #6.

However, from what I can gather, the 2010 run of Silver Surfer never reached seven issues, as it only ran for five. Now, the 2014 run did run for that long, but I'm not sure if that's the issue it's referring to.

Any Silver Surfer fans want to clarify which issue it's referring to?

Tiamatty X-Men X-Pert from Now on Twitter Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: Brony
#54038: Apr 3rd 2022 at 5:06:27 PM

"I felt bad for Tim Seeley, he seemed excited for the book." Seeley did step down from the book of his own accord. I don't recall there actually being any controversy over the book itself, no one was objecting to Seeley writing a comic about Blade's daughter. There was controversy over a lack of Black writers in general, and Seeley felt that, as a white dude writing a comic about a Black girl, he wasn't exactly being part of the solution. No one was pressuring him to step down from the book, he just realized he agreed with the larger argument that was being made at the time.

All that said, Danny Lore, fuck yeah, congrats to them. They're really good, and I'm glad Marvel's giving them work. Marvel is certainly doing a lot better today, in regards to Black writers, than they were in 2015. Meanwhile, Seeley does still seem to be doing pretty OK for himself.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#54039: Apr 4th 2022 at 3:59:04 PM

So a discussion on teh MCU thread about putting The U-Foes up agains the FF got me thinking (asking) if the former group have ever fought the latter group.

Seems like a battle that would happen at some point.

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TheEvilDrBolty Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
#54040: Apr 4th 2022 at 5:29:43 PM

[up] If it hasn't, it's probably because the U-Foes don't really do anything that the Red Ghost and his super-apes don't. ...which says something about the U-Foes. (For the record: I like the U-Foes, and in fact like them better than Red Ghost, but I have a hard time thinking of a U-Foes story that wouldn't go just as smoothly with the more traditional FF nemesis.)

I feel relatively confident saying that if it's happened, it wasn't til the 10's.

Edited by TheEvilDrBolty on Apr 4th 2022 at 8:30:29 AM

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#54041: Apr 4th 2022 at 7:57:57 PM

The U-Foes usually just get knocked around by the Hulk.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#54042: Apr 4th 2022 at 8:06:30 PM

Or Spider-Man recently

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#54043: Apr 4th 2022 at 8:07:07 PM

Spidey is to villains what Doom is to heroes.

He fights every body at some point.

Edited by HandsomeRob on Apr 4th 2022 at 8:09:18 AM

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#54044: Apr 4th 2022 at 8:11:53 PM

Amusingly it was Ben Reily this time.

He was testing his new Beyond suit with all the new gadgets to give them a total curb-stomp.

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Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#54045: Apr 4th 2022 at 8:18:30 PM

It felt like they were nerfed considering their showing in Immortal Hulk.

Edited by Cortez on Apr 4th 2022 at 2:59:27 PM

Dracoblade Since: May, 2009
#54046: Apr 4th 2022 at 9:08:12 PM

One of the results of living in a shared universe, I suppose; the U-Foes got their powers by deliberately flying into the same cosmic rays that created the Fantastic Four, and yet they're not FF villains.

Edited by Dracoblade on Apr 4th 2022 at 9:11:36 AM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#54047: Apr 4th 2022 at 9:20:44 PM

There was a foursome introduced in Untold Tales of Spider-Man that were also pretty much 'evil fantastic four'

They were called the Spacemen. They actually got their power from a meteor they stole but claimed they got their powers the same way as the Fantastic Four.

Like clockwork, they tricked New York and JJJ into thinking that they were the Real Heroes and that Spider-Man was a threatmenace. Like clockwork, Spider-Man exposed their crimes and made Jonah look like an idiot for endorsing them.

They were fun. Shame that they didn't appear again.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#54048: Apr 4th 2022 at 9:23:06 PM

The U-Foes are like guys like Electro.

Immense power but stupid and short-sided as Hell so they are cursed to be forever nothing more than small time crooks.

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lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#54049: Apr 4th 2022 at 9:50:38 PM

Didn't the U-Foes kill Spider-Man fairly recently, or was that a different Spidey?

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#54050: Apr 4th 2022 at 9:53:55 PM

They exploded Peter and put him in a coma but he didn't die of it as far as I know.

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