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they're making a Black Panther movie. Let's hope Hudlin is kept as far away as possible. On a related note, anyone think that the whole 'Super Hero that is also a King/Ruler' is kind of ridiculous? I mean where do heroes like Aquaman and T'Challa find the time to both lead a nation and go gallavanting on the other side of the globe?
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You can blame that on James Gunn having no interest in using Nova in the Guardians of the Galaxy movies.
Nova - either Richard Rider or Sam Alexander - could probably be introduced at any point now. New Xandar's been rebuilding, they want to ensure what happened to them doesn't happen to other worlds so they put together a peace-keeping force using people from various species, a human ends up being one of the ones chosen. If they go with Rider, blind chance brings him into contact with a member of the Nova Corps, with Rider helping to stop a dangerous alien criminal and being rewarded with induction into the Corps. If they go with Alexander, then his dad was a Xandarian who was sent to Earth on a routine surveillance mission, he married a human woman, and then years later was called back to Xandar when rumours rose of Thanos being on the move.
Personally, I might be inclined to go with the Sam Alexander route, myself.
X-Men X-Pert, my blog where I talk about X-Men comics.Well, maybe that will change once the third movie is done.
We've heard Gunn say (and it was recently confirmed) that this movie will be the end of the Guardians as we've known them.
Plus, there's some time between the events of the first movie (with the second movie happening a few months later as I understand it) and Infinity War where Thanos just rofl stomps them off screen, and then another five years afterwards. They could have it said that after Ronan's attack, the Nova Corp tried to create more powerful weapons and were developing the helmets, but Thanos got to them for the stone before they could make enough, and it was lost for years.
Then maybe, it somehow finds its way to earth where a certain Richard Ryder finds it....
One Strip! One Strip!They could. Though some might prefer Rich alone.
I don't know where Sam is popularity wise, but even as part of the Champions, wasn't it a thing that he was kinda still a bit of an outsider.
One Strip! One Strip!We’ll prolly get Richard Nova.
He does have all the stories and character relevance while Sam is more of a Jeph Loeb character whose since been demoted from prominence anyway.
Even Richard is confirmed to exist and is a major figure of importance in the recent Guardians game.
Edited by slimcoder on Jan 31st 2022 at 12:06:31 PM
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."Plus, if the movies go with Richard as Nova, then they have a built-in lazy joke where someone looks at him and says, “Your name is Dick Rider?”
Makes me wonder if we’d ever see the New Warriors in a movie. Part of me thinks that Night Thrasher’s whole skateboard shtick would be too 90s to translate to live-action.
The very best, like no one ever was. Check out my Spider-Man fanfic here! [1]The Jeph Loeb thing probably hurts him a bit.
Without someone else to really get into his character and put in some effort, he'll probably never amount too much.
I'm talking about Sam to be clear. Sure, he's got the Champions, but as I (and ![]()
) have already said, he's not really amounting too much.
Just making a character is the first step. Once their creator is done with them, you need someone willing to add a new perspective, to commit to them. Without that, no one can endure.
Being viewed as a pet character, or a new writer no caring enough to try (resulting in subsequent writers also just ignoring them) has been the death of many a character (sometimes literally as a certain Blonde from Spiderman can tell you).
Not if you handle it the way they did in the recent Contest of Champions (which brought Night Thrasher back) did: everyone keeps trying to dunk on him for his ridiculous gimmick, only for him to show that he knows what he's doing, is effective anyway, and he doesn't care how he looks.
To quote the man himself: "I don't care if it's stupid. It works"
Edited by HandsomeRob on Jan 31st 2022 at 12:17:20 PM
One Strip! One Strip!It doesn't, plenty of other writers have written him after Loeb with no issue.
That's not what he said. He said he was more of a team guy now.
Even the suggestion of him showing up with Richard is done with done with him as Richard's protege in mind.
Edited by Cortez on Jan 31st 2022 at 4:28:24 PM
There is no reason to actually use Sam unless you choose to just composite him with Richard, ala front loading all of Rich’s stories and importance to cosmic Marvel onto him.
