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This thread's for talking about the Marvel Comics line, whether the comics are decades old or brand new.

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A thread for all the miscellaneous Marvel discussion that doesn't have its own thread.

So apparently, they're making a Black Panther movie. Let's hope Hudlin is kept as far away as possible. On a related note, anyone think that the whole 'Super Hero that is also a King/Ruler' is kind of ridiculous? I mean where do heroes like Aquaman and T'Challa find the time to both lead a nation and go gallavanting on the other side of the globe?

Edited by Mrph1 on Sep 1st 2024 at 8:36:28 PM

ClancyGardener life is a state of mind from 53 miles west of Venus Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
#53576: Feb 12th 2022 at 7:46:04 PM

That Brian Reed run also had Carol cheap shot Rogue while in the middle of a fight against an evil alternate universe version of Carol.

Don't you mean a more evil alternate universe Carol? tongue

Edited by ClancyGardener on Feb 12th 2022 at 7:46:40 AM

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Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#53577: Feb 12th 2022 at 8:36:39 PM

It was a Carol from a universe where she was still Warbird and she never got over what Rogue did to her so she went around the multiverse killing Rogues.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#53578: Feb 12th 2022 at 8:49:21 PM

There's something amusing about the dissonance of Carol being treated a beloved hero despite having the strong tendency to be written as a violent asshole.

I mean Tony is also a douchebag but at least his douchbaggery is acknowledged in-universe with him being pretty disliked by a lot of heroes for his personality.

Like Tony being an asshole is a serious part of his character but Carol's assholery is more a bizarre writing faux paus she get's saddled with similar to how over at DC Wonder Woman gets written as being the angry and violent one by some writers.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
#53579: Feb 12th 2022 at 9:35:26 PM

Carol's latest run (which is really good and easily cleared her past low bar of success) basically establishes her as the kind of person who gives one warning, and that's usually it.

Killing is not her first option, but it's generally her third. Unless she san sacrifice her own life, in which case it's fourth.

She ran through the full gamut when she fought Star, actually.

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#53580: Feb 12th 2022 at 9:56:53 PM

Kelly Thompson's Carol is far nicer than Reed's Carol.

Sircray Since: Apr, 2018
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#53582: Feb 13th 2022 at 2:00:49 AM

What about the Skrull thing where she watched him die of asphyxiation in space and enjoyed it?

Crappy writing from an even comic.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#53583: Feb 13th 2022 at 2:04:08 AM

I always think of Carol as being a workaholic. She can be personable, and enjoys being nice in her personal life, but she'll never prioritise that when there's work to do.

Hense the cold blooded killing.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#53584: Feb 13th 2022 at 2:06:13 AM

I'm also reminded that Avengers Assemble portrayed her as a provocative hothead who constantly buts heads and is incredibly confrontational with other heroes so this issue isn't distinct to the comics.

Oddly enough she was a perfectly civil and nice individual during Earth's Mightiest Heroes. Its weird looking back.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
Whowho Since: May, 2012
#53587: Feb 13th 2022 at 3:54:59 PM

So I recently read the Gwenpool Strikes Back mini series, and I liked the emotional beets at the end and the showing off of her powers, but felt the premis didn't justify itself?

Gwenpool's argument is that her powerset just doesn't work when she appears in other people's books or team books because it can't be displayed from other characters point of view,

and I just don't buy that?

In universe her powers look like she can teliport through time and space by traversing a white void pocket universe she calls the gutters, and that's actually pretty standard.

So I imagine if she is given a mutant power to explain her premis in universe it'll just be "dimensional travel".

I do like that weird acknowledgement that if you're a fan of an obscure character, that if you don't buy their comic books you might contribute to them ceasing to exist.

shanejayell Since: Jun, 2011
#53588: Feb 13th 2022 at 4:28:24 PM

Heck, She Hulk did that in the John Byrne era. It's not THAT wacky.

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#53589: Feb 13th 2022 at 7:28:15 PM

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Here the Doctor Strange video embedded.

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We did see that her powers don't quite work when she's in a team book.

Edited by Cortez on Feb 13th 2022 at 11:59:27 AM

Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#53590: Feb 14th 2022 at 6:30:10 AM

So I recently read the Gwenpool Strikes Back mini series, and I liked the emotional beets at the end and the showing off of her powers, but felt the premis didn't justify itself?

