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A thread for all the miscellaneous Marvel discussion that doesn't have its own thread.

So apparently, they're making a Black Panther movie. Let's hope Hudlin is kept as far away as possible. On a related note, anyone think that the whole 'Super Hero that is also a King/Ruler' is kind of ridiculous? I mean where do heroes like Aquaman and T'Challa find the time to both lead a nation and go gallavanting on the other side of the globe?

Edited by Mrph1 on Sep 1st 2024 at 8:36:28 PM

TheEvilDrBolty Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
#53701: Feb 24th 2022 at 11:18:38 AM

[up][up][up][up][up] I feel like [Jonah becoming more Alex Jones-y is] less not knowing what to do with Jonah as a newspaperman, and more getting back to the character's roots. The early Ditko issues emphasized Jonah not just as a newspaper editor, but as a major media mogul who owned multiple outlets (such as Now Magazine, which went by the wayside after like six issues). The entire Ditko run also would portray Jonah's effect on the populace with a bit of nuance, where a lot of people realized he was blowing hot air, but there were just enough people who bought into his tirades to make a difference in the public discourse. Hell, Spencer Smythe started out as a humble, kind-hearted Concerned Citizen who simply took Jonah at his word.

Connecting Jonah to media outlets who are received the way his articles were in the original story, and who have the kind of wealth and success that Jonah had to begin with, is a modernization that hits on what was there originally.

EDITED so that this is more readable as a page-topper.

Edited by TheEvilDrBolty on Feb 24th 2022 at 2:19:37 PM

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#53702: Feb 24th 2022 at 12:34:11 PM

Al Ewing is helming the Ant-Man anniversary story.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#53703: Feb 24th 2022 at 12:49:40 PM

I was indifferent until I heard it was him

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Aleistar Since: Feb, 2018 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#53705: Feb 24th 2022 at 1:15:03 PM

Man I feel bad for Hank.

He's like still dead and hasn't even met his daughter yet.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Whowho Since: May, 2012
#53706: Feb 24th 2022 at 1:27:35 PM

Hmmm, I usually pick up everything Al writes, but I'm not sure if a mini series appeals to me.

Aleistar Since: Feb, 2018 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
#53707: Feb 24th 2022 at 1:34:18 PM

Did you pick up his and Rodriguez' Defenders? That was really good.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#53708: Feb 24th 2022 at 1:42:52 PM

I read the first three issues on unlimited recently. It is very good and Galactus’ mom has got it going on.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#53709: Feb 24th 2022 at 5:19:52 PM

Huh thanks to a recent convo, I now want an Ant-Man and Wasp series starring Hank, Janet, and Nadia working together and going on science adventures as a family.

That be fun.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#53710: Feb 24th 2022 at 6:04:36 PM

Preferably without any hint of Hank and Janet getting together. They can hang out together as friends and colleagues and parents of sorts for Nadia, but they should never be romantic partners again. They just don't mesh.

Disgusted, but not surprised
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#53711: Feb 24th 2022 at 6:06:13 PM

Remind me was Hank and Tigra a thing during Avengers Academy or was it platonic?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#53712: Feb 24th 2022 at 6:08:43 PM

They were together. Though not now since he's part of Ultron.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#53713: Feb 24th 2022 at 6:56:40 PM

Agreed. I believe at best, they were friends with benefits at one point, but Janet made it clear she'd never get back together with Hank.

Frankly, the fact they are even still friends is miracle enough. I'm sure on some level Hank knows that as well.

One Strip! One Strip!
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#53714: Feb 24th 2022 at 6:59:02 PM

Their relationship was pretty mutually abusive.

Hell of a storm of issues which makes it rather amusing that Janet adopted Hank's daughter.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#53715: Feb 24th 2022 at 7:20:24 PM

....I don't know enough to know how it was...

...oh right. Marrying him when he was having a nervous breakdown while in the Yellowjacket guise and didn't remember he was Hank Pym.

Ok, never mind.

One Strip! One Strip!
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#53716: Feb 24th 2022 at 7:23:45 PM

I still find it darkly hilarious that him hitting Janet is the part he couldn't live down even though he did worse on that same day.

Building a Killer Robot to attack my friends so I could gain cred by saving them from it (and then flubbing the save)? Water under the bridge.

Hitting my wife? Unforgivable!

Granted, this is almost certainly because the former is just more comicbook shenanigans, while the latter is a bit too real.

Disgusted, but not surprised
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#53717: Feb 24th 2022 at 7:29:38 PM

I honestly think reality can damage comics and the ability to suspend your disbelief.

Like, in some cases it can enhance it, but they always go for the worst way to insert realism into comics....if that makes sense.

While at the same time undermining their premise with their real problems bullshit.

One Strip! One Strip!
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#53718: Feb 24th 2022 at 7:31:10 PM

Should also be noted that Peter once stuck his wife and Reed has emotionally abused Sue.

Yet neither got the shit rep that Hank has.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#53719: Feb 24th 2022 at 7:34:27 PM

I’m still surprised that the bits around the hit are actually worse in a way nobody really talks about

But yeah in one of the post Busiek pre Bendis runs, Janet and Hank get busy and freaky with their powers in Las Vegas but in the same story Janet says she doesn’t think they can ever be in a serious relationship again. Which makes Hank sad but that’s how it is, Hank.

Hank himself thought they shouldn’t be together again after the Trial of Yellowjacket ended. So time makes fools of him all.

Weirdly in the Busiek run, they were looking like they would get back together. But Busiek’s run was retro in that way.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#53720: Feb 24th 2022 at 7:41:34 PM

It's also ironic that Hank hooked up with Tigra since Tigra was rather critical of Hank when she joined the Avengers and thought Janet could do better than him.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#53721: Feb 24th 2022 at 7:47:25 PM

There's a reason for it but the reason is bad and gross.

When Tigra and Hank were on the West Coast Avengers together, she was super incredibly horny because of cat soul and jumped his bones.

For some reason, that eventually, with time and distance, became a healthy relationship in the Avengers Academy days. And also with Hank Skrull, I guess.

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Aleistar Since: Feb, 2018 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
#53722: Feb 24th 2022 at 7:51:55 PM

Is the Skrull Hank baby still around?

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#53723: Feb 24th 2022 at 8:06:23 PM

William? Yeah, he's still around. He and Nadia get along fine as siblings.

Disgusted, but not surprised
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#53724: Feb 24th 2022 at 8:07:30 PM

It's crazy to think Hank and Nadia still havn't met yet.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Tiamatty X-Men X-Pert from Now on Twitter Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: Brony
#53725: Feb 24th 2022 at 10:40:52 PM

[up][up][up][up] Englehart, man. His books always had weird shit regarding female sexuality. But his handling of Tigra in WCA was particularly gross.

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