But hey it’s not like it’s a great tragedy or anything. There are plenty of characters not particularly popular or relevant, Sam being among them isn’t some great sadness.
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."The handwave necesssry in the comics to get Sam Alexander as Nova when the Nova Corp had been wiped out again again also means he doesn’t have very strong connections to the Nova Corp
When the Nova Corp started coming back, Richard Rider had those connections and could be used as a cosmic hero with connections to the guardians and to Nova and to other space stuff
Sam never really built up a similar web of connections. He basically has the Champions and that’s it because as a Champion he also thinks that the Avengers are too old to Get It anymore
It kind of leaves him in a situation that now that Richard is back from collapsing universe limbo, why use Sam over him?
Forever liveblogging the AvengersHe has also been in other teams besides the Champions.
Richard sticks to space and Sam is the Nova on earth. I don't get the issue.
Edited by Cortez on Jan 31st 2022 at 4:54:41 PM
Sam Alexander might not be a particularly major character, but let's be real, outside the comics, neither is Richard Rider. There's no particular reason for Marvel Studios to choose either over the other, if they do decide to bring in Nova. They both have their advantages and disadvantages.
Nova, as a concept, suffers somewhat from being a straight-up Green Lantern knock-off. A human who gets an alien weapon that gives him great power, and which obligates him to join a cosmic police force? He's Green Lantern. The thing is, it gets even worse with Rider, because he's chosen pretty much randomly. He was just some dumbass teen with absolutely no connection to the Nova Corps, or to the alien who chose him as successor, or to frigging anything. If Rider is the MCU Nova, they'll justify him getting the power by making him a cop or (more likely) soldier to begin with. And at that point, he starts to become a lot less interesting, and a lot more generic.
With Sam Alexander, he has a personal connection to the Corps already. You can let him still be a dumbass teen who really is not ready for the power and authority. Even better, you can make him outright sceptical of the authority. You can add the wrinkle of him not actually wanting to be a cop or a soldier, maybe even having an outright resentment for authority figures. He's Latino; he's got reasons for not trusting cops. That creates a conflict that just does not exist in superhero movies right now. (Plus, it's not like the MCU is swimming in Latine superheroes. We're getting America Chavez, and on TV we're getting a Latin Moon Knight. Pretty slim pickings.)
So like I said, while either one can be adapted, I maintain that Sam Alexander would be the more interesting choice, especially since an MCU version of Richard Rider would almost certainly be a soldier.
X-Men X-Pert, my blog where I talk about X-Men comics.Like I said you could just composite them.
Rich has got all the great stories, the rep, and the relationships (which granted might not matter in the case of Gamora and Star Lord depending on how Guardians 3 ends).
Sam is the kid whose mostly known for being on the kid team (plus being a total unlikable asshole on the Ultimate Spider-Man show).
So its possible they could just merge the 2 like saying Rich Latino.
Edited by slimcoder on Jan 31st 2022 at 12:50:31 PM
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."So he might not even get those relationships.
The MCU is a different continuity anyway, we've see characters have different relationships to the ones they had in the comics. So that seems moot.
Edited by Cortez on Jan 31st 2022 at 5:04:32 AM
They have more incentive to use him in particular though because of his association with a very well-received series of stories during Dn A's tenure on Cosmic Marvel.
Its why the Guardians line-up in the movies is who they are, because they were all characters majorly involved in those stories.
Hell as said before the Guardians game actually has him as an important figure in the game's lore that is directly lifted from his role in the Annihilation story.
Sam meanwhile just doesn't have as strong working ground as Rich does. Its like in Green Lantern where Simon Baz is the least used Lantern because he has the least working ground compared to the rest of the human Lanterns.
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."If they hadn’t already done one sided rivalry with Thor it could have been interesting for Richard Rider to show up as also a guy from Earth
And he’s dashing and all and kind of a trash fire
Edited by Bocaj on Jan 31st 2022 at 4:24:17 AM
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