Gwenpool's argument is that her powerset just doesn't work when she appears in other people's books or team books because it can't be displayed from other characters point of view,

and I just don't buy that?

Think of it like this, in her own book she's like a cosmic level reality warper. When other writers started having her make guess appearances she was wildly written out of character and basically just boiled down to "teenaged Deadpool." So a combination of that and the fact that she was going through an existential crisis because she knew that since her last book was canceled off, unless her next one succeeded she was paranoid that she'd be shipped off to limbo or killed off for real.

Even the mutant retcon was kind of meta in a way since the Krakoa X-Men are Marvel's current Cash-Cow Franchise and the mutants currently can't be killed off for real.

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#53591: Feb 14th 2022 at 7:36:36 AM

At the end of the year, we're getting a...holocaust?

Um...

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#53592: Feb 14th 2022 at 8:16:22 AM

That's just the clickbait title Bleedingcool used.

The Breevort's actual quote is about how Avengers and Avengers Forever will intertwine storywise.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#53593: Feb 14th 2022 at 8:38:42 AM

Which seems obvious since they’re currently both working the same meta plot

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#53594: Feb 14th 2022 at 6:00:22 PM

So I've been thinking.

Take a power stealing villain, any power stealing villain, and give two them abilities from any two heroes. Which two heroes would you choose?

Why am I asking?

Because with the right two abilities can be really dangerous.

Me, I'd got with All of Spiderman's powers, and Quicksilver's speed.

That's Super-Speed to move faster than a lot of guys can react, and a Spider-Sense to cover any surprise attacks.

Those two powers alone would make a dude pretty much untouchable. But also consider that you'd also have Peter's agility, as well as his strength. That means that you'd probably be able to run a little faster than Pietro, simply because adding in Peter's extra strength and durability would allow a person to push their Super-Speed even harder than usual.

That's my choice. What about you guys?

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#53595: Feb 14th 2022 at 7:12:31 PM

Take the powers of Juggernaut and Charles Xavier and put them together. You get a physical and mental powerhouse.

This actually was Cyttorak's original plan until he realized Cain Marko's personality was a better fit for the Juggernaut.

Another simple combo would be combining Cyclops and Wolverine's power-sets. They would offset each other's weaknesses perfectly.

Actually, Wolverine's Healing Factor alone would complement damn near any other power-set nicely. Especially those that come with a Power Degeneration downside since it would offset that weakness.

Edited by M84 on Feb 14th 2022 at 11:16:54 PM

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ClancyGardener life is a state of mind from 53 miles west of Venus Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
#53596: Feb 14th 2022 at 8:01:37 PM

Take the powers of the Hulk and Radioactive Man. The Hulk's incalculable strength and immortality are pretty strong already, but RM's versatile nuclear powers give an extra edge in many respects — RM can emit energy from across the electromagnetic spectrum, including ionizing radiation, light, heat, and EM pulses, which offers more ranged attacks than the Hulk is normally capable of.

But mainly, I want to combine the powersets of two of Marvel's greenest, most radioactive characters and make something even more radioactive and green.

(On a side note, Radioactive Man has never been classified as a gamma mutate, right? IIRC, his origin has him expose himself to increasingly higher doses of nuclear radiation, immunizing himself to the effects before giving himself a final, ordinarily lethal, superpower-inducing dose. But even though he's a radioactive superhuman with bright green skin, I don't think he's ever been linked with gamma radiation specifically.)

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#53597: Feb 14th 2022 at 8:04:26 PM

Another power-set that fits with any other power-set would be Nightcrawler's (or any teleporter really). There is no power-set that could not be made better by adding the ability to instantly be somewhere else.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#53598: Feb 14th 2022 at 8:05:04 PM

Pretty sure if you combine Iceman and Human Torch you'd get Shouto Todoroki all grown up. tongue

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#53599: Feb 14th 2022 at 8:06:29 PM

If a Power Copying villain learned about the Resurrection Protocol on Krakoa they could go for that — target all of the Five so they could resurrect the dead on their own.

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PizzaDog11 Pizza is my business from closer than you think Since: Mar, 2018 Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
Pizza is my business
#53600: Feb 14th 2022 at 8:19:10 PM

I wonder if Mimic’s realised he could just start his own hatchery